CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4761 posts, RR: 25 Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3653 times:
United obviously must love the A320 series if they are making follow-on orders. And now with the upcoming acquisition of US Airways, they will have a fleet of A330-300 that fit nicely between the 767 and 777. Don't forget that US Airways has lots of A321, A320 and A319 with many more coming, so the total is much higher than 192 out of 1000. That is why the merger makes sense...the narrowbody fleet will be common.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them keep the 330s. Heck, they might even order more.
Boeing747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3589 times:
United is going to get rid of the A330s. They don't want them. They will take the A320s. There is no way on this earth they would order A330s. They are ordering more and more Boeings larger than the A320. United seems to be very satisfied with their A320 fleet, AND the rest of the fleet, which consists of all Boeing aircraft. United will not order and Airbus planes larger than the A320 series.
BelugaBoy From Belgium, joined Mar 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3502 times:
Another topic were you proove how you just take your hopes and dreams for the reality.
Never 1 Airbus in the American fleet while they have already 35 ...
They are going to get rid of the A330 without any source to proove it ...
In another toopic you shouted that Lufthansa would NOT buy the A380, now it turns out that they are close to the biggest order yet ( 10+15 ) !
This is just anti-Airbus talk , the reality is that United IS the biggest Airbus customer and will probably stay for some time ( after the merger they have even more Airbus planes and a lot of options ) The fact that they place follow-up orders prooves that they are very satisfied with there Airbus planes.
So why get rid of there A330's while they have a lot of older planes that need replacement before the A330's ?
Varig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1578 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3441 times:
I don't know if AA fly all A300 they ordered,but when you go to MIA you still see quite a number of them around....which the first time I went to MIA surprised me since people talk about AA as an "all american" airline
oh by the way,where are the guys yelling that all airbus customers are nothing but subsidized by the EU to buy the buses????
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N628AU From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 329 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3436 times:
Don't forget that US has 9 A330 now, with 1 more deferred to 2003, and 20 on option. 30 airplanes is substantial. The only official line from United is that they have not yet been able to evaluate the economics of the A330 to make a decision about it's future SHOULD the merger occur.
The options that US holds can be converted to either -200 series or the A340 should the airline deem they are required.
TheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3407 times:
My two cents...$
1) past week United adds to Airbus fleet with fear that merger with USAirways will not be approved
2) merger not approved
3) USAirways can't get its costs under control...and files for protection...TWA No. 2
4) Airbus 330s sold on world market
See, United Airlines will not fly A330s...there's your proof.
Pecoua From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 299 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3374 times:
Being a UA flight attendant, I can tell ya that I won't shed a tear when we retire the last 727. No movie, small overhead bins and just a tired workhorse. The more Airbuses the better. The aisles are wider and the passengers are much more comfortable...and all are video equipped as well. That's important on long flights, especially now that we offer free audio and movies on all flights over 3hrs..except on the 727 and 737-300/500 which are audio equipped only. 737-200 are the only fleet member that do not offer any kind of entertainment...hopefully they will be replaced with the A319s soon.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8818 posts, RR: 12 Reply 22, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3315 times:
The A330 is to big to replace a 767-200. Honestly, I think UA will pull a BA...have A32X doing the short-medium haul, the 733 and 735 have plenty of life in them still, and use 757 for high-density short haul or low density transcon, and 747, 767, and 777 for TransAtlantic and TransPacific routes.
Art at ISP From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3312 times:
For what it's worth, the A330 makes a little sense for UA as a replacement for the 767-222 fleet used on the transcon market. Those airplanes are beat up and worn, and the Airbus in UA seating configuration (I would assume they would have less Envoy and another row of first) would hold around 250 passengers. This would add capacity and also enable UA to cut back on frequency if the economy dictates.
I am sure the 330's were made available at fire sale prices so you might just see them hang around for the transcons. Just my 2 cents worth.
OO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3300 times:
Seems that nobody in US wants to see an A330 in United colors. I don't understand this bashing for Airbus products, is it because it's european? I am reading a lot and I've never seen any kind of official statement that US airways A330s will be for sale..so why does these guys like 'Boeing 747-400' always state that 'United will get rid of A330, they don't want them'...?! Ridiculous, I don't understand.
Same thing with the A380. As a real aviation enthousiast I am always happy to see a new aircraft, whatever it's european or american. Why does this A380 gets so much bashing in the States? Is it because it's not a Boeing? Com'on guys, grow up.
Falcon....like a limo but with wings
25 Cba: The A330 makes little sense for UA. It is too big to replace their 762's and 763's, which don't need replacing yet anyway. Why are we talking about re
26 BA: Now, don't forget, United was considering ordering some A330s to replace there aging DC-10s on there Hawaiian routes. I haven't heard anything for abo
27 Boeing747-400: United really has no plans to keep/order the A330s. Just like AA said they wont take the A318s from TWA. I have heard this many times on these forums,
28 Boeing747-400: OO-AOG, Ok,friends of mine working for UAL have said it. I may have heard FLY777UAL say it, and it will not do any good in the UAL fleet! A few A330s
29 Widebody: I dunno much about UAL's widebody fleet, but I take it from the above they operate 747, 777, 767 and DC-10......with narrowbosies, commonality exists
30 Widebody: That should read..... "I don't see why there isn't a possibility that UAL may introduce the A330......", not "may not"....
31 Early Air: That is not a whole lot. I like the A320 though with UA. However they will only stick with the small planes. The rest will be Boeing. I think this is
32 King767: For mega-carriers like UA, commonality between short-haul aircraft, and long-haul aircraft is not a big thing. Anyway, introducing yet another cockpi
33 Boeing747-400: I agree 300%. Introducing a new Airbus cockpit to a HUGE fleet of Boeings does complicate things a lot. It would cost the airline more money to get ne
34 RayChuang: I think UA will sell the A330-300's back to either Airbus or a large leasing company such as CIT, GECAS or ILFC. The reason is simple: they're too exp
35 United Airline: UAL will not be keeping the A 330 I suppose. Why? Coz it is too expensive just to keep 7 of them. Besides, the A 330 is not compatible with the B 777.
36 Boeing747-400: I do think UAL is interested in an A330-type size plane, so, expect some more orders for the 767-400, it is way more omcpatible with the current fleet
37 United Airline: UAL is interested in the B 767-400ER. The A 330 is far too expensive to operate comparing with the B 767-400ER.
38 United Airline: UAL is interested in the B 767-400ER. The A 330 is far too expensive to operate comparing with the B 767-400ER.
39 DatamanA340: I don't think UA would maintain 330s, but as Cedarjet stated, there is no proof about. Maybe it takes even a year for any determination. On the other
40 Boeing747-400: The reasons mentioned abve are simple on why the 767-400 is better for United. The 767-400 would be better in UAL's fleet for these reasons: 1.) Compl