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Which Airline Does NOT Serve Alcohol  
User currently offlineHerman From Singapore, joined Jul 2000, 231 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 28890 times:

Hi,

My Topic is my question !

Anyone out there who has any idea, please reply !

Thank You

Cheers

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User currently offlineNUair From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 28834 times:

You might have problems in some very Islamic countries. But then again the pilots have to drink something.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


P.S. don't bother asking LH about a direct route from Munich to Milwaukee where you get to eat an unlimited amount of bratwurst and drink beer by the gallon. It's been suggested.

NUair



"How Many Assholes we got on this ship?" - Lord Helmet
User currently offlineLBA From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 28809 times:

Saudi Arabian, most flights into Saudi don't serve alcohol. Royal Brunei don't, but you can take your own on board and drink it!

User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 28800 times:

Iran Air don't. I guess Ariana don't as well.

Not sure about PIA?



I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24961 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 28792 times:

Probably most of the Islamic carriers . I am sure that alcohol is against their religion or something. Someone confirm this or correct this?


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User currently offlineKMIA From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 28781 times:

Kuwait Airways don't

User currently offlineParra From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 28744 times:

BA and Virgin are very generous indeed. Aer Lingus are crazy, I flew a 40 minute flight from LHR to DUB and they came around pouring from 70cl bottles. Everyone was wasted then they got off the plane.

User currently offlineHerman From Singapore, joined Jul 2000, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 28738 times:

Malaysia Airlines does !!

How contradictory !!!!!!  Angry

Garuda too, hmm Emirates !!


User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 28734 times:

Several airlines from Islamic countries do not serve alcohol, particularly Saudia, Kuwait Airways, and Iran Air. It's mainly because alcohol is against the Islamic religion, and because of that, often illegal in Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran.

User currently offlinePilot_man From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 28737 times:

PIA--Pakistan International Airlines
Aero Asia
Bhoja Air
Safe Air International--doesn't operate currently
Shaheen Air International
Saudi Arabian Airlines
Kuwait Airways
Royal Brunei Airways
Ariana Afghanistan--doesn't operate currently
Iran Air
A Few others as well.


User currently offlineRootsgirl From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 530 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 28730 times:

There are certain "dry areas" in Canada that First Air (Canada)flys over; at this time they do not serve alcohol.

User currently offlineSwake From Belgium, joined Jan 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 28730 times:

I remember flying them BRU-DUB on Good Friday. When asked what to drink they offered me 2 bottles of red wine. Delirious!! Till I deboarded and found out that all pubs were closed for .. Yeah right  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineWestern737 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 28729 times:

I have a feeling that in the future, all airlines in america are going to be non-alcohol beverages due to increase of air rage passengers. If indeed, blame on those immature passengers.

User currently offlineSwake From Belgium, joined Jan 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 28728 times:

I was talking about EI (sorry, forgot that)

User currently offlineAirbus A380 From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 28728 times:

Yes,

Islam forbids strictly its followers from drinking anything alcoholic, let alone serving it. Although most Islamic dominated countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Brunei and Iran banned the serving of alcohols onboard the airlines, certain Islamic countries airlines do serve alcohols onboard. Examples EK, MH, GA and maybe a few others. They can serve alcohol onboard but provided the alcoholic drinks must be served by a non-Muslim. Hope this helps.

Warm Regards
Ishak Ismail
Airbus A380


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 28717 times:

BA does serve alcohol on flights to Saudi, but "the bar closes" once the a/c is over Saudi airspace.

Alcohol is not neccesarily banned COMPLETELY in Muslim countries. There are various venues where the consumption of alcohol in Saudi, for example, is legal.

They include private compounds for the foreign workers, any Embassy from a non-Muslim country (the territory is regarded as belonging to the country which the embassy represents), and private beaches for the employees of foreign workers.

Women are additionally allowed to unveil themselves within these compounds/areas.

But to drink alcohol etc. in public is a blatant violation of the law in Saudi, and would also seriously offend Muslims.

That's the deal in Saudi!


User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 28706 times:

Hey Cap...are Jews allowed into Saudi I would love to go visit and see it for myself.

rgds
russ


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 28700 times:

Shalom!

Yes, BUT-you obviously shouldn't make a big deal about it.

I am not certain whether there is a specific law which bans all Jewish people from entering KSA (probably not, actually), but they definitely won't let you in with Israeli stamps in your passport. As I also have an Argentine passport, I wriggled my way out of that one fairly easily!

You also need a legit reason for entering "The Kingdom". (Business trip/family/citizen). As my Dad works out there, obviously they have to let me in with a residence permit.

Otherwise, there are Tour Companies which specialise in going round all the various ruins etc, and you could join one of those.

I wear a pendant around my neck with the Star of David. I remove this on a friend's advice, every time I fly back to Saudi-it is not a big deal really, but it might get me into a hassle at immigration, and I don't like taking risks.

It is quite a fascinating country if you ever get to come out here, and the locals are most hospitable.

If you find it too much of a hassle to try and "get in", you might want to consider the UAE, which has similar scenery, but no problems with people of Jewish faith.

Hope that helped.
It is a difficult country to get into, but fascinating.

n.b. Just for some background info, I've also been christened!!! Big grin Fortunately, my parents never forced me into any religion, and as a consequence I have respect for all of them. Went to Israel this Xmas-also a fascinating country!!

