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Another (6th) New Mexican Int'l Airport Announced  
User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 324 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4194 times:

During President Calderón's Administration construction or major improvement of six new international airports has been announced. The sixth project to be built is located half way between Puerto Vallarta and Mazatlán at Fonatur's newest vacation resort (Fonatur planned and developed Cancún among others: www.fonatur.gob.mx ) at the border between Nayarit and Sinaloa states by the town of Teacapán in the municipality of Escuinapa, Sinaloa.

This one, plus the previous announcements are (all articles in Spanish):

1) Mexico City New International Airport (near MEX), municipality of Texcoco, Estado de México. http://www.skyscraperlife.com/transp...cional-de-la-ciudad-de-mexico.html

2) Mayan Riviera International Airport (near the old TUY), municipality of Tulum, Quintana Roo state. http://www.tuluminfo.org/index.php?v...page=&option=com_content&Itemid=74

3) Ensenada International Airport (near the old ESE), at Mesa del Tigre by Fox Studios Baja, filming home of Titanic, municipality of Ensenada, Baja California state. http://www.bajacaliforniamexico.com....erto-internacional-en-el-tigre.htm

4) Chichen Itzá International Airport (at the old CZA), new hub for MAYAir http://www.mayair.com.mx , municipality of Tinum, Yucatán state. http://www.exonline.com.mx/diario/columna/368370

5) Palenque International Airport (at the old PQM), municipality of Palenque, Chiapas state. http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2008/09/2...?section=politica&article=012n1pol

6) Sea of Cortés International Airport (wasn't this the name previously given to PPE?), municipality of Escuinapa, Sinaloa state. http://www.noroeste.com.mx/publicaciones.php?id=414345

Other than Chichen Itzá and Palenque which are renovations or improvements, the only real ground work that I know of is that of Ensenada. For all the others, all that we have been hearing are announcements and the exact site and blue prints are yet to be seen. All of these are very important projects and I'd hate to find out that they were just announced and never built, like has been the case with the new SAN in California.

Except for the Atenco case, the Mexican government is known to have always built the airports that they have announced including the infamous Agualeguas and Llano San Juan useless airports, so I do expect to see all these projects eventually come to reality.

If any a.netter has any hard info on any of these projects I'll appreciate very much its posting.

[Edited 2008-10-01 20:32:02]
Edited twice for link funcionality.

[Edited 2008-10-01 20:33:34]


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User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

I had to look to see why Carlsbad, Roswell, Hobbs, Farmington, or Alamagordo, New Mexico, needed international airports. Alas, they don't.

But the ones you list are pretty interesting. The Yucatan region must be just booming if there is a need for two additional international airports. Ensenada, too -- where are they expecting to connect in the US? It used to be an OK drive from Southern California, with many vacation homes, but that has probably changed in the 15 years since I've last been through there.

What ever happened to a rumored airport at or near Puerto Penasco, Sonora?

-Ramprt


User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 324 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4042 times:

Quoting Rampart (Reply 1):
Ensenada, too -- where are they expecting to connect in the US?
Four of the six projects are strictly touristic and they are Mayan Riviera, Sea of Cortés, Palenque and Chichen Itzá, but as for Ensenada, other than connecting the Mexican Wine Country, Agriculture and Fishing industries with the rest of Mexico, it is meant to mainly be a cargo airport for the southwestern USA, here's the story:

The Ensenada Airport (at Mexico's privileged area for far east ETOPS operations) is part of a much larger project including a maritime port and railway systems.

Due to congestion at the ports of Los Angeles, Long Beach, and Oakland the closest alternatives of railway-connected-to-the-US high capacity ports are in Manzanillo and Lazaro Cardenas, Mexico, too far away.

That is why the Mexican Federal Government, looking at providing jobs and reduce migration while doing good business with our neighbors is turning Bahía Colonet at Punta Colonet, next to Ensenada in Baja into a multi-billion dollar deep water mega-container port able to handle next-generation cargo ships. The mega-port will be as big as the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach combined. The multimodal maritime center will make Punta Colonet the largest port in Mexico and the third-largest in the world, after Singapore and Hong Kong.

A 200 mile railway extension will be added to the already existing rail line in Baja that connects with all of the southwestern US.

The airport is meant to also help with US and Mexican imports and exports from the far east as well as supporting the projected growth (because of this mega-project) of Ensenada's population by 200,000.

Quoting Rampart (Reply 1):
What ever happened to a rumored airport at or near Puerto Penasco, Sonora?
www.therockypointairport.com PPE is fully operational and served by AeroMéxico Connect from inside Mexico. When it opened, AMConnect was also doing PPE-LAX which has recently been discontinued.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOA9fUcvIlI

Quoting Rampart (Reply 1):
The Yucatan region must be just booming if there is a need for two additional international airports.
Actually, the Yucatan region, made up by Yucatan, Quintana Roo and Campeche states already has seven major international airports: MID and CZA in Yucatan, CPE and CME in Campeche and CUN, CZM and CTM plus the airfields at Playa del Carmen PCE and Isla Mujeres ISJ. This makes the Mayan Riviera International Airport the eighth international one in the peninsula. As an example Continental and Continental Express already fly from IAH to CME, MID, CZM and CUN.

