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United Becomes Airbus's Biggest Client  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 13544 times:

United Airlines becomes Airbus' biggest client
By Mark Odell in London
Published: March 2 2001 12:27GMT | Last Updated: March 2 2001 12:35GMT


Airbus said on Friday that United Airlines of the US had placed a follow-up order for 15 of its A320 family aircraft, making it the European aircraft maker's largest single customer.

The order, worth around $840m at list prices before any discounts, is for eight 150-seater A320s and seven 124-seater A319s, a derivative of the same aircraft.

United, the world's largest airline, already operates a fleet of 103 A320s and A319s, which it operates mainly on its US domestic network.

The latest deal means the Chicago-based airline has now ordered a total of 192 Airbus aircraft, more than any other carrier.



Out of UAL's 600+ fleet (1000+ after the merger), 192 is not a very large number anyway. And I am pretty sure that UAL will stick to an ALL BOEING fleet for aircraft larger or equal size to a B 757.

I doubt they would go for more Airbus Aircraft for some time, after all the B 727s have retired.

What do you guys think?  Smile



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39659 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3996 times:

When will any US Airline buy an A340?

I'd love to see a Northwest or American Airlines A340!  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

Sounds pretty cool. Are they ordering those to replace 727's or 737-200's?


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39659 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

Sorry I jumped to conclisions! Embarrassment

I thaught it was United States was biggest client!


Sorry!



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User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4775 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

United obviously must love the A320 series if they are making follow-on orders. And now with the upcoming acquisition of US Airways, they will have a fleet of A330-300 that fit nicely between the 767 and 777. Don't forget that US Airways has lots of A321, A320 and A319 with many more coming, so the total is much higher than 192 out of 1000. That is why the merger makes sense...the narrowbody fleet will be common.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them keep the 330s. Heck, they might even order more.


User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3860 times:

Currently, all Airbuses are replacing just the 727-200s...NOT THE 732s. What we will proably see with the 732 routes is just some equipment shifting to 733s/735s, as more A319s become avalible.



User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

They will be used to replace the B 727s.

For the B 737-200s, they will NOT be leaving for at least 3 to 5 years. They have just gone through heavy maintenance. Besides, there is no replacement for the B 737-200s.

 Smile


User currently offlineBoeing747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3837 times:

United is going to get rid of the A330s. They don't want them. They will take the A320s. There is no way on this earth they would order A330s. They are ordering more and more Boeings larger than the A320. United seems to be very satisfied with their A320 fleet, AND the rest of the fleet, which consists of all Boeing aircraft. United will not order and Airbus planes larger than the A320 series.

User currently offlineBaec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

American is dealing with Boeing, but no Airbus Aircraft will be in American fleet, not even in around 50 years !!

Baec777  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4775 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3807 times:

United is going to get rid of the A330s

This is very widely speculated around this board. However, do you have any actual source from UA that confirms this?


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4775 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3795 times:

but no Airbus Aircraft will be in American fleet, not even in around 50 years

Sorry, bud. Ever heard of the 35 A300-600 that are in the fleet of AA?  Wink/being sarcastic


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User currently offlineFlying lsd From Belgium, joined Feb 2001, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3763 times:

With the merger with US airways the number 'll be higher

US airways ordered some years ago 400 A 320 family!

126 orders,and approximatily 150 options and the rest LOI


User currently offlineBelugaBoy From Belgium, joined Mar 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3750 times:


Another topic were you proove how you just take your hopes and dreams for the reality.

Never 1 Airbus in the American fleet while they have already 35 ...

They are going to get rid of the A330 without any source to proove it ...

In another toopic you shouted that Lufthansa would NOT buy the A380, now it turns out that they are close to the biggest order yet ( 10+15 ) !

This is just anti-Airbus talk , the reality is that United IS the biggest Airbus customer and will probably stay for some time ( after the merger they have even more Airbus planes and a lot of options ) The fact that they place follow-up orders prooves that they are very satisfied with there Airbus planes.

So why get rid of there A330's while they have a lot of older planes that need replacement before the A330's ?




User currently offlineBos-cdg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3732 times:


A lot of errors and confusion in the previous mails...

UAL never ordered any A330s. Northwest did.

UAL is the biggest US Airbus operator, followed by US Air and Northwest. Worldwide Lufthansa is the biggest. Followed by Air France. However UAL has more Airbus
orders than Lufthansa (192 vs 175).

AA ordered 35 A300 but do they still operate them all ????

E.


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8027 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3724 times:

Have UAL announced they're going to get rid of the A330? Is this official or just anti-Airbus nonsense?

Can't believe people are still talking about UAL getting 737NGs!



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User currently offlinePtica2000 From Slovenia, joined Nov 2000, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

That is very good news, but I miss A330 orders!

User currently offlineVarig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1583 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

hi
I don't know if AA fly all A300 they ordered,but when you go to MIA you still see quite a number of them around....which the first time I went to MIA surprised me since people talk about AA as an "all american" airline

oh by the way,where are the guys yelling that all airbus customers are nothing but subsidized by the EU to buy the buses????  Wink/being sarcastic



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User currently offlineN628AU From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Don't forget that US has 9 A330 now, with 1 more deferred to 2003, and 20 on option. 30 airplanes is substantial. The only official line from United is that they have not yet been able to evaluate the economics of the A330 to make a decision about it's future SHOULD the merger occur.

The options that US holds can be converted to either -200 series or the A340 should the airline deem they are required.


User currently offlineTheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3655 times:

My two cents...$
1) past week United adds to Airbus fleet with fear that merger with USAirways will not be approved
2) merger not approved
3) USAirways can't get its costs under control...and files for protection...TWA No. 2
4) Airbus 330s sold on world market

See, United Airlines will not fly A330s...there's your proof.



User currently offlinePecoua From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3622 times:

Being a UA flight attendant, I can tell ya that I won't shed a tear when we retire the last 727. No movie, small overhead bins and just a tired workhorse. The more Airbuses the better. The aisles are wider and the passengers are much more comfortable...and all are video equipped as well. That's important on long flights, especially now that we offer free audio and movies on all flights over 3hrs..except on the 727 and 737-300/500 which are audio equipped only. 737-200 are the only fleet member that do not offer any kind of entertainment...hopefully they will be replaced with the A319s soon.

User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3601 times:

Those are all replacement aircraft, not growth aircraft.

United will probably get the A330, but not expand the fleet of them. There is a REASON they CHOSE the 777 over the A330... DUH!


User currently offlineQantasA3XX From Singapore, joined Dec 2000, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

If i am United Airlines , i consider the A330s to replace some of the Boeing767s ... the B767s are quite old right ?

