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DL Vs CO 767-400ER - Unfairly Compared?  
User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6648 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10810 times:

I was wondering about this, and looking at many past threads, many people seem to compare DL's domestic 764ERs to CO's 764ERs, and have always bragged about CO's layout being better.

Why did these people even make this comparison? Comparing DL's domestic 764ERs to CO's 764ERs is an apple vs. orange comparison.

A more fair comparison would be DL's current international 764ERs to CO's 764ER. Even in international configuration, though, some people still claim CO's product to be better. One thing that DL's international 764ERs have that CO's 764ERs do not is AVOD. Some people claim that DL's 2-2-2 BusinessElite layout on their 764ERs is substandard, despite the fact that 2-2-2 is used by the majority of 767 operators in their international Business class cabins. Luckily, DL will soon be installing the Thompson Solutions Vantage suites, which will be in a 1-2-1 layout, but will be staggered row by row.

I was wondering, are these comparisons only for people who dislike DL? I am not trying to be controversial here, I am just stating facts based on personal experience.


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User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1329 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10508 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
I was wondering, are these comparisons only for people who dislike DL? I am not trying to be controversial here, I am just stating facts based on personal experience.

No, I think most people just liked the seats better on CO. Having one less seat accoss on a 767 is a big deal. Plus the aisles are wider, just making for a more spacious feeling. Dont worry, comments about COs 767-400ERs are not anti-DL, they are in favor of the CO seats.



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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10438 times:

DL's 764ERs will have 4 abreast true lie flat in Business Elite with the first ships entering service next spring. CO has made no decision on a true lie flat product in business class. DL operates the world's largest fleet of int'l 767s and within a couple years all will feature the lie flat seat, in addition to DL's 777s. NW has an angled lie flat seat in business class on its 330s and 744s but the expectation is that those seats will be upgraded to DL's lie flat product. Since DL and NW have well over 150 widebody int'l aircraft and all will have a lie flat seat within a couple years, DL will clearly have the largest fleet of lie flat aircraft in the world.

There are also rumors that DL might add a First class cabin back on some of its aircraft.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7564 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10354 times:

Why are airlines pulling the BS that they are, such as DL's new "suite", especially for those who want a window seat, the airlines should just stop taking aircraft deliveries with windows up front since half of them are so far away its like sitting in the aisle seat in Y.


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User currently offlineDutchflyboi From Netherlands, joined Apr 2008, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10355 times:



Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 2):
CO has made no decision on a true lie flat product in business class

I guess you forgot this post:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4077687/

It can happen to the best of us...
Currently most people prefer the current seats over Delta seats. Once the new seats are installed on both airlines we can discuss those....and yes CO has not said of they are going to install the new seats on the 767


User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10185 times:



Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 2):
There are also rumors that DL might add a First class cabin back on some of its aircraft.

Hmm, so an international F cabin. I assume if it does happen though, only the 777s and 744s (and maybe the 787s) will get it. Perhaps this would be a good choice for an F suite:
http://www.contour.aero/firstclass/index.php?contentID=26

For the NW J cabin upgrades, I am expecting that the A330s will get the Thompson Vantage suites, while the 744s will get the Contour Premium Solar suites.



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User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10141 times:

My family (wife and 2 year old kid) and I just flew a DL B764 from ATL to AMS. We sat 15C,D and E and I was very pleased with the service and the product (food). Good job DL.

Boeing727


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3714 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9967 times:



Quoting Dutchflyboi (Reply 4):
and yes CO has not said of they are going to install the new seats on the 767

I thought the 764 will be among the last after the 788 and 772s to have the new BF seats. The status of the 762 remains in limbo whether the plane will still remain in the fleet in a few years.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9932 times:



Quoting Dutchflyboi (Reply 4):


Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 2):
CO has made no decision on a true lie flat product in business class

I guess you forgot this post:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4077687/

It can happen to the best of us...
Currently most people prefer the current seats over Delta seats. Once the new seats are installed on both airlines we can discuss those....and yes CO has not said of they are going to install the new seats on the 767

Dutchflyboi WorldTraveler is partially correct, the link you gave was to CO's new Lie flat Business First product that will be introduced on the 41 757-200s, 28 777-200ERs and 25 787s. That particular seat will not be installed in CO's 767-400s as it would result in less seating on the 767-400 something CO has stated they do not want to do, instead they are still working on a different design (still lie flat) for the 767 fleet. That new design has not been revealed yet, also the 767-400s are indeed getting AVOD. However the priority for CO is to do the AVOD installation on the 757 and 777 fleet first, the 757 fleet is just about complete.



