ABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 879 posts, RR: 3 Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12150 times:
Of course having been in this business more than 25 years I should know not to listen to, or play into rumours. However this is one that I thought was odd, even though the source is not surprising. A First Officer (oh theres the shock!!!! humour intended) popped this one on me this morning in the jetway, that the RP (Chautauqua) crews had recieved a memo that stated there were options on opening up HNL sometime in Nov, under a code share agreement. Hint....UA?
My question is YV about to tank? Or is someone going after YV "GO!" in the Hawaii market?
In my research I saw where UA had invested in AQ, but now with AQ gone would UA use one of its partners in the market.
Ok flame away at me.
I have herd the same thing (RP in Hawaii), but the code share partner is not UA.
If its not UA, then I would be very surprised as UA is either the 2nd or 3rd largest carrier in mainland USA-Hawaii services. UA had invested heavily in AQ and needed AQ for the UA pax inter-island flights.
Whataboutme From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11878 times:
S5 is looking for employees to transfer there, but there is no real info on this till about the 10th of Oct. I do know they are trying to get 22 flight attendants. On or around that day we will find out if the deal went through or not. From what I heard it is close to being a done deal to have a base there by the 15Nov08. I have the memo from the employee website but I will not post it.
This is what I think and please don't flame me. I think it will be an international carrier code share. This is why I think this and I don't know for sure if an American Carier can code share with an International CArrier. But the code share will not be UA or HA. Around the company people think it is DL, but I don't think so either. So who else could a code share go to. Really no one. There is also talk that we will be an independant carrier over there. HMMMM. Can that survive.
DTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11832 times:
It could be for USAirways. They do have flights to HNL 2 daily from PHX. Other then that I could see DL being the other carrier. Since NWA will be merging and they don't have a code share with anyone, I don't think. So it could be for either one of them.
IndyWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11709 times:
If it was USAirways, they'd just use Republic planes...
Although I won't transfer, I'd be glad to go out there to start up the operation for a few months. As long as they pay my hotel bill!
But yes, this was posted on the company website as previously stated. Could be interesting...
Only one I came up with was doing inter-island to feed Alaska. Otherwise, I racked my brain and couldn't come up with anything else.
Warreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11706 times:
Quoting 777ER (Reply 4): Interesting news article. Will Star Alliance members be able to earn FF/airpoints on HA also, or just UA members?
IME, the carrier operating the flight (metal) must be a partner with the airline program to which the frequent flier points are awarded. This is regardless of which airline's ticket stock (code share) issued the ticket.
Hawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3236 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11659 times:
Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 7): It could be for USAirways. They do have flights to HNL 2 daily from PHX. Other then that I could see DL being the other carrier. Since NWA will be merging and they don't have a code share with anyone, I don't think. So it could be for either one of them.
US Airways, Delta, and Northwest all have frequent flyer relationships with Hawaiian.
Ridgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11604 times:
We have heard it is a joint agreement between Japan Airlines, Quantas, AA and oneworld to provide island feed to these carriers and as a one world affiliate carrier. If this is true, they will be operating under their own name, because of scope clauses.
N7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1973 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11514 times:
Interesting...because after a recent trip to Hawaii I came back wondering how Hawaiian could provide enough seats for all of its code-share partners. I mean: Northwest, Continental, Delta, United, American...that's a lot of feed for one airline - in addition to all of its origin traffic and its own mainland feed.
HNL-Jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 835 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11491 times:
Even if the One World partners joined to support this, I for one, would be very doubtful that there would be sufficient connection traffic to support the airline. They'll need strong local resident support which would be difficult to achieve even if they were to come in with lower fares. HA and RP would react and we would have a blood bath once again.
I know they already fly for Delta. Don't forget United too.
It wouldn't be so undercover if it were either of them.
Now I heard a few months ago and this was a rumor that AA was close to a contract with Shuttle but AA pilots would fly the planes. However this isn't the case because S5 are looking for pilots to transfer there too.
I can't wait. I wanna know NOW...LOL...