 Smile


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8889 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

The A330 is to big to replace a 767-200. Honestly, I think UA will pull a BA...have A32X doing the short-medium haul, the 733 and 735 have plenty of life in them still, and use 757 for high-density short haul or low density transcon, and 747, 767, and 777 for TransAtlantic and TransPacific routes.

Jeff


User currently offlineArt at ISP From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

For what it's worth, the A330 makes a little sense for UA as a replacement for the 767-222 fleet used on the transcon market. Those airplanes are beat up and worn, and the Airbus in UA seating configuration (I would assume they would have less Envoy and another row of first) would hold around 250 passengers. This would add capacity and also enable UA to cut back on frequency if the economy dictates.

I am sure the 330's were made available at fire sale prices so you might just see them hang around for the transcons. Just my 2 cents worth.



User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (13 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

Seems that nobody in US wants to see an A330 in United colors. I don't understand this bashing for Airbus products, is it because it's european? I am reading a lot and I've never seen any kind of official statement that US airways A330s will be for sale..so why does these guys like 'Boeing 747-400' always state that 'United will get rid of A330, they don't want them'...?! Ridiculous, I don't understand.
Same thing with the A380. As a real aviation enthousiast I am always happy to see a new aircraft, whatever it's european or american. Why does this A380 gets so much bashing in the States? Is it because it's not a Boeing? Com'on guys, grow up.