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9850 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
I am just stating facts based on personal experience.

You say, "based on personal experience," but yet you don't talk about actually HAVING FLOWN in a Continental 767-424. Have you?
I, for one, love Delta's 764s. So just asking.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
Even in international configuration, though, some people still claim CO's product to be better.

We've been over this- Continental's international Business product wins awards. Every year. Delta's doesn't.
Don't argue with me, argue with Zagat or whoever did the survey this year.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
Some people claim that DL's 2-2-2 BusinessElite layout on their 764ERs is substandard,

It IS substandard. The only competitor is offering 2-1-2. Therefore, 2-2-2 is substandard. 2-2-2 is what other carriers offer on wider aircraft like 777s. Delta included, come to think of it. So basically, you've got Delta putting the same number of seats across on a 767 and a 777. Yup, substandard.

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 2):
CO has made no decision on a true lie flat product in business class.

Not true- Continental has already announced lie-flats. They've simply not put the 767 fleets as high a priority refit as the 757 and 777 fleets. So, they're coming, just not soon, which is a bummer, and will clearly give Delta the advantage when it comes to 767 seat comfort!
But, CO will certainly win a comparison of 757 up front comfort. And the 777 as well.

Anyhow, Delta is a pretty good airline, and will be fine regardless of 767-400 seat equipment used.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8503 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9731 times:
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Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
One thing that DL's international 764ERs have that CO's 764ERs do not is AVOD. Some people claim that DL's 2-2-2 BusinessElite layout on their 764ERs is substandard, despite the fact that 2-2-2 is used by the majority of 767 operators in their international Business class cabins. Luckily, DL will soon be installing the Thompson Solutions Vantage suites, which will be in a 1-2-1 layout, but will be staggered row by row.

Most 3 class 767 Biz Class is 2-2-2, but 2 class 767's are 2-1-2 or 5 per row. The new 777 lie flat seats in W-type configurations are NOT the same as traditional seats.


User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 9609 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 9):
It IS substandard. The only competitor is offering 2-1-2. Therefore, 2-2-2 is substandard. 2-2-2 is what other carriers offer on wider aircraft like 777s. Delta included, come to think of it. So basically, you've got Delta putting the same number of seats across on a 767 and a 777. Yup, substandard.

No, it isn't. AA's 767s all have 2-2-2 in J, as do UA and US. CO is the ONLY U.S. airline that offers a 2-1-2 layout on their 767s.

[Edited 2008-09-30 17:15:59]


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9452 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 9):
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
Some people claim that DL's 2-2-2 BusinessElite layout on their 764ERs is substandard,

It IS substandard. The only competitor is offering 2-1-2. Therefore, 2-2-2 is substandard. 2-2-2 is what other carriers offer on wider aircraft like 777s. Delta included, come to think of it. So basically, you've got Delta putting the same number of seats across on a 767 and a 777. Yup, substandard.

And BA's premium economy (World Traveller Plus) on longhaul 767-300ERs is 2-2-2.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 11):
No, it isn't. AA's 767s all have 2-2-2 in J, as do UA and US. CO is the ONLY U.S. airline that offers a 2-1-2 layout on their 767s.

