CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3377 posts, RR: 9 Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4815 times:
Well folks, it's now October 2008. That means, it was 40 years ago this month that the Boeing 737 was introduced to Canada, and 40 straight years of 737-200 service to the on the "Yukon Southern" routes...
The Boeing 737 was first introduced to Canada by CPAir in 1968. The first was CF-CPB, a standard series 200 delivered on 22 October 1968. When delivered, this was also the first aircraft to wear the famous orange livery. The very first revenue flight of this aircraft was on the Vancouver/Whitehorse route, which had previously been operated by a variety of propliners such as the Douglas DC-6.
What is significant about that routing? Well, lets fast forward to 2008. The YVR-YXY run is still doing quite well, and 40 years later continues to see daily service with the 737-200Adv. The airlines have changed, more advanced versions have been introduced, configurations have been modified, meals have changed, but as time shifted the route from CPAir to Canadi>n to Air Canada to Zip to Air North, the aircraft has remained the 737-200.
This says a lot about the aircraft really. Way back in October 1968 the best aircraft for the job was the brand new 737-200. In 2008, 40 years later, the best aircraft for the job is still the good old 737-200.
Also one other interesting note: the orange CPAir livery began with the 737 on the YXY route. Starting from summer 2007 YXY's own airline, Air North, introduced its own new livery featuring an orange tail. So not only are the 737-200s still plying the same route 40 years later, they still do it with orange tails.
Hats off to the 737-200, because although it's now considered a smokey old beater, it's still one hell of an airliner.
CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3377 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4780 times:
And just for fun, a list of past and current Canadian 737 operators: (note: 1. may not be complete, 2. as far as I know all of the below can be found in the a.net database)
-100: N/A -200,-200Adv,-200C: Air Canada, Air Canada Jetz, Air Canada Tango, Air Inuit, Air North, Astoria, Attache by CPAir, Canada 3000, CanAir Cargo, Canadian Airlines, Canadian Air Cargo, Canadian North, Canadian Pacific/CPAir, Canjet, Eastern Provintial, Elderado Aviation, Falconbridge Limited, First Air, Inter-Canadian, Jetall Canada, Noranda Mines, Nordair, NWT Air, Pacific Western, Quebecair, Royal, Royal Cargo, Transair, Vacationair, Vistajet, Westjet, Zip -300: Attache by CPAir, Canadian Pacific/CPAir, Canjet, Odyssey International, Pacific Western -400: Air Transat, CanAir -500: Canjet -600: Westjet -700: Westjet -800: Kelowna Flightcraft, Sunwing, Westjet -900: N/A
Thanks for the reminder. I made my first flight on a 737 on a CP Air 737 from Vancouver to Prince Rupert about a month after they went into service. Still recall that flight clearly. That was just before CP retired their last few DC-6Bs which the first batch of seven 737-200s were replacing. The return flight on that trip was on a DC-6B YPR-YZP (Sandspit)-YVR.
A year later I started working for CP Air and spent the next 25 years there including the last 7 after it became Canadian Airlines. Not sure how many 737 flights I've made over the years on many airlines (the last one a week ago on a KLM 737-300), but it must be in the many hundreds. I've landed in 12 of the 13 Canadian provinces and territories on a 737 (all except PEI...only a Dash 8 there!) including a few 737-200 combis on gravel runways at points like Cambridge Bay and Resolute Bay.
CP's first 737-200s had spacious seating layouts, although almost everybody did in those days. Those used on transcon routes were 12 F and 83 Y. Those used on the B.C./Yukon routes were all-economy with 107 seats at 34 inch pitch.
Skymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 494 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4733 times:
I know that many of the 737-200's (especially Nordair's) had a special klt for rough or gravel runways with nose wheel deflectors and special fittings under the engines. Most useful at some of the remote airstrips they served!
Took off from YHM in a blizzard one morning -- crew thought nothing of it -- was a nice day weather wise compared to the Arctic!
The good old -100/-200 "off roading kit". Basically a fod deflector mounted on the nose gear and a vortex dissipator on the bottom of each engine inlet (just directs bleed air forward and down to stop anything getting sucked in), and I have heard there was also some fancy layer added to the flaps and parts of the lower fuselage to prevent damage from flying rocks.
Still flying with Canadian North and First Air, among others.
Anyone interested in more info as well, I do currently have access to the 737-100/200 MM.
Threepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4632 times:
Well done to the 737-200. A truly fine aircraft. How many of you knew that in the late '80s the type came within a whisper of being converted into firefighting airtankers (low-level trials were conducted in the Chilcotin plateau west of CYWL long before using airliners was pursued in other countries).
Would it surprise you that a 732 deliberately landed (yes, it took off again) at Hope, BC (CYHE) - a turf airstrip measuring 3960 feet long. If you visit the flying club there, you'll see the proof in the pictures on the wall.
The nice thing about a mistake is the pleasure it gives others.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 23180 posts, RR: 23 Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4399 times:
Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 2): And just for fun, a list of past and current Canadian 737 operators: (note: 1. may not be complete, 2. as far as I know all of the below can be found in the a.net database)
I can think of one more. Dome Petroleum took delivery of a new 737-200C combi with the gravel runway equipment in 1980. It carried crews and equipment to drilling sites in the Arctic. It was sold to Pacific Western in 1984 and was part of the Canadian fleet until the AC merger. It's still flying with Canadian North.
The first photo of that aircraft was obviously not long after PWA bought CP Air to form Canadian Airlines as the livery is still basic Dome Petroleum with the PWA tail logo and a Canadian decal.
ZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1942 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4325 times:
Quoting Threepoint (Reply 7): Would it surprise you that a 732 deliberately landed (yes, it took off again) at Hope, BC (CYHE) - a turf airstrip measuring 3960 feet long.
I actually know the guy who was the pilot! He may have been the FO as that was quite a while ago, and hes only 65ish now. He lost his medical a while ago and has since quite commercial flying. He has a picture in his house. I asked the story and was truly amazed!
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 23180 posts, RR: 23 Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4292 times:
Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 8): Quoting Threepoint (Reply 7):
Would it surprise you that a 732 deliberately landed (yes, it took off again) at Hope, BC (CYHE) - a turf airstrip measuring 3960 feet long.
Done by Boeing as part of a promo tour for their new "bush jetliner" was it not?
Reminds me of the TACA 737-300 that glided to a safe emergency landing on a narrow grass-covered levee near MSY in 1988 after both engines flamed out in heavy rain and hail. After engine repairs it was flown off the levee about 2 weeks later. That aircraft is still flying for Southwest. http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19880524-0
Threepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4271 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12): A couple of photos of the 737 on the levee in this thread, the best one in Reply 11.
I've heard of this one. I believe the plane landed on the longer stretch of grass seen in reply #1 of that thread and was subsequently towed to the perpendicular levee. It didn't roll to a stop where it's seen parked in reply #11 - no way.
The nice thing about a mistake is the pleasure it gives others.