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25 Cba : The A330 makes little sense for UA. It is too big to replace their 762's and 763's, which don't need replacing yet anyway. Why are we talking about re
26 BA : Now, don't forget, United was considering ordering some A330s to replace there aging DC-10s on there Hawaiian routes. I haven't heard anything for abo
27 Boeing747-400 : United really has no plans to keep/order the A330s. Just like AA said they wont take the A318s from TWA. I have heard this many times on these forums,
28 Boeing747-400 : OO-AOG, Ok,friends of mine working for UAL have said it. I may have heard FLY777UAL say it, and it will not do any good in the UAL fleet! A few A330s
29 Widebody : I dunno much about UAL's widebody fleet, but I take it from the above they operate 747, 777, 767 and DC-10......with narrowbosies, commonality exists
30 Widebody : That should read..... "I don't see why there isn't a possibility that UAL may introduce the A330......", not "may not"....
31 Early Air : That is not a whole lot. I like the A320 though with UA. However they will only stick with the small planes. The rest will be Boeing. I think this is
32 King767 : >> For mega-carriers like UA, commonality between short-haul aircraft, and long-haul aircraft is not a big thing. Anyway, introducing yet another cock
33 Boeing747-400 : I agree 300%. Introducing a new Airbus cockpit to a HUGE fleet of Boeings does complicate things a lot. It would cost the airline more money to get ne
34 RayChuang : I think UA will sell the A330-300's back to either Airbus or a large leasing company such as CIT, GECAS or ILFC. The reason is simple: they're too exp
35 Post contains images United Airline : UAL will not be keeping the A 330 I suppose. Why? Coz it is too expensive just to keep 7 of them. Besides, the A 330 is not compatible with the B 777.
36 Boeing747-400 : I do think UAL is interested in an A330-type size plane, so, expect some more orders for the 767-400, it is way more omcpatible with the current fleet
37 Post contains images United Airline : UAL is interested in the B 767-400ER. The A 330 is far too expensive to operate comparing with the B 767-400ER.
38 Post contains images United Airline : UAL is interested in the B 767-400ER. The A 330 is far too expensive to operate comparing with the B 767-400ER.
39 DatamanA340 : I don't think UA would maintain 330s, but as Cedarjet stated, there is no proof about. Maybe it takes even a year for any determination. On the other
40 Boeing747-400 : The reasons mentioned abve are simple on why the 767-400 is better for United. The 767-400 would be better in UAL's fleet for these reasons: 1.) Compl
41 An-225 : Let's just wait and see...
42 N628AU : UnitedAirline.... Just FYI, it is 9 A-330, with 1 more due in 2003, and 20 on option. Not 7. Croupier.... With all the mistakes US made in it's past (
43 Joona : I fully agrae with you. I like both Airbus and Boeing. Both companies have their goods and bads. Both companies make good and bad aircraft, there simp
44 TEDSKI : My thought is that United will keep the inherited US Airways A330-300s which are powered by same P&W 4000 series engines like the rest of their wide-b
45 KALB : You can't prove the future. You have rendered an opinion based on your assessment of UA's future needs. Facts and past events .are the only things tha
46 747-451 : United loves the A320 family and they are excellent aircraft. I do think they will dump the A330's since it isn't worth the costs as Boeing747-400 sta
47 Post contains images Ampropilot2b : I really think United will be looking to simplify their fleet soon, whether the US deal goes through or not. While having just a few planes that don't
48 Boeing747-400 : I think United will go for the 747X Stretch for the same reasons I mentioned above, just comparing with A380. United knows that adding a huge Airbus a
49 Tupolev154B2 : Well the A380 will have better operating economics, but then again we don't know yet since look at what happened to the MD-11. Boeing747-400, I'm pret
50 Boeing747-400 : No I wasn't, I was thinking that they would go for the A320 because it offered the best technology and economics. I bet they would have gone for the 7
51 KALB : One of the factors that probably influenced Boeing to choose the A320 family over waiting for what became the 737NG was less than good relationships w
52 KALB : OOPS! I meant United not Boeing.
53 MAC_Veteran : KALB The original UAL A320 order of 1992 had many factors behind it, engine choice was not one of those prominent though if you factor in the SUX acci
54 MAC_Veteran : If anyone here believes UAL wont order Airbus products other than A320's, then I've got a large bridge for sale. This "urban myth" style mentality tha
55 CPDC10-30 : No matter if you are Airbus or Boeing fan or neither...consider the facts. The A330-300 is an almost-brand new aircraft that would be acquired by UAL
56 CPDC10-30 : United knows that adding a huge Airbus aircraft would cost SO much more than adding a huge Boeing aircaft. Now how does this explain Qantas (previous
57 MAC_Veteran : ....And then you have to factor in the issues of payload and range restrictions the 767-400 have been rumored to have (-if true-) then factor in the t
58 Widebody : I have to agree with CPDC10-30, what costs would UAL incur with the A380 that they wouldn't incur with the 747X Stretch? Don't give me your anti-Airbu
59 MAC_Veteran : Widebody, If UAL received an excellent discount on the A380 (which is a common thing Airbus is doing) combined with the mass scale economics the airpl
60 CPDC10-30 : I stated my opinions!!!! I thought the 747X Stretch would be better... Fine, thats your view. But you didn't back it up with anything and it was appr
61 Boeing747-400 : "The A330-300 is an almost-brand new aircraft" You must be mistken for the 764. ????? No, my reasons about 747X Stretch and United were not shot down!
62 CPDC10-30 : What I meant is that the A330-300s in US possession are ALMOST NEW. Not the design itself. Now maybe my point would make more sense to you. I'm still
63 Boeing747-400 : I get your view now. Now for the 747X Stretch and A380, here ya go: The reasons mentioned below are simple on why the 747X Stretch is better for Unite
64 CPDC10-30 : Thank you. I respect your opinion much more when it is backed up.
65 Boeing747-400 : Thank you. I did make a mistake, the range of 747X Stretch is 7, 800 N. M.
66 Boeing747-400 : But, in one of my posts, I stated this: "I think United will go for the 747X Stretch for the same reasons I mentioned above, just comparing with A380.
67 Post contains images RayChuang : I don't think UA will buy the 767-400ER, the more I think about it. They'd rather buy a lot more 777-200's. Right now, UA, NW, JL, KE and CA are the a
68 Sushka : Thanks for the article. I think Lufthansa is second.
69 Widebody : Firstly, never have I posted anti-Boeing, nor will I ever...... Secondly, as for your 747XStretch/A380 arguments, don't you think many of them could a
70 Boeing747-400 : Those airlines did not have near as many large Boeing aircraft as United does, they also operated large amounts of big Airbus's too. So, many of my re
71 KALB : MAC_Veteran. I got word from a UA A320/19 first officer that a reason UA's Airbus fleet has IAE engines rather than CFM is because of the fall out wit
72 Ampropilot2b : Well for what it's worth, Capt. Al Haynes was at my school giving a speech about UA 232 a while back, and he said that he, his crew and the airline, d
73 King767 : "....And then you have to factor in the issues of payload and range restrictions the 767-400 have been rumored to have (-if true-) then factor in the
74 MAC_Veteran : KING 767 The payload restrictions and "underpowerd-ness" of the 767-400 are reportedly by pilots at Delta, especially their HNL service. What sort of
75 MAC_Veteran : KALB Personally, I think there could have been a part to play in this, but sincerely, I feel overall it was more a business decision (meaning better f
76 Widebody : Boeing747-400, ....."Besides, since those airlines did order the A380, what makes you think everyone else is going to?..." Never have I said any airli
77 MAC_Veteran : Widebody It's quite evident that Boeing747-400 is -wishing and hoping- that other airlines wont order the A380. That's the root issue at heart here. T