Which is another reason why the J product on 767s operated by U.S. carriers other than CO is substandard. Many foreign carriers have (or had before they installed flat bed seats, e.g. AC) 5-abreast in J on longhaul 767s.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9700 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9341 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
A more fair comparison would be DL's current international 764ERs to CO's 764ER. Even in international configuration, though, some people still claim CO's product to be better. One thing that DL's international 764ERs have that CO's 764ERs do not is AVOD. Some people claim that DL's 2-2-2 BusinessElite layout on their 764ERs is substandard, despite the fact that 2-2-2 is used by the majority of 767 operators in their international Business class cabins. Luckily, DL will soon be installing the Thompson Solutions Vantage suites, which will be in a 1-2-1 layout, but will be staggered row by row.

I like it will be:
X-XX-X
X-XX-XX
Not sure But I want to say every other row will be 1-2-1 and the others will be 1-2-2

Quoting FRNT787 (Reply 1):
No, I think most people just liked the seats better on CO.

Aren't the 767 seat out of the DC-10s? or was it the 757s? I can't remeber which but they have pretty nice seats.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 5):
Hmm, so an international F cabin. I assume if it does happen though, only the 777s and 744s (and maybe the 787s) will get it. Perhaps this would be a good choice for an F suite:
http://www.contour.aero/firstclass/i...ID=26

LOL a little to nice........think AA or UA.
I would say the A330s and 764 will get first too. 75Es and 76Es will stay C/Y and 777s,747s,787s,764s,A330s get F/C/Y

Quoting STT757 (Reply 8):
That new design has not been revealed yet, also the 767-400s are indeed getting AVOD. However the priority for CO is to do the AVOD installation on the 757 and 777 fleet first, the 757 fleet is just about complete.

Which is smart. 20 T7s and 50(?) 752s vs. 17 764s.



yep.
User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9302 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 13):
I like it will be:
X-XX-X
X-XX-XX
Not sure But I want to say every other row will be 1-2-1 and the others will be 1-2-2

No, they will all be 1-2-1, at least on the 764. However, if the Thompson Vantage suites are installed on the A330s (which they most likely will), I assume the layout will be as you describe. The Contour Premium Solar Suites like on the 772LRs will still only fit 3-abreast on the A330, so the Thompson Vantage suites would be a better choice. The 744s though can easily get the Contour Solar Suites though.

I wonder though, if DL does introduce an international F product, on the 744s, will the F cabin be placed at the nose of the aircraft like most airlines, or will DL put the F cabin on the upper deck like LH? I know some prefer the upper deck for feeling more private, while others prefer the nose for not having to climb stairs.

Also, the reason I suggested the EK-style suites in the link I posted is because DL has a rather strong relationship with Contour. Keep in mind that even though the new suites on the 764ERs are based on a Thompson licensed design, they will be built by Contour. The manufacturing of the Thompson Vantage suites is outsourced to Contour Premium and Sicma Aeroseat.



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4763 posts, RR: 44
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9270 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 13):
I like it will be:
X-XX-X
X-XX-XX
Not sure But I want to say every other row will be 1-2-1 and the others will be 1-2-2



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 14):
No, they will all be 1-2-1, at least on the 764. However, if the Thompson Vantage suites are installed on the A330s (which they most likely will), I assume the layout will be as you describe. The Contour Premium Solar Suites like on the 772LRs will still only fit 3-abreast on the A330, so the Thompson Vantage suites would be a better choice. The 744s though can easily get the Contour Solar Suites though.

The Thompson Vantage will be standard for all non 777 and 747 a/c at some point.

767 a/c will be 1-2-1
A330 a/c will be 1-2-2.

Swiss is installing the same seat (with cloth instead of leather) - go to their website if you want to see how it will be installed in the Airbii.



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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1619 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9269 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 11):
No, it isn't. AA's 767s all have 2-2-2 in J, as do UA and US. CO is the ONLY U.S. airline that offers a 2-1-2 layout on their 767s.

This post is about CO and DL 764, not AA, US, UA nor any other version of 767. At least, that is what the title says.

So, comparing airlines that the topic is actually about, he is right.

If you want to add all airlines that fly the 767, then you can compare.

M


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9700 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9261 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 14):



Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 15):

Thanks guys I guess I got it confused.

