MWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 835 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 56729 times:
Right here goes, This is the first time that i'm going to attempt to start a thread here on A.net and I only joined a few hours ago so please go easy on me.
I've been wondering that since the A380 has been in service for over 12 months now and that over 2008 there has been progressively more and more of the worlds largest passenger aircraft in service visiting airports that are almost exclusively populated with larger aircraft i.e. LHR, SIN, SYD, NRT, DXB, JFK so why have we not seen any decent shots to compare the two largest aircraft in one shot
The only thread that I've been able to find that related to is well into a.nets archived now as its over 18 months old now so I thought that I'd ask
I think that this is possibly the best comparison shot that I've seen so far and I had considered this one, not that I could find it when I looked earlier, but still it would be nice to see further shots, in that shot the 747 looks quite a bit smaller that the 380 however many people have commented that in reality it is not that apparent in real life
Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
Charles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1338 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 56498 times:
Quoting MWHCVT (Reply 2): in reality it is not that apparent in real life
Well having seen the A380 twice at LAX it is indeed bigger than a 744, but perhaps in the same vein as a VW Golf is bigger than a VW Polo. Nearly every dimension is larger but the overall difference is not such that will make you drop your jaw.
Having said that, the two things that really impressed me about the A380 were its wingspan and the height of its tail. The tail is so high that you can't quite believe it upon seeing it the first time!
Now I look forward to flying the thing sometime in the not too distant future!
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9404 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 56419 times:
Because the A380 is still a very new.... very rare aircraft at airports worldwide. How many total airframes flying revenue...... maybe 5 or 6.....?? Add to that the actual number of times an A380 has been in close proximity of a B747... and to that it be daylight...and to that have an A.net photographer close by... and to that the photo screener's accept it.
[Edited 2008-10-05 15:26:55]
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
Great shot. Just look at the size difference in the engines!
For me though the A380 seems a bit stumpy! As stated by Charles79, the tail is gigantic and so to is every other aspect, the wing span is huge, but the fuselage seems to out of proportion in a way. From a side on shot its easier to understand what i mean. It would look a bit more attractive if it were a bit longer!
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MWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 835 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 56265 times:
Keesje...Having lurked in the shadows of A.net for a couple of years before taking the plunge and signing up I've always enjoyed reading your posts and viewing the graphics that so often adorn them, thank you taking the time to reply to my post.
I think that this is a wonderful picture that shows the proportions of the airliners excellently
Once I have things worked out I will be adding you and some other members to my Respected Members List
Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
A sincere and hearty Welcome on board. If you are flamed I wish to also extend my apologies for all the flamers lurking out there. Newer members may not have the resources to go through all the previous posts at A.net, or be as familiar with the search function yet.
Keesje, thank you for the composite photograph. Just from this picture the technology leap in the engines is evident, they are huge.
B727LVR From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 56119 times:
Both ACFT are impressive in their own ways. Having to get to work on all the 747 series i am still in awe of the 747. I may be biased, haha. I would love to see the A380 in person so I may have the chance to eat my words. What I am really curious about is the reliability of the A380. The 747 has been a good work horse for those who fly it. I know its still pretty new, and haven't heard many complaints, but it is still fun to look at!
I'm like a kid in a candy store when it comes to planes!
Welcome from another relative new A,Netter albeit on the other side of the world. Yes, it is a little nerve wracking to say the least to commence your first thread however I have found in my short time that 99% of A.netters respect you for who you are, and what you are.
Keesje, your photos put it all into perspective, thank you for that. I have had the pleasure over the last week watching the QF A380 land at Tullamarine (Melbourne) and also numerous 747's.
From a side on view I felt the A380 was stumpy looking and dare I say it, quite "pregnant", as compared to the Queen of the skies (as borne out by N14AZ side on photos). I can tell you, you know when the A380 is in town, from afar the tail is a dead giveaway, it is huge!! As I said in another thread, the A380 will look more gracefull when, in years to come, it is stretched. When you get the chance to see the A380 in the flesh, the engine sounds are astonishing....It is so quiet......I call it the "whisper jet"....believe me it is that quiet.
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StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5888 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 55080 times:
This rather poor composite gives some idea of the difference(and similarity) in size.
The two shots were taken approx 2 minutes apart at slightly different focal lengths but the images were scaled so the control tower lined up, comparison may not be exact but is pretty close (tail is about the right amount higher)
Also apologies for the quality, the date was occasion of SQ first A380 flight from SYD and was a terrible day weather wise, photos taken after 6PM at ISO 640 F5.6
If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
Airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 9712 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 53047 times:
So in summary, lengthwise the two are about the same but the A380's wingspan and tail are much greater. That makes sense because the current A380 is actually a shortened version of the "real" A380 [-900].
Aircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 52785 times:
Quoting Toni_ (Reply 14): Wow, talking about how to make the Queen of the Sky look even more beautiful and elegant!!!
I agree on this one... Head on, as in Keesje's pictures, the A380's wing really has something for it, but, from the lower rear side... Let's say the 747 has some kind onf elegance, whereas the A380... is "only" impressive.
AA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1388 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 52714 times:
Quoting Danfearn77 (Reply 6): Great shot. Just look at the size difference in the engines!
I agree that there is certainly a major difference in engine size. I was also amazed by the growth seen on the A380. It is, however, important to note that BA uses RR RB211s on their 744s, which I believe are the smallest diameter engines available on the aircraft. There is no doubt the A380 engines are much larger, but I just thought it would be important to remember that the PW and GE offerings are slightly larger in diameter.
Lexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2552 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 52309 times:
Quoting Charles79 (Reply 3): Having said that, the two things that really impressed me about the A380 were its wingspan and the height of its tail. The tail is so high that you can't quite believe it upon seeing it the first time!
Having seen the A380 up close and personal myself, I would agree. I've been on 747's and I've been on the A380 and really the size isn't that huge up close to the 380. That's not to say the plane isn't big because it's huge! But it's just not something that drawrfs the 747 like some would believe. To be honest the A380 is bigger than a 747 no doubt, but their size isn't off by a whole lot.
The parts that really stick out on the A380 are the wings, engines, tail, and interior. The wings and tail are just ridiculously long/wide