78 Boeing747-400 : Widebody, I don't think no one is going to order it. I never said that. MAC_Veteran, I am actually supplying reasons on why the 747X Stretch is better
79 Juul : Boeing 747-400: You like Airbus...? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! You kil
80 Widebody : Boeing 747-400, I know you didn't say that everyone wasn't going to order it, I never said that everybody was going to order it.......you get my point
81 Boeing747-400 : What makes you think I don't like them? Just because I like Boeing better? Just because I think the 747X Stretch is better for United? You are obvious
82 Boeing747-400 : Widebody, I meant the design was very old, not the A380 itself. So when people say the 747X isn't new because of the design of the basic 747, look at
83 Widebody : You meant the design was old? And what do you define as the design? The shape?
84 Boeing747-400 : The double-decker design of an airliner! Like the 747, only with an upper dec that goes all the way. Like the NLA, which was designed before the A380.
85 Post contains images Juul : What makes me think you don't like Airbus? Oh I don't know, just about every post from you on these forums... Maybe the fact that every time someone c
86 Widebody : I think you just proved my above point......what in the name of God does the shape an airliner have to do with its design? When people say the 747 is
87 Juul : Boeing 747-400, Can you think of another way to cram 5-600 people into a plane, without going outside the 80 x 80 m. box? In a conventional aircraft,
88 Boeing747-400 : Juul, Just about every post I make is not against Airbus, you think, just because I like Boeing so much more than Airbus, than I must hate Airbus. WRO
89 TEDSKI : United will keep the A330-300s inherited from US Airways because these P&W 4000 series engines have more thrust (68,000lbs) in the A330 models vs. the
90 Widebody : Boeing747-400, You are now talking through your arse....."But some people think the 747X is not a new design, well, it is newer than the A380. The tec
91 Boeing747-400 : What do you know?!?! I have explained it many times, the stucture of the 747X is newer, there is no plane designed like it. Therefore, the A380 struct
92 Widebody : Boeing747-400, I'll try to make this as clear as possible for you......firstly, I agree with Boeing on the 747X Stretch, it would be stupid of them to
93 Eg777er : Oh come on! The last 10 posts have made me piss myself! So, OK, according to Boeing747-400s logic, the original designer of the 777-200 wunderplane wa
94 MAC_Veteran : Boeing 747-400 " MAC_Veteran, I am actually supplying reasons on why the 747X Stretch is better for United. I'm not saying any Anti-Airbus shit, like
95 DeltaSFO : The payload restrictions and "underpowerd-ness" of the 767-400 are reportedly by pilots at Delta, especially their HNL service. MAC... nice to see you
96 Widebody : Must say I agree with MAC on the Boeing decisions of late......what is the story, what is their future VLA plan? We've heard of 747-500/600, NLA's, 74
97 Post contains images United Airline : Boeing747-400: I have explained it many times, the stucture of the 747X is newer, there is no plane designed like it. Therefore, the A380 structural d
98 Post contains images CPDC10-30 : You are right. In fact, the design of the A 380 is evolved from the A 340-300. I have seen other designs like the A 380 as well. They are also evolve
99 Post contains images BA : I HIGHLY doubt that United will go for the 747X. If no other airline is showing interest for them, why would United? Also, United was a long partner i
100 RayChuang : If UA buys the A380-800, they may not buy the initial version. They may be more interested in the A380-800R higher-weight version that can carry more
101 Crosswind : Innovations on the A380; - Full CCQ with the A318/319/320/321/332/333/342/343/345/346 - New FMS Interface - point and click and pull-out keyboard - On
102 Post contains images BA : You have no idea what you're talking about. LOL! I laugh everytime I read that statement. I don't know why, but it just sounds funny.
103 MAC_Veteran : My sources have been PPrune's website with regards to payload and range discrepancies. I weigh the comments there with a great deal of salt but are qu
104 MAC_Veteran : Widebody That's my only gripe with Boeing, their long term and short term vision is just "out there". They've been all over the place, as the Wall Str
105 Boeing747-400 : The reasons mentioned below are simple on why the 747X Stretch is better for United. The 747X Stretch would be better in UAL's fleet for these reasons
106 Post contains images United Airline : You have no idea what you're talking about. Oh yeah? I have said what I wanted to say.
107 MAC_Veteran : Widebody, One thing I forgot to add in more complete terms.. Boeing's tactic of discredit in recent years (especially re: the A380) seems to be borne
108 Gt1 : This is quite a set of posts. I have couple of thoughts if you will: Unless I have missed it, nobody has mentioned that overnight, UA will take over t
109 Ganymed : Just kinda funny to see the airline that started it's life as 'Boeing Air Transport'now is becoming the biggest Airbus-customer,but you see: C'est la
110 Post contains links MAC_Veteran : Further to my comment about Boeing's space operations taking a much bigger role at the company, today's LA Times posted this facinating story on a hug
111 Coronado : I predict UAL's status as largest single Airbus operator will be short lived. Higher fuel prices are forcing NWA to replacing its 176 strong DC-9 10/3
112 RayChuang : Coronado, Actually, NW has to seriously look at replacing their DC-9 fleet anyway not only for fuel burn reasons, but also the sheer old age of the DC
113 Coronado : No disagreement, Ray. I still think there will be some more A320' s added because NWA still uses its D-9 50 on some rather long, rather well trafficke
114 DeltaSFO : MAC_Veteran... As I'm sure you are aware, ATL-HNL currently stops in LAX because corporate can't agree with the pilots on rest facilities for the 767-
115 Post contains images United Airline : The B 767-400ER is an ideal replacement for UAL's B 767-200s. I think UAL will go for some in the future.
116 Widebody : Boeing747-400, I realise I'm flogging a dead horse here, but your stubbornness in the face of all the facts that are being thrown your way still amaze
117 RayChuang : Coronado, Actually, I think NW's decision whether to buy the A318 depends on how well the A318 test program comes out and whether it meets Airbus' per
118 Crosswind : Most of the A380 info came from a very good article in Flight International a cople of months ago, plus bits of info that you pick up as you go along.
119 TEDSKI : If United has an emotional attachment to P&W then forget about them going for the GE90 777-200LR & 300ER. They will go for the 747X models with P&W 40
120 Boeing747-400 : Widebody, I am saying that Boeing has not released that much info on the 747X and 747X Stretch. I was saying that they are probably taking the right m
121 CPDC10-30 : The B 767-400ER is an ideal replacement for UAL's B 767-200s I have heard this comment many times on the forum and it makes me laugh harder each time
122 Boeing747-400 : I think United Airline is entitled to his own view, no need to personally critisize him and laugh at him. I think that United is looking for an A330/B
123 Widebody : Stop taking this as a personal argument Boeing747-400, the 747X/Stretch will be as up-to-date as the A380, no doubt about that...Airbus problem is tha
124 Post contains images Boeing747-400 : Now I agree with you. I'm glad we were able to resolve this. B744
125 King767 : Topic: RE: MAC_Veteran Username: MAC_Veteran Posted 03-18-01 21:07 and read 283 times. KING 767 "The payload restrictions and "underpowerd-ness" of th
126 Boeing747-400 : I couldn't agree with you more! MAC's bashing of the 767 is starting to annoy me a lot. I think you put your posts well thought ou and I now put you o
127 Post contains images King767 : Seems I forgot to complete this sentence. I happen to believe that Airbus's low prices, and "deals" combining other aircraft, and Airbus's common cock
128 Post contains images United Airline : The -400 is a DOUBLE-STRETCH of the -200 and carries about 35 % more pax than the -200 does Well, by that time, the B 767-200 might have been gone out