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 13):
I like

I think**



yep.
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9198 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 13):

Which is smart. 20 T7s and 50(?) 752s vs. 17 764s.

CO has 20 777-200ERs (8 on order), 41 757-200ERS, 10 767-200ERs and 16 767-400s.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6132 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 9156 times:



Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 15):
A330 a/c will be 1-2-2.

Swiss is installing the same seat (with cloth instead of leather) - go to their website if you want to see how it will be installed in the Airbii.

The configuration on the LX Airbuses is 1-2-1/2-2-1 (alternating rows.) Like you said though the 767s will have to be 1-2-1.


http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/services...ess_class/Pages/business_seat.aspx



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User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8107 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
1-2-1 layout

As far as I know if DL installs the new herringbone configuration lie flat bed like AC did then their seats on B767 will be 1x1x1 as for B777s they will have 1x2x1 and same for A330 1x2x1.
Seat configuration on DL will be the same as AC Executive First seats configuration since they both have same a/c in their fleet minus AC former B747-400s.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8035 times:



Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 16):
This post is about CO and DL 764, not AA, US, UA nor any other version of 767. At least, that is what the title says.

Hey, he's the thread starter- if he wants to not talk about what he's talking about, by all means let him!!!!

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 11):
No, it isn't. AA's 767s all have 2-2-2 in J

You're not old enough to remember, but AA had 2-1-2 in their 767s for a long time, back in the day. I suspect UA did as well, considering how nice an airline they once were.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 11):
as do UA and US

If US is the new 'standard' of business class comfort, we're all in big trouble.
 Yeah sure

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12):
And BA's premium economy (World Traveller Plus) on longhaul 767-300ERs is 2-2-2.

There you have it, 1337Delta764, Delta's business class product is on par with... British Air's COACH.

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 13):
Aren't the 767 seat out of the DC-10s? or was it the 757s?

That's the 757s. Comfy, but not a lot of recline. I can't wait to see the new ones.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8018 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
I was wondering, are these comparisons only for people who dislike DL? I am not trying to be controversial here,

...And by the way, yes you are trying to be controversial, as evidenced by your rabid defense of everything Delta in your own latter comments.
And, no, these comparisons which find the Continental up front cabin to be better are NOT "only for people who dislike DL."
As I've already stated, I like DL.

But one thing I said that you didn't seem to have an answer for is that:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 9):
We've been over this- Continental's international Business product wins awards. Every year. Delta's doesn't.
Don't argue with me, argue with Zagat or whoever did the survey this year.

Seats aside, Continental has a better product, according to Conde Nast, OAG, etc.

So no, it hasn't to do with who likes Delta or doesn't... it has to do with the fact that airline authorities Conde Nast and OAG say that Continental has a better Business Class product.

Any questions?


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7806 times:

You DL fanboys make me laugh.

Its an airline dude - seriously - get over it. AS Vinnie says - there has to be more important things to get getting your knickers in a twist about, than whether people think your beloved 764ER is not as nice as CO's.

Its the same plane - its just that it is flown by DL and CO who are different airlines and use their 764s for different missions. CO are a better airline in many respects (and in a different world compared to DL in my experience) but DL have their advantages too. I've not taken DL's 764 or CO's for that matter so who cares what I think? You'll find the majority of people on here who claim to have flown a certain type of a certain airline, haven't. With that in mind, who cares what they think either? If you prefer it, then you prefer it - why the need to complain when others dont see it the same way.

Going back to me, here's an example.

My favourite plane is the A345.
My favourite football team is Chelsea.
My favourite London airport is LHR.
My favourite airline is EY.
My favourite 80s icon is Nik Kershaw.
My favourite food is hot Persian chicken curry.

I dont care what people think - neither should you!  Smile

Happy days.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6535 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7780 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
was wondering about this, and looking at many past threads, many people seem to compare DL's domestic 764ERs to CO's 764ERs, and have always bragged about CO's layout being better.