Cheers


User currently offlineAmbasaid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 28687 times:

CaptPicard,

There are various venues where the consumption of alcohol in Saudi, for example, is legal.

Can you name me one that doesn't have to do with an embassy or the military?

I know that EVERY compound has a bar, but they arent legal, I think that the word "ignored" comes to mind.

Saudia will not even allow you to carry alcohol on board, at some destinations you are searched, if any is found they will confiscate it.

As for Jews entering the country, do you know of any who have done so?


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 28683 times:

Hi Ambasaid

Take it easy, I was only trying to provide some info to those who might be interested!!

I don't know what SV's policy is, I only mentioned what BA's was.

Perhaps it is not strictly legal as regards the compounds, but that doesn't affect the embassies or military compounds. I'm not a legal expert, I'll admit that.

Can I name you one venue that doesn't include those mentioned? No, but that wasn't my point, and in any case, I did say that it was NOT allowed in public. And apart from that, I'm sure you'll agree that there are a lot of contradictions regarding alcohol consumption etc. in KSA..... Big grin

My point was, that alcohol IS consumed in KSA, just not in public!!

And finally, yes, I do know of Jews who have entered the country:

1) Me
2) My mother
3) My sister
4) My cousins
5) At least 3 others we know, employed in KSA, and living in our compound, are Jewish. (Though they do not practise the religion).

Cheers
CP



User currently offlineAmbasaid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 28673 times:

Capt.Picard,

Sorry for jumping on you, its late and I'm half way through a nice bottle of local wine.

Now I am intrigued, what religion did you enter on the entry card?

The last Jewish guy that I met in Saudi was an executive with Tower Air, they actually went as far as increasing the security around his hotel during his stay.

I have never heard of crews having problems, but with the Saudi paranoia I doubt that Jewish tourists will be allowed for a while.

As for the booze, I have a couple of friends who are "guests of the country" at the moment for drink driving outside a consulate. If they are lucky they will just get one-way tickets out, if not they will be lashed.

As for contradictions regarding drinking, I think that I would go further and call it sheer hypocrisy.

Cheers....


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 28672 times:

Ambasaid,

Enjoy your wine.

In the box, I simply print "n/a". They're ok with that.
Otherwise, I could legitimately put "christian", as I was christened, after all.

As I pointed out to TWA, a Jewish person CAN get in, so long as he doesn't mind "hiding" it.

I am Jewish by "Jewish law". If the mother is Jewish, that makes the offspring "Jewish", whether they believe/practise the religion or not.

In my case, due to my parents, it is a little complicated.

Anyway, have good evening!

Captain Picard, the half-Jew, half-Catholic, half-Argentine, half-Brit. Big grin Big grin Big grin


User currently offlineAmbasaid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 28664 times:

Capt.Picard

Pardon my ignorance, but your faith passes down on your mothers side and not your fathers?


Good night.



User currently offlineMorecy From United States of America, joined May 2000, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 28663 times:

Better watch out Capt. Picard... they're going to look for you at the border now Big grin

User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 28661 times:

According to "Jewish Law", yes that is the case.

Either way, I don't align myself to any one religious belief.

As I am not a religious person, I honestly don't really care how the system works. But as I said, my parents taught me tolerance, and I therefore respect other people's beliefs.

I was christened, because that was the wish of my Catholic grandparents. My Jewish grandparents graciously accepted that, and I am most grateful for having such a tolerant family on either side.

What this has got to do with Civil Aviation is beyond me, but I would quite happily fly with SV etc, as I quite like Apple juice on the rocks... Big grin

Cheers


25 Post contains images Capt.Picard : Morecy- I honestly hope not!!!!!!!!!
26 Post contains images Morecy : as long as your passport doesn't say Capt. Picard, you should be OK
27 SJC>SFO : Hey to anyone who has flown El Al do you know if they let minors drink? Muhahaha.... the fifteen hour flight is gonna be hell without a little of gran
28 TWA_PHX : To: Western737 ...if US Airlines do ban Alcohol on US FLights..this will only be a continuation of the fact that Americans have less and less libertie
29 Chepos : SV isnt going to hire native born Saudi flight attendants right?????? And women flying Saudia lets say from JFK-Jeddah and they are none Muslim must t
30 Post contains images Capt.Picard : Chepos, I've never flown with SV, so I really couldn't answer your question. However, it isn't apprently neccesary for the women to veil themselves un
31 Ambasaid : Chepos, SV don't hire local female FA's, they only hire local females to work in their medical clinic. There is no requirement for anyone to wear a ve
32 Chepos : Thank You for answering my question . But SV was planning to start hiring native born saudi FA's but they had to be accompanied with a male realtive a
33 SJC>SFO : Haha thanks Picard.... and..... well its a little late but Shabbat Shalom anyway.......
34 Ambasaid : Chepos, Dont believe all that you read in the newspapers. Saudi society will not accept local women as FA's. This occupation is definitely not conside
35 747firstclass : I doubt very very seriously if the US airlines will ever go alcohol free. It generates too much cash for the airlines. Above all the first class and b
36 Chepos : Ambasaid I did not read it in the newspapers I read it at Airliners Daily news it was official news . They were actually considering it but the conser
37 CPDC10-30 : Capt.Picard, thank you very much for enlightening us on the situation in KSA for foreigners. It is very interesting.
38 QantasAirways : Sorry if I repeat something already said - because I haven't read them all... Most Asian airlines will serve for free, some will not though, A few yea
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