129 MAC_Veteran : "As I'm sure you are aware, ATL-HNL currently stops in LAX because corporate can't agree with the pilots on rest facilities for the 767-400." Is that
130 MAC_Veteran : "Also, MAC, I really think you hate to admit that the difference between the A332s and 764LRs MAX range is just 285nm" A Major -BIG- difference though
131 King767 : Yes, you are right, the 764LR will be in service in 2004, unfortunately. Although I don't really see much in range increases for both models, there a
132 Post contains links MAC_Veteran : KING767 "Get what worked out? The plane is doing EXACTLY what it is supposed to be doing! Domestic routes? Again, look at CO, and DL has plans to send
133 King767 : "Why is it taking so long for the international routes at Delta to be served with the 764? (-Aside from the pilot rest facility issues-)? The reason w
134 Shawn Patrick : Wow. This topic has been getting a lot of attention.
135 MAC_Veteran : The reason why DL is only operating 764s currently on domestic routes is because DL wants "pilot familiarization" before they expand with the 764ERs.
136 DeltaSFO : First of all.... Great debate, guys! I'm glad we're able to discuss this in a levelheaded manner. As a point of clarification, I believe the 767-400's
137 King767 : For how many months? Sheesh this thing has been in "familiarization" mode for -how long now-? That's the point I'm getting at, which belies something
138 Post contains images RIX : Most of this thread looks to be a 330 vs 764 discussion... Well, 330 is BY DESIGN bigger, has more passenger and cargo capacity and more range. Is it
139 Post contains images RayChuang : Folks, Getting back on topic , I personally think UA will buy more and more A319/A320 models over the next few years, despite the downturn in the econ
140 United Airline : They should go for a few B 757-200s as well as 300s along with the Airbus A 319/320 to replace their B 727s.
141 United Airline : Actually, which one is bigger? The B 727 or the A 320? I strongly believe that they should replace SOME of the B 727s with B 757s so as to increase ca
142 ILUV767 : United Airline: At United, both aircraft seat 138 passengers, in the same layout.
143 Post contains images United Airline : Thanks David!
144 Post contains images United Airline : Actually I still believe that UAL will still be a major operator of Boeing's products. They just have about 100-200 Airbuses.
145 Post contains images United Airline : Sorry to re-open this topic again. One more thing I would like to add it. As you all know, US Airways has some A 321s on order and they do own some in
146 Juul : United Airline: What the h**l are you talking about? US doesn't have any MD-90s, TWA doesn't have any 737s and I've never heard of a RR-powered 737...
147 United Airline : Hey guys: Sorry everyone but I didn't type those by myself. Someone did it for fun. I believe someone has been posting those crap for me. I was at the
148 Post contains images Juul : Yeah right, that's what they all say... No seriously, whoever did this knew what he / she was talking about: all you have to do is change the 9 into a
149 United Airline : Yeah you are right. The 9 should be changed to 8 while the 3 should be changed to 5. TWA does have operate any B737s. But 717s. And I believe AA will
150 United Airline : One more thing...... I don't think AA will keep the A318s. How about you?
151 Juul : There's another topic about this: they've already cancelled the A318 / A319 order.
152 Ampropilot2b : The TWA/US 757 swap sounds good, but aren't TWA 75s a lot newer than US's. I think all of TWAs are five years old at most. How old are USs'?
153 TEDSKI : Some of the US Airways 757s are ex-Eastern Airlines planes that were purchased before the airline went bankrupt.
154 Post contains images United Airline : I made the idea of the 'swap' of the B 757 but that guy typed it as B 737 instead. The newer ones should be swapped......... Anyway, TWA's B 757s are
155 Post contains images United Airline : Actually, some of the B 757s can be used to replace UAL's B 727s. Some of them but not all............. What do you guys think about the 'Swap' idea?
156 Post contains images United Airline : One more thing...... Last, but not the least...... I strongly believe that the A 321/A330/MD80 will leave. However, why can't UAL form a company and h
157 ILUV767 : United Airline, United already does airplane leasing. Also, accoring to my sources, the MD-80s are going to AA too.
158 Post contains images United Airline : ILUV767: Sounds cool! Will the MD80s be sold or leased to AA? The A 330s as well as the A 321s should be leased out externally. That would be a good i
159 Gerardo : I have been told by a very good source, that UAL not only inteds to operate the US A333, but to order more for transcon flights and flights to Hawaii.
160 United Airline : Oh seriously? Where did you get that from? I am sure UAL is committed to an all-Boeing fleet of planes that are as big as or larger than the B 757. Wh
161 King767 : I have been told by a very good source, that UAL not only inteds to operate the US A333, but to order more for transcon flights and flights to Hawaii.
162 MAC_Veteran : King767 Can you take the time to detail and -substantiate- these "rumors from management" that they intend to dump the A330 (or other Airbus equipment
163 Post contains images United Airline : King767: I agree too! It's just like CX going to order the B 767-400ER. Des
164 Post contains images Gerardo : Hey, King767, if you believe all those "UAL is selling the A333 right away and nobody needs the A380"-experts, why don't you believe me? I have the sa
165 CPDC10-30 : United Airline, I am going to ask your own question to you: Oh seriously? Where did you get that from? I am sure UAL is committed to an all-Boeing fle
166 Post contains images United Airline : Hey everyone! Breaking news! Cathay Pacific to return A330s for 767s! (That's just how bad it sounds) -Tom Sounds cool.
167 Post contains images United Airline : Oh............... Has UAL ordered a single Airbus Widebody? NO! Would it be cost effective to operate B767, B777 as well as A 330 at the same time? NO
168 Juul : United Airline: The fact that UAL has never ordered an Airbus widebody doesn't mean anything. There's always a first time... Remember 6 months ago Qan
169 Buddymagoo : The A320 series is a wonderful airplane which many US Airways pilots and UA pilots are very pleased with. Recently I was able to fly an A320 simulator
170 CPDC10-30 : Would it be cost effective to operate B767, B777 as well as A 330 at the same time? NO! Then why is it a good idea for CX to operate A340-300, B747-4
171 Imkeww : The A330 would do very well for transcon and flights to hawaii for its ability to carry mucho premium seats and ability to carry a massive amount of c
172 Post contains images United Airline : For CX, they already flying the B777-200/300. So why not add the ER version as well? UAL has never flown an A 330 before. And they never will. They be
173 Post contains images CPDC10-30 : UAL has never flown an A 330 before. And they never will United Airline, if I ever see an A330 in United's fleet I am fully expecting you to eat my w
174 Post contains images Juul : 'UAL has never flown an A 330 before' true, but US has... And it's US they'll be taking over. With US they'll be taking over Us' personnel, which is u
175 Post contains images Gerardo : CPDC10-30, You could spice up this jogging shoe with some socks, of course used for 2 or 3 months without washing Regards Gerardo
176 King767 : King767 Can you take the time to detail and -substantiate- these "rumors from management" that they intend to dump the A330 (or other Airbus equipment
177 ILUV767 : United Airline wrote: Oh............... Has UAL ordered a single Airbus Widebody? NO! Would it be cost effective to operate B767, B777 as well as A 33
178 Post contains images MAC_Veteran : King767 You just illustrated the "look before you leap" tendencies that us fact-starved aviation fans are -dying to avoid- when it comes to discussion
179 Shawn Patrick : I still can't believe how big this topic is!!! Keep it going! Let's make 200 replies!! -Shawn
180 King767 : King767 You just illustrated the "look before you leap" tendencies that us fact-starved aviation fans are -dying to avoid- when it comes to discussion
181 MAC_Veteran : "For CX, they already flying the B777-200/300. So why not add the ER version as well?" UAL has never flown an A 330 before. And they never will. They
