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LAS Opens New D Wing, 12 More Security Lanes  
User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4111 times:

http://www.lvrj.com/news/29946054.html

Today, LAS opened 9 new gates on the D concourse, there are a total of 44 gates out there now. It is at its ultimate completion - 4 wings, 44 gates. The only addition will be when terminal 3 is built and there is a tram linking T3 to the D concourse. It looks like United moved over there (based on the departure schedule, they're using D50+ and thats the new wing).

So to help with the long lines problem, they added 12 new security lanes downstairs near ticketing for the C gates (WN). The upstairs security lanes are expected to be adjusted more for D concourse use where there is demand (whenever passenger traffic decides to come back to Vegas). There used to be one "hidden" security lane downstairs near ticketing, that was used mostly for tour groups and on very high traffic weekends. There are now 31 security lanes for C and D.

So hopefully the next time you come to LAS and leave on a Sunday, your security wait wont be an hour or more.

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User currently offlineG4resagent From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4049 times:



Quoting SirOmega (Thread starter):
your security wait wont be an hour or more.

When has it been an hour or more? They move a lot of people through the lanes rather quickly. I've never waited more than 15 minutes.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

Sounds good - I'll check it out Friday when I fly into LAS.

User currently offlineAirbusaddict From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 415 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4024 times:



Quoting G4resagent (Reply 1):
Quoting SirOmega (Thread starter):
your security wait wont be an hour or more.

When has it been an hour or more? They move a lot of people through the lanes rather quickly. I've never waited more than 15 minutes.

I definetly agree with you. When i traveled out of LAS, yeah there were a lot of people going into the security line, but the line really went fast ("security line fast if you know what i mean"), i would say under 20 minutes.



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User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4317 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

On a related note, WestJet announced a move to Terminal 1 today. Which gates are they going to use? I would imagine somewhere on D.

User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3984 times:



Quoting G4resagent (Reply 1):
When has it been an hour or more? They move a lot of people through the lanes rather quickly. I've never waited more than 15 minutes.



Quoting Airbusaddict (Reply 3):
I definetly agree with you. When i traveled out of LAS, yeah there were a lot of people going into the security line, but the line really went fast ("security line fast if you know what i mean"), i would say under 20 minutes

was this on Sunday though? Seriously I was there last October on a Sunday, and it did take over an hour. I couldn't believe it, I have never seen an airport security line so long, and I have been to some pretty major airports in my time (ATL, ORD, DFW, CDG, LGW, MUC, LAX, MSP, etc)


User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3948 times:

As a local, I never fly out of Sunday during the day if I can manage. I know the lines are long the few times I've flown back in on Sundays. Also on three day weekends, the lines tend to stack up too. I don't fly again until the week before Thanksgiving, so I wont be able to check out the new security checkpoint until then, and I haven't been to the D gates in a while (ever since my 6-hour delay with DL in ATL due to an ice storm in January).

Why Westjet wouldn't have moved back earlier I dont know, supposedly there are lots of open gates in A/B due to the dehubbing of LAS by US.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3890 times:

Sundays at LAS can be bad in the mornings. When I was in school, I would take the 3:15 p.m. flight back to ATL, so it was at least pretty good at that hour as most of the East Coast folks had taken earlier flight (the 3:15 p.m. flight only connected to Southeastern U.S. cities) - a lot less volume at that hour. Makes flying out of LAS enjoyable - 5 minutes through security, then up to the President's Club.

User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1363 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3768 times:



Quoting SirOmega (Thread starter):
There used to be one "hidden" security lane downstairs near ticketing, that was used mostly for tour groups and on very high traffic weekends. There are now 31 security lanes for C and D.

Is it now the area where one waits grab a van shuttle between Concourses C and A/B?

Quoting SirOmega (Thread starter):
Today, LAS opened 9 new gates on the D concourse, there are a total of 44 gates out there now.

Does LAS really need those gates? Unless WN or G4 is planning a mega-expansion and intends on kicking US out of A/B, what value would it add?


User currently offlineHrvhow1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3667 times:

The new D gates opened today with UAL Taking about 8 gates in the new terminal. The only other airline that moved to the new D Gates was Air Tran with two gates. United vacated their original gates and its rumored that Continental Airlines will move into the original UA gates near Delta Airlines. Continental recently opened a Presidents Club above to UA gates so this would be a better area for Continental Airlines.

As a result of this move I would expect Midwest to move with Continental to the former UA gate area as well since they share gates with Continental.

Other moves will include:

Spirit Airlines moving from D gates to concourse A/B (No Interline Traffic)

WestJet moved to concourse B, from Terminal Two. As a result of this move WestJet was able to offer their passengers KIOSK and they are now close to Southwest who they will Code Share with next year. The WestJets move will also welcome the opening of the new catwalk between the A/B gates to the C gates where Southwest currently resides. The improvement will allow passengers in the A/B gates to move to C gates without having to leave the sterile area and go through security again for the C gates.