Why did these people even make this comparison? Comparing

Praising CO's 764's is NOT being negative DL's 764's. Nobody but you, has ever brought that up on this thread. The are both fine airlines and both own a fine aircrft in the 764. That is what people think.

Where do you get the idea, that dissing the DL 764's is on anyone's agenda? I think the A332 is a better aircraft, but so what? I hope that doesn't upset you, because it does not upset me if you think the opposite.


25 WorldTraveler : And I stated from the beginning of my post that DL will have the advantage when they add true lie flat seats to their 764s. As for CO not putting the
26 Alitalia744 : Correct - was simplifying it for the point of comparitive width.
27 GayStudPilot : WT-- One of the reasons DL took out F was that they were not making the margins they thought and their research indicated trends that the market for
28 1337Delta764 : Well, the old F seats were simply outdated and behind the competition's F offerings. However, with DL improving their J cabin, it would be very inter
29 WorldTraveler : DL did not operate much in the Pacific or into LHR when it made the decision to remove int'l F. With the NW merger, DL will serve every major world bu
30 United1 : Wasn't DL flying to FUK, NRT, KIX, NGO, SEL, HKG, TPE & BKK when they launched Business Elite?
31 WorldTraveler : I flew on L10s that DL once operated with int'l F across th.... but as we know the writing was already on the wall about how DL's Pacific operation wa
32 1337Delta764 : As I stated, if Delta does introduce an international F product, they will most likely be introduced on the 744s and 777s. They may also be added to
33 777STL : I'd like to make an observation and offer my opinion. For the DL folk, it seems that if you don't absolutely adore DL, then you're against them, i.e.
34 Cubsrule : This is absolutely correct, but there's another, more practical reason that the reintroduction of F is much more likely to happen after the merger: N
35 Alitalia744 : Lets not lump every DL-fanboy into that category. I have no problem calling DL's sh*t when it needs to be called out and will continue to do so. You'
36 WorldTraveler : you and I knew when you read the title of this thread where this topic was going..... the reality is that no one accepts criticism of their preferred
37 CV880 : Except a big fat hole on the West Coast that is basically disjointed except via connections thru SLC (a far out of the way place for coastal resident
38 Viscount724 : I assume your comment is limited to other U.S. 767 operators. Your statement is not true if you are referring to all 767 operators worldwide.
39 1337Delta764 : There are very many 767s out there, and very few airlines have a 2-1-2 J cabin; CO is in the extreme minority. Looking through SeatGuru, the only oth
40 OA412 : So, we should expect the good in terms of new international markets and the announcement of a new JFK terminal but there's also something not so good
41 Viscount724 : AC (and Canadian before merging with AC) also had 5-abreast on 767-300ERs (2-2-1 on AC and 1-2-2 on CP), since converted to flat-bed herringbone seat
42 Alitalia744 : Not not so good. There is good and bad in everything OA412.
43 OA412 : Right you are! Your tidbits of info regarding DL are always greatly appreciated.
44 777STL : I know you're not in the category. I should have qualified that statement with *some* DL fans....
45 Haggis79 : oh come on.... you are not trying to tell me that DL suddenly will have a product which can seriously compete with SQ, CX and other true world class
46 WorldTraveler : DL isn't finished w/ the west coast.... and CO is a lot further from having a viable west coast presence than DL does. funny how you CO fan boys wann
47 CALPSAFltSkeds : A little off topic, but since WT has entered the thread, why not join him. That World Class DL must have over capacity problems as my sister in law bi
48 WorldTraveler : I said they have no choice but to offer a product on par w/ the world's top airlines. Does UA or AA offer it now? No, and I don't expect DL will offe
49 BriGuyinHou : I predicted a few months ago that DL would have problems filling seats on this route. I also predicted that your sister-in-law would enjoy travel and
50 Post contains links STT757 : They made it Official today, CO's 767-400s will be getting the AVOD and new lie flat BusinessFirst seats. http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...apps
51 Gilesdavies : Air Canada puts all the above 767 operators to shame! The have a 1-1-1 config in their business class product and the XM makeover to Economy makes the
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