182 MAC_Veteran : What I stated are statements that have been circulating around for awhile. Is it true? Well it came from a UA A320 FO on my way to DEN last year. Than
183 Post contains images King767 : Oh god, I thouh we were over this! They both have their advantages, but MAC, you have to admit it sometimes. (You know what im saying) 1.) UAL has a l
184 MAC_Veteran : Folks, Some here would really like to see UAL's "loyalty to Boeing" continue. Granted there are many reasons for this. But I ask for those who think t
185 TEDSKI : The P&W 4000 series engines hung on the wings of an A330 have more thrust (68,000lbs) than the ones under the wings of a 767-300/400 (60,000lbs).
186 King767 : The P&W 4000 series engines hung on the wings of an A330 have more thrust (68,000lbs) than the ones under the wings of a 767-300/400 (60,000lbs). Wow,
187 Tullamarine : What a bizarre thread. It started out about UA buying A32Xs and has rambled on for ages about every type developed since the 707. Boeing 747 400, you
188 MAC_Veteran : Tullamarine What a bizarre thread. It started out about UA buying A32Xs and has rambled on for ages about every type developed since the 707. Boeing 7
189 Boeing747-400 : Tullamarine, you must be the type of person who thinks younger people have no right to be here. United Airline may not know as much about the whole av
190 MAC_Veteran : Boeing 747-400 I dont think it's much an issue of a right to post, no-one would question that, but with that responsibility, one should post with a se
191 CPDC10-30 : Boeing 747-400, thats sour grapes if you ask me. I can't be much older than United Airline. Tullamarine is directing comments to people making silly c
192 United Airline : ILUV767: I know that UAL owns a few Airbus Widebodies, but they never operated them actually. Boeing747-400: Thank's so much for your support. I been
193 B737-112 : MAC_Veteran....... You are so right on! You've been added to my Respected Users list for your awesome posts!
194 Eg777er : Gosh this is entertaining. It's a bit like the BA/A330 debate which I have heard is raging within the company - do they get some for the European rout
195 Boeing nut : WOW! This topic certainly has sparked a heated response! OK, I'll through my two cents in. I think eventually, United will end up with an Airbus narro
196 King767 : And King767, be very wary about what pilots tell you...they are usually the last to know about management decisions...he was probably an FO trying to
197 Post contains images RayChuang : Boeing nut, You are absolutely correct! I think Boeing will be commited to buying as many A319/A320 planes as they can get--these will completely repl
198 Post contains images United Airline : After all the B 727s have retired, I doubt they will go for more A 319/320s for some time. They already have enough. What they should do is to order m
199 Widebody : United, "For the BWB, do expect them to go for some when Boeing launches them in the future. In fact, they may become the launch customer" Why?
200 Shawn Patrick : #199
201 Post contains images Shawn Patrick : This is post number 200! WooHoo! -Shawn
202 QantasA330 : If anybody in this thread honestly believes that UAL (the worlds LARGEST 777 operator) would have A330's in their fleet... your nuts. It makes ZERO se
203 Post contains images RIX : Whether UAL keeps or sells the 330s, it will have nothing to do with how good the aircraft is but with what UAL needs (the same for possible 764 purch
204 Post contains images United Airline : Widebody: Hopefully, more and more people will be flying by then I suppose. And I DO believe that they need the capacity of a BWB for some of their ro
205 MD-90 : United Airline has achieved his goal in life: A thread with more than 200 replies! Way to go, United Airline.
206 Boeing747-400 : I second that of King767 and QantasA330.
207 TEDSKI : If the 767-400 is such a terrific plane why is the A330-200/300 out selling it? Look how many current 767-200/300 operators like Air France and others
208 WiLdmanVzla : What a great topic!!!!! Please: keep arguing, I'm learning a lot!!!! (... by the way, I love the A330-200 so much) *****
209 Boeing747-400 : TEDSKI, maybe because the 764 has just came out...
210 Boeing nut : I think the 764 isn't a hot seller is because it is a niche aircraft. The 777 was designed to replace the DC-10/L-1011. Most airlines that have the 77
211 United Airline : Boeing nut: You are right! The B 767-400/400ER will be a great success in my opinion. It fills up the gap between a B 767-300 and a B 777-200. And is
212 Post contains images United Airline : One more thing, the B 767-400 is still new.
213 Udo : Please distinguish between the A332 and A333. The B777 can do much of what an A330 can but don't compate it to the A332. The A332 is a B764 competitor
214 Voodoo : Why should UAL buy 764s if Boeing is now touting the 20XX ? And if Boeing has shelved the 747X (apparently), and UAL needs 500+ seats, then UAL will b
215 Post contains images United Airline : I don't think Boeing will completely kill the B 747X program. I am SURE they will be in production by 2006. Korean Air is about to reach an agreement
216 Eg777er : OH COME ON!!!!!! EVERY TIME SOMEONE SAYS 'A330-200 IS BETTER THAN 767-400' THE LIKES OF BOEING747-400 CLAIM THAT THE 764 IS STILL NEW. THAT'S CRAP!!!!
217 King767 : If the 767-400 is such a terrific plane why is the A330-200/300 out selling it? Look how many current 767-200/300 operators like Air France and others
218 Post contains images Boeing nut : Greetings all! Should we try for 300 replies?
219 United Airline : King767: I agree with you! Boeing indeed has something hot to offer with it's 764. What is it? Let's see and we will know. Des
220 Post contains images United Airline : Boeing nut; Sure we should! Let's have a go! Des
221 Post contains images United Airline : Hey guys! Sad to hear that Boeing will not be 'actively marketing' the B 747X anymore. However, they will still be building it if an airline expresses
222 MAC_Veteran : I hate breaking it this way to you, but it seems you havent read through the various press releases (independent of those from Boeing mind you) and un
223 Boeing747-400 : Hey MAC, if you would learn how to read, they slowed the plans down for building the plane, and they will bring back newer 747s when airlines want the
224 MAC_Veteran : Hey 747-400 Ahem..If you could -read- and -understand- the -obvious- in the press releases and also factor in this is the SECOND TIME a project based
225 Post contains images United Airline : Oh come on! Sorry to break it in this way but Boeing747-400 is right. Boeing said they WILL produce the B 747X if an airline needs it. It wouldn't sur
226 MAC_Veteran : United Hold on a second here. Let's get something straight. Boeing just announced that it's "shelving" the B747X and announced that they are going to
227 CPDC10-30 : United Airline, I'd be very interested to hear your take on Airbus' plan for the A330-500.
228 United Airline : The A 330-500 is a great plan as well. Hope it will be launched some day. Wasn't it cancelled?
229 Widebody : No United Airline, The A330-500 was shelved, yet you picked it up as cancelled...funny that, i did the same today...... As for the 747X, it is dead...
230 Post contains images United Airline : Shelved I mean. Sad to see that A 330-500 has to be shelved. It is very hard for them to make big bugs out of the A 380 Program. They would have to se
231 Widebody : If they find a customer they will launch it? Will they spend $4 billion for one customer? BTW, if KAL, UAL and JAL are all interested, why was it shel
232 Post contains images United Airline : Umm......... true. But who knows? Maybe they are not interested for now. Anyway, let's see. The B 747-400LR will do well for UAL anyway. What do you t
233 Widebody : I think personally the -400LR will do very well.......it will depend though on what operators want to replace their -400's with.......they can stick w
234 Post contains images United Airline : I am sure it will be a great success. Long Range, more payload........ Do expect UAL to go for more B 747-400s, as well as this B 747-400LR after the
235 Post contains images United Airline : Actually, when did they start coming up with the idea of a B 747-400LR? I am interested to know. A great idea.