In the same manner Sea of Cortés International will join LMM, CUL and MZT international airports in Sinaloa state, PQM will join TGZ and TAP internationals in Chiapas state, Ensenada International will join TIJ and MXL internationals in Baja California state and the new Mexico City airport will join TLC international in the State of Mexico.

[Edited 2008-10-02 00:56:13]


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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7616 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3790 times:



Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Reply 2):
When it opened, AMConnect was also doing PPE-LAX which has recently been discontinued.

I insist they should try PHX-PPE or PHX-HMO-PPE. I think that could be a successful route.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 324 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3667 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 3):
I insist they should try PHX-PPE or PHX-HMO-PPE. I think that could be a successful route.

Absolutely! PHX-PPE is the -natural- one! PHX-PPE through Hermosillo, I doubt it...



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5947 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3614 times:
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Somewhere not too far south of the border city of Tijuana, there is a thriving community full of United States citizens where there are US-based stores like Wal-mart, Target, etc. It's a beachside community where they boast that waterfront property is about 50% less than those in California. I thought it was Ensenada, but that's just a guess. It was on one of the network news channels probably 6 months ago or so.

In any case, if the Mexican government truly decides to build an international airport near Ensenada, could it turn into another resort location?

Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Reply 4):
Absolutely! PHX-PPE is the -natural- one! PHX-PPE through Hermosillo, I doubt it...

I think when we see the airline industry get back on its feet from the soaring fuel prices, perhaps we'll see another major US-Mexico expansion. It's all a matter of time. Watch out LAX and LAS (and maybe PHX, TUS and SFO)...I think another Mexican airline invasion is on its way.


User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 324 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3556 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 5):
I thought it was Ensenada, but that's just a guess.

Playas de Rosarito and Ensenada (neighboring municipalities south of Tijuana) both are big American ex-pats settlements. Mexico has the largest community of Americans abroad in the whole world, both legal immigrants/residents/binationals/professionals and illegal runaways/hippies/crooks/thiefs/etc.

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 5):
there is a thriving community full of United States citizens where there are US-based stores like Wal-mart, Target, etc.

While all of Mexico has all kind of US-based corporations, including stores from Saks http://www.saksincorporated.com/ourstores/default.asp to H-E-B supermarkets http://www.hebmexico.com , the important part is that you are right, there are many quote "thriving communities full of United States citizens" and yes, Rosarito and Ensenada are...

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 5):
Somewhere not too far south of the border city of Tijuana

and as far as I can tell they already are...

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 5):
another resort location

along many many others throughout the country like San Miguel de Allende, Chapala and surroundings, Puerto Vallarta, Manzanillo, The Tip of Baja Sur, San Cristóbal de las Casas, Puerto Morelos...etc...etc...

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 5):
if the Mexican government truly decides to build an international airport near Ensenada

It is already under construction just between Rosarito and Ensenada.

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 5):
when we see the airline industry get back on its feet from the soaring fuel prices, perhaps we'll see another major US-Mexico expansion

Dear Wedgetail737: I absolutely agree with you and it will be for the very best.

Mayavia E190



My other plane is an A380.
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7616 posts, RR: 42
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3429 times:



Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Reply 4):
Absolutely! PHX-PPE is the -natural- one! PHX-PPE through Hermosillo, I doubt it...

Totally agree. I mentioned the HMO as a middle-of-the way stop because (i) maybe AM would be afraid to try the non-stop; and (ii) AM could consolidate XXX-PPE (where XXX is LAX or a Mexican city) traffic with the natural PHX-PPE traffic at PHX. But yes, I agree PHX-PPE is a no-brainer.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3383 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 7):
Totally agree. I mentioned the HMO as a middle-of-the way stop because (i) maybe AM would be afraid to try the non-stop; and (ii) AM could consolidate XXX-PPE (where XXX is LAX or a Mexican city) traffic with the natural PHX-PPE traffic at PHX. But yes, I agree PHX-PPE is a no-brainer.

Back when I lived in Arizona, Rocky Point was a little low rent, more of an RV destination or place you could road trip to for a weekend (college students). These are folks that wouldn't really be flying PHX-PPE... unless it was WN for $35 oneway! Has Puerto Penasco changed more upscale in 15 years? I guess yes if the airport is there. But I wasn't thinking PHX was one of the connectors, but rather something more like Northern California, Salt Lake, or Denver.

-Rampart


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5947 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3322 times:
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Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Reply 6):
Mayavia E190

Thanks for filling in my post.

So far, my only flight to Mexico was back in the 1980's when I flew between LAX and TIJ aboard an AM DC-9-30, with a whopping 12 people on board. Although very short, I enjoyed that experience. I got a full can of soda and a full sandwich on that 25-minute flight.


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