EarlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 223 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6338 times:
ACG Air Cargo Germany GmbH (www.acg.aero) ist eine deutsche Frachtfluggesellschaft mit Sitz am Flughafen Hahn (Hunsrück) und nimmt dort demnächst den Flugbetrieb auf.
Wir sind spezialisiert auf den weltweiten Luftfrachttransport und starten mit B747-400F zunächst im asiatischen Raum, VAE, Russland und Türkei. Die weitere Entwicklung sieht eine Expansion nach Nord- und Südamerika vor.
from their website:
Cargo airline soon to start ops from Hahn, Germany
Does anybody know anything about them, who is behind, where do they get their B744f´s from, how many etc. etc.??
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10051 posts, RR: 12 Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6265 times:
Never heard about this company and plans to operate 744Fs based in Germany. Nice to hear. The livery (if it becomes reality as drawn) is boring and lacks design quality (sadly that is also the case of the new German 777F operator founded by DHL and LH). The website doesn´t look too professional, too, if you ask me. It appears as if they plan to operate converted 744 pax aircraft, so the sources are most likely SQ, ANA or UA, maybe Eva Air).
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10051 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5867 times:
Quoting 413X3 (Reply 5): while we can poke fun at the livery, and I did with the new Aloha Cargo, it's still just a cargo airline, and dos not matter in the end.
That Cargo Airline liveries are worse than pax airline schemes isn´t true. TNT as a larger, Cargo 360 as a small company (now bought by Southern) are proof of it.
A professional visual performance is very important, don´t underestimate it. If the graphics look like made by a village two-men agency it won´t raise much trust in the ability of the company by potential clients used to a higher standard.
Columba From Germany, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 6991 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5809 times:
Great if true, I always have asked myself why Germany as the biggest export nation has no second freight carrier except for LH Cargo operating widebodies as in other countries have plenty of smaller freight airlines even operating 747Fs.
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8300 posts, RR: 26 Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5788 times:
Quoting Columba (Reply 8): Great if true, I always have asked myself why Germany as the biggest export nation has no second freight
simple answer. The market does not support 2 carriers. Second - there is no "German" market, there is the European and the World market. LH could not sustain on the German market alone. I haven't got the share of the German freight on LCAG passenger wise it is about a third, the other 2/3 are drawn from all over.
Next - freight goes in bellies as wqell, connectivity is a key factor, something this new venturee cannot offer.
Next - we have Cargolux, Martinair SU Cargo and Air Bridge cargo as established carriers all pilfering the German market. Plus the Asian carriers like CV etc with regular flights.
Any newcomer will have a tough time in a market szenariuo where freight sometimes is sold for 0 plus fuel and security fees.
Conclusion - I would not invest a penny in this venture. The thumb goes down.
BTW - color schemes really are no marketing factors for cargoi. The rate per kilo and the availability are, nothing else.
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10051 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5764 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 9): BTW - color schemes really are no marketing factors for cargoi. The rate per kilo and the availability are, nothing else.
Not the colourscheme as such, I meant a professional presentation as a whole, and colourscheme is part of it. If I would have 3 companies to choose from, and one of them presents itself as if coming from the woods, I would check more thorough if they are able to do the job requested. It is a matter of professionality. Compare it to attend a formal presentation and one presenter is wearing a Boss suit with Chelsea Boots, the other sandals with white socks to a bordeaux C&A suit from early 90s. I doubt you would think the latter is a professional, do you? First glance is not everything, but its important, also in Cargo, I´m sure.