236 Boeing747-400 : THE 747X IS NOT DEAD. Boeing is still offering the plane, they have put it into a sleep, and it will eventually wake. Boeing did this because they sti
237 ILUV767 : United Airline Wrote: am sure it will be a great success. Long Range, more payload........ Do expect UAL to go for more B 747-400s, as well as this B
238 CPDC10-30 : Why are you guys so adamant that Boeing will have to compete with Airbus re: the A380? Boeing is a lot smarter than you guys give them credit for. It
239 SQA340 : Ok.. I have read this topic. This has gone on for so long I will have to just predict what UAL's fleet will look like in the future. First off, United
240 SQA340 : I ment to say that the 777-300 will also have less maintence costs too.
241 Post contains images United Airline : But it wouldn't be very nice for UAL not to have the 'Queen of the Skies'. Is it? UAL & B 747X? Not sure about that. Maybe........ I don't think they
242 Post contains images United Airline : I am not sure if UAL will keep the A330 in their fleet. They may lease them to other airlines.. Actually UAL owns some A 330s. They are leased to Air
243 Juul : 'Perhaps the A 330s from US can also be leased to Air Canada.' Fat chance, Air Canada's A330s are RR Trent powered, US' A330s are PW4000 powered.
244 United Airline : Then maybe to other airlines......... Say Cathay Pacific?
245 SQA340 : AA had the 747-100 in their fleet at one time. That is something to think about............. They can lease the A330s to Swissair EK CX EI?
246 Post contains images Widebody : Are we getting touchy Boeing747-400, I thought you were a big advocate of people posting their opinions without criticism? Are you lowering yourself t
247 United Airline : I thought CX has RR Powered Engines on their A 330s. What about Swissair? EK?
248 CPDC10-30 : Swissair uses P&W engines on their A330s, but they are certainly in no condition to expand...they are barely staying afloat.
249 Tupolev154B2 : Boeing747-400: Did you read the rules before you posted? If not, go back and look at rule #4. Wake up, smell the coffee and leave your state of denial
250 Post contains images United Airline : What about Dragonair? An ideal lease to them.
251 Tupolev154B2 : Meant to quote from Boeing747-400 "MAC you asshole!" when I responded to him. And DragonAir uses RR's on their A330's.
252 Post contains images Boeing nut : Hey! We are getting close to 250 replies! Let's go for 300! OK, When was it the Boeing said the 747X program is cancelled? Many people in this topic h
253 Juul : If UA decides to get rid of the A330s, I guess Northwest is a pretty good candidate. They have the same engines, and Northwest could certainly use the
254 United Airline : We are getting close to 250 replies! Let's go for 300! Sure! 300. Approaching. Besides, I hope the B 747-400LR will be success.
255 ILUV767 : United Airline wrote: But it wouldn't be very nice for UAL not to have the 'Queen of the Skies'. Is it? United Airline, UA wont operate a plane just b
256 Post contains images United Airline : Well, let's see. I am sure some of the routes require the capacity of a B 747-400/400LR as Raychuang has said in another post. It is probably cheaper
257 Post contains images Boeing747-400 : Widebody, After all the unnecessary things he said about me, what'd you expect? Shame on you.... Tupelov, What kind of denial am I in? Just because I
258 United Airline : Tupolev154B2: Oh yes indeed. They use the PW 4000. Oh I forgot. Boeing747-400: You are right. I think the B 747X has only been slowed down. There are
259 Voodoo : The 747X isn't dead! Its pining for the fjords!
260 Post contains images MAC_Veteran : MAC you asshole! First of all, since you like to critisize just about everyone in these forums, I had to get that out. The 747X isn't dead you idiot!
261 Boeing747-400 : Sice you're so smart, I want you to find me a peice of info stating Boeing has cancelled the 747X. Go ahead, find it. It is very comical you think the
262 Widebody : Boeing747-400, if I remember from a while back, you're supposed to be a trainee with United, yet above I read.."...I also talked to a friend of mine w
263 Boeing747-400 : No, I said a long time ago that I was close to being offered a job with United, but I didn't take it because it required me to move a great distance,
264 Juul : Boeing 747-400 wrote: 'So funny to see how immature you really are, personally attacking Boeing fans everywhere.' Ever notice how it's always you who'
265 Boeing747-400 : No, it is not always me Juul. I don't really care whether I get attacked. Here we have an example of MAC, who seems to be very happy that "the 747X is
266 Post contains images Juul : Boeing 747-400: Indeed, OFFICIALLY, the 747X is not dead. It was just 'shelved', 'slowed down', or whatever fancy name they give it. But if you read b
267 Boeing747-400 : Boeing is going to compete against the A380. They will either build the larger 747s or a new large aircraft. The 747X may never fly. True. Boeing has
268 Post contains images Juul : Wouldn't it be pretty stupid to wait a few more years and let potential 747X customers order the A380? I mean, from what you're saying (and correct me
269 MAC_Veteran : 747-400.. Let's face "facts", If Boeing went out and held a press conference tomorrow saying "The world is flat, the sky is tye-died and the moon is m
270 Widebody : Boeing747-400, Firstly thanks for the United explanation...... Secondly, of course I'm happy the 747X/Stretch has been shelved (cancelled in my opinio
271 Boeing nut : As much I love talking about the 747, this post is becoming tiresome with the inaccuracies and character attacks. I have serious doubts that the 747X
272 Widebody : Nut, "Boeing 747-400, I think we are the only ones that understand the current, repeat current, status of the 747X" I'd rephrase that to 'yourself and
273 Widebody : By the way, you can't just 'leave the door open' for any airlines that are interested, it will take a good number of airlines for them to invest $4 bi
274 Boeing747-400 : Widebody, I do think that if just one airline orders the 747X or/and 747X Stretch, Boeing people may get off their butts and start selling the aircraf
275 Widebody : Where will they get the money for it? All their funds will be tied up in this sonic cruiser if they pursue it, and they won't likely plough $4 billion
276 Post contains images United Airline : Boeing747-400: Boeing is indeed smart. They have the door open for the B 747X market. Nevertheless, they are not going to jump in and make a loss just
277 Widebody : Not necessarily Des, in terms of Boeing, the Sonic Cruiser will require a good deal more engineers than the 747X/Stretch........in terms of Airbus, be
278 Post contains images Boeing nut : Widebody, Thanks, I inconceivably forgot to include thee 744 in my 400-500 category of aircraft! Don't forget, the A380-50 hasn't been launched yet, s
279 Post contains images United Airline : Boeing nut: Well, if the A 280-50 has the same features as the B 747-400, why not stick to what they have then? I am not sure whether or not A 380-50
280 Post contains images United Airline : Widebody: Thought you wanna work in the Superjumbo market. Des
281 Boeing nut : I agree united. On the other side of the coin, operators of the A380-100 could acquire both the A380-50 and A380-200 and keep the commonality of both
282 Widebody : Superjumbo market? Depends, engineers work on future projects, in the case of Europe, this is currently the A318 and of course the A380 (and I suppose
283 Post contains images United Airline : Well, if the A 280-50 has the same features as the B 747-400, why not stick to what they have then? I am not sure whether or not A 380-50 will be laun
284 United Airline : Widebody: I plan to work in the airline field as well. I got accepted by quite a number of Universities like UNSW in Australia to do Aviation Manageme
285 Widebody : Nice, airline business gets more interesting by the day........me, finishing a 4 year Aero. Eng. degree in June, nice to get out, I'm getting sick of
286 Post contains images United Airline : So what do you guys have to do for your course? Would you mind telling me? I mean...... What is it about? Hope to hear from you soon!
287 Post contains images United Airline : Hey guys, let's keep this going. We're almost to 300!!! Oh sure. So do you guys think whether or not the A380 will be launched? Any potential buyers?