Future moves include the move of Hawaiian Airlines, and Air Canada. Its rumored that both will move to the A/B gates within the next 120 days.

The only airlines that will be left in term 2 will be true International Flights such as Virgin Atlantic, Condor, Philippines MyTravel, British Midland.

As for the D gates all other carriers will remain there such AA, DL, F9, AS, NW, YX, UA, CO, VX, G4, B6.


User currently offlineG4resagent From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3557 times:



Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 8):
what value would it add?

As hrv pointed out, almost everyone except WN and US operates out of D.

Quoting Hrvhow1 (Reply 9):
rue International Flights such as Virgin Atlantic, Condor, Philippines MyTravel, British Midland.

Don't forget Korean, Aeromexico, Mexicana, and Aviacsa. I'm sure I'm forgetting one or two.


User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 362 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3475 times:

Seat capacity @ LAS is down sharply this year, but this latest and final expansion of Conc D clearly was started at a time when the airport was growing rapidly and needed to add more gates. It ensures the airport will have ample gate capacity for the next several years, because it will take time for the passenger traffic to return to '07 levels. While Allegiant may be growing there, the rate at which US is snatching capacity from LAS is what will be hard to fill/replace. Don't have any trips planned to LAS in the near future, and haven't been there in nearly 3-years, so I need to find my way back for a long weekend. Hopefully I can travel in/out of Conc D to see what it looks like in its completed form.

User currently onlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

I flew out of LAS on United the Sunday before last and mid morning. It took 50 minutes to clear security. In fact, there is a length line to get onto the esclator to go upstairs from ticketing, I couldn't believe it.

The last 4 times I've been to LAS, the line hasn't been less than 40 minutes but usually around an hour. Always leaving on Sunday though.


User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4317 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3424 times:



Quoting Hrvhow1 (Reply 9):
WestJet moved to concourse B, from Terminal Two. As a result of this move WestJet was able to offer their passengers KIOSK and they are now close to Southwest who they will Code Share with next year. The WestJets move will also welcome the opening of the new catwalk between the A/B gates to the C gates where Southwest currently resides. The improvement will allow passengers in the A/B gates to move to C gates without having to leave the sterile area and go through security again for the C gates.

Which they can already do now with the shuttle bus that is running from near where the US special services desk was over to C-19 or something like that.

This whole gate shift thing illustrates the beauty of having all CUTE. It makes it much much easier for the airport to shift airlines around in a more efficient manner like is happening now. If you didn't have this, US would be hogging the gates on A and B, to keep out competition and the airport would have had to build terminal 3 a lot sooner, not to mention WN would have no room to grow any more either. Glad to see that LAS has it right in this situation. Other airports could learn.


User currently offlineBWphoto From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3152 times:

Flying out of LAS on US Sunday at 0725. Should I expect much of a security line at Concourse A/B at that hour?

[Edited 2008-10-01 11:08:10]

User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3045 times:



Quoting G4resagent (Reply 1):
When has it been an hour or more? They move a lot of people through the lanes rather quickly. I've never waited more than 15 minutes.

It always happens once in a while during convention peaks or when TSA calls in sick or something. thats why they had to reinforce the floor and extend it, since people once in a while would be lined to the outside entrance. Most I ever spent was 45 minutes in D security, 20 in C and 15 in A/B but sometimes I would see D having more trouble.

Also speaking of that I wonder if Southwest still has the ground level security area still open on weekends, where you can just go outside the WN check in area and walk over the C building and go through 2 detectors and upstairs.



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User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Hi eveyrone,

Sitting at LAS now, and I am not impressed. I am flying on Southwest, so I am at the C gates. There is only one lane at the C-D gate entrance for C gate passengers -- all the other lanes are dedicated to D. There was zero line for the D gate lanes, but a decent line for the C gates, with only one lane. Whatever other checkpoint is around for C is not operational yet, or at least not today, because all signs moved pax toward the C-D gates. Annoying. Also, only one tram is operating from the checkpoint to the C gates.



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User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2331 times:



Quoting Apodino (Reply 13):

This whole gate shift thing illustrates the beauty of having all CUTE. It makes it much much easier for the airport to shift airlines around in a more efficient manner like is happening now. If you didn't have this, US would be hogging the gates on A and B, to keep out competition and the airport would have had to build terminal 3 a lot sooner, not to mention WN would have no room to grow any more either. Glad to see that LAS has it right in this situation. Other airports could learn.

LAS has had CUTE for a long time. I figure it was always a result of being behind the growth curve and trying to maximize pax/gate.

Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 16):

Sitting at LAS now, and I am not impressed. I am flying on Southwest, so I am at the C gates. There is only one lane at the C-D gate entrance for C gate passengers -- all the other lanes are dedicated to D. There was zero line for the D gate lanes, but a decent line for the C gates, with only one lane. Whatever other checkpoint is around for C is not operational yet, or at least not today, because all signs moved pax toward the C-D gates. Annoying. Also, only one tram is operating from the checkpoint to the C gates.

Thats disappointing, they may not have updated the signage to point to both checkpoints. What I'd like to see is an LED sign in the WN ticketing area as well as the old and new checkpoints regarding how long the security line in each location will be - this way you can choose the shorter checkpoint.

When I was at LAS last (Labor Day weekend), they had almost finished up one of the new trams (east), and were going to shut the other one (west) down. You can always walk though, it might look far but its really not that long between the checkpoint and the first few gates on the west side of the concourse.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2291 times:



Quoting G4resagent (Reply 1):
When has it been an hour or more? They move a lot of people through the lanes rather quickly. I've never waited more than 15 minutes.

There has been many times the lines are long during peak travel. This was needed. LAS needs to grow even more. The town has outgrown that airport long time ago.


User currently offlineG4resagent From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2265 times:



Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 16):
There is only one lane at the C-D gate entrance for C gate passengers -- all the other lanes are dedicated to D.

It is a Wednesday... The businest days tend to be Thursday - Sunday.


User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

Whats interesting in regards to the new terminal, new gates, the Old long term
parking is completely gone. It was only a month ago or so they shifted to the
new long term parking across the street from the Car Rental Center.
Along the boneyard storage area for ULDS it was weird to see some old AA
M1 Containers, from the OLD days when AA operated B747F's. Those things
have been sitting around for nearly 25 years I bet.



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User currently offlineSirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2138 times:



Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 20):
Whats interesting in regards to the new terminal, new gates, the Old long term parking is completely gone. It was only a month ago or so they shifted to the new long term parking across the street from the Car Rental Center.

It should be moved back for Thanksgiving - the area north of T2, where the really old car rental center used to be.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...512&spn=0.005635,0.019526&t=h&z=16

5,000 spaces - the old lot was 3500 or so.


User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2106 times:



Quoting SirOmega (Reply 6):
s a local, I never fly out of Sunday during the day if I can manage.

I somehow manage to avoid Thr, Fri, and Sun. Every other day is a go.. Especially Tuesdays..

Quoting SirOmega (Reply 6):
I don't fly again until the week before Thanksgiving,

I fly the Tuesday before Thanksgiving at 6 am. All 5 years I've done it, security has been a breeze. Bad breath here and there, but it's more than manageable.

Quoting SirOmega (Reply 6):
Why Westjet wouldn't have moved back earlier I dont know,

I thought WEStJet passengers had to go through Customs... No? And what was the purpose of MG moving to T2 before they shutdown? I never understood that.. That old lot was removed because Russel Rd. had been shifted. Or at least I think that's why.. And of course it was too small...



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User currently offlineG4resagent From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2096 times:



Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 22):
I thought WEStJet passengers had to go through Customs... No?

They pre-clear customs prior to leaving Canada. Pre-clearing customs in YVR is amazing. I love it, and it is way better than the Customs at LAS.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2096 times:



Quoting Hrvhow1 (Reply 9):
The new D gates opened today with UAL Taking about 8 gates in the new terminal. The only other airline that moved to the new D Gates was Air Tran with two gates. United vacated their original gates and its rumored that Continental Airlines will move into the original UA gates near Delta Airlines. Continental recently opened a Presidents Club above to UA gates so this would be a better area for Continental Airlines.

Would make sense for CO to move into some of these gates formerly occupied by UA. It's a bit of a hike to their gates from their lounge, so this should make it pretty easy to improve that situation. I wouldn't be surprised if Virgin America moved to the former UAX turboprop gate, which would free up the complete even-number side of the D30-D45ish concourse for Delta/Northwest - would give them D30 (currently Allegiant uses this gate from what I've seen), D32 (Virgin), D34, D36, D38, D40, D41, D42 (all of which are current Delta gates). Put CO in D33, D35, D37 and D39 (would give them one more gate, as they currently have D19, D21, D22) - puts them next to their club, gives them a little more room to breathe and gets them out of the zoo which is the end of the concourse they're currently on (although the D37-D42 gate area can be pretty bad at times; thankfully the ATL flights tend to leave out of D38 which makes it a bit nicer).


25 SirOmega : Yea, I fly back on Tuesday night, we'll see how that goes... I'll be leaving PDX though so the lines shouldn't be that bad.
26 LASOctoberB6 : So does that mean that they don't have to go through Customs here in Las Vegas? In fact, how does that Customs operation work anyway?
27 DeltAirlines : For flights departing several major Canadian airpors (YVR, YYC, YEG, YWG, YYZ, YOW, YUL, YHZ), as well as several Caribbean airports (BDA, NAS, FPO,
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