288 Post contains images Boeing nut : I think we can make it to 300! A380? Launched? Not a chance!! There will be no buyers. They will get no orders! OK, I got that out of the way. To answ
289 Post contains images An-225 : This topic just got out of hand... a long time ago
290 Post contains images United Airline : Sure we can make it to 300! That's our goal! YEAH! Obviously, the B 747X Stretch Freighter can do a lot the A 380F cannot. For the B 747X Stretch, wel
291 Tupolev154B2 : I agree that the 747X will be able to haul cargo that the A380 can't, namely oversized items because of the second deck being out of the way. Then aga
292 Post contains images United Airline : This topic just got out of hand... a long time Oh I am sure. Looking forward to seeing 300 replies.
293 United Airline : Then again, wouldn't airlines specializing in oversized cargo be opting for the A300-600ST? Exactly! Actually which airlines own the A 300-600ST?
294 United Airline : Boeing_nut: One more thing, you on my respected user list. Check it out! Des
295 CPDC10-30 : All silliness aside, United Airline raised an interesting point re: the comparison of the A380F and B747XF (stretch). Obviously, the B 747X Stretch Fr
296 Post contains images United Airline : Well, if freighters of Airbus are that good, why aren't there many A 300-600ST? Besides, I think the B 747X Stretch Freighter can carry more. With hig
297 Post contains images United Airline : Put it this way. I am NOT against the A 330-600ST, or the A 380F. They look cute ok? I just think that the B 747X Stretch Freighter will do better. Ju
298 CPDC10-30 : A380F will have a payload of 331,000 lbs, how does the Boeing aircraft compare? They don't post the info on their site.
299 An-225 : This makes me wonder - which topic on here got the most replies?
300 An-225 : It is hereby my honor and pleasure to bring this post to 300.
301 Post contains images CPDC10-30 : Cheeky bugger...
302 Trintocan : Just my 10c worth: A300-600STs are owned by Airbus itself (5) for transporting components of its planes from factories to assembly plants for assembly
303 Post contains images United Airline : Wow....... More than 300 posts. J/K Trintocan: You may be right. However, Boeing is still a lot bigger in terms of assets, market share etc etc. Best
304 Post contains images United Airline : An-225: Thank You very much for bringing this thread to 300. Des
305 Post contains images United Airline : Hi again fookies. These are a few of my last questions on this post. Actually, I have two ideas. Do you guys think it is possible for UAL to convert t
306 Tim : I have read pretty much every post in this thread. It has been very interesting. I have to say that MAC_Veteran has blown you all away. His posts just
307 RayChuang : I think for this decade I see the following happening in regards to United Airlines' fleet: 737-200--will be retired later this decade, replaced by mo
308 Post contains images United Airline : RayChuang: HKG will mainly be served by B 747-400s. Maybe the B 777-200ER for a few routes like SFO-HKG (Second flight). It will be cool to see additi
309 Post contains images United Airline : I have read pretty much every post in this thread. It has been very interesting. I have to say that MAC_Veteran has blown you all away. His posts just
310 Post contains images United Airline : One more thing, what do you guys think about converting US's A 330-300s into Freighters and have them flying for the United Cargo? Although the A 330-
311 Boeing nut : Tim, I see you are into character attacks and discruntled Boeing employees. MAC verteran is nothing more than that. He likes to belittle people and ha
312 An-225 : Ok, I wonder if this is going to hit 400...
313 Boeing nut : An-225, This really does make me wonder, what is the record for most replies?
314 CPDC10-30 : United Airline, two points that you should be informed about: Boeing only offers GE90 engines on the 777-200LR/777-300ER. This is why many customers a
315 CPDC10-30 : The "TWFirst" thread in the non-aviation section is now in its 8th volume, over 2100 posts!
316 Post contains images United Airline : CPDC10-30: Reasonable. An-225: Sure let's see if we can! Des
317 Post contains images United Airline : By the way, Happy April Fools Day! Hope to hear more ideas from everyone of you in this post.
318 Post contains links and images United Airline : Hey guys! Go to: http://www.ual.com/site/primaryPR/1,10026,1528_778,00.html It might be a bit outdated but I would like ask your comments. I do believ
319 Post contains images United Airline : ONE MORE QUESTION. Do you guys think UAL will stick to P&W powered engines?
320 Post contains images United Airline : Sorry should be stick with, not to.
321 Post contains images RayChuang : I still wonder why everyone has concerns about the GE90 engines. Besides the fact that GE's warranty service on the GE90 is second to none, once the p
322 Post contains images United Airline : So, will UAL switch to GE as well? I think they will still be using P&W engines on their B 777-200ERs, A 320s as well as A 319. Right? Also, is P&W th
323 Post contains images United Airline : Hey everyone I think this topic is going to die. Anyway, I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has given their suggestions on th
324 WiLdmanVzla : What a wonderful topic!!!!... I learned a lot, thank you!!! *****
325 Post contains images United Airline : WiLdmanVzla: You are welcome! And hope to hear more from you guys soon! Des P.S: By the way, do you guys like this topic?
326 N628AU : I have just suggested deletion as this topis has gone on about 300 too many replies since last talking about the posted topic.
327 United Airline : Wow. Someone is opposing this topic. For those who support this topics, thanks to you all
328 Post contains images United Airline : This topic I mean. Once again, thanks! Have a nice day!
329 Post contains images United Airline : Please feel free to rate this post as well. I would like to take some comments and ratings from you guys as a reference for my future posts.
330 CloudNine : The order is for the airbus A320-200's and A319's.My question is.whether United will order into the Airbus 321's also,how do they fair economicly agai
331 Post contains images United Airline : I don't think they will order the A 321. Coz it really doesn't fit into their fleet. I think they should the B 757-300. Or more B 757-200s. Just my 2
332 An-225 : This topic just would not die...
333 Post contains images United Airline : Well, it is a good and informative topic I suppose. So keep it alive.
334 Post contains images United Airline : An-225: Hope it will not die. Well.....Nothing harm to keep it alive. Des
335 Post contains links and images Baec777 : CPDC10-30, Im sorry about my reply on AA not flying A300s, but I do remember that AA been flying A300s long time now, and I did a post on this Airbus
336 Post contains images United Airline : AA indeed DOES fly the A 300. They been flying that for a long time. Wow............ This topic pops up again. Hope it will never die. Regards.
337 Post contains images United Airline : Hey guys! I would like to collect some idea and opinions about whether or not UAL will fly to Kuala Lumpur in the future. Let us do a brief SWOT Analy
338 Post contains images United Airline : Actually, will AA retire its A 300s in the near future? They look new to me.
339 An-225 : This one just won't die. Let's just wait and see what United does with their fleet. In my opinion, as it was said before, they will retire 727's and r
340 Post contains images United Airline : UAL will replace the B 727s with a mixture of B 757s and A 320s. For A 319, they are for expansion, not for replacement. The B 737-200 will be around
341 Post contains images United Airline : Widebody: Sorry to bring this topic up again. Since you do not show your e-mail address, I can't possibly e-mail you. It has been a while I haven't se
342 EGGD : It isn't a battle between Airbus and Boeing on "who's bigger", but "who's more successful". From the sales figures i'd say they were neck and neck, ma
343 Post contains images United Airline : From the sales figures i'd say they were neck and neck, maybe Airbus slightly more successful. Boeing is indeed a bigger company in terms of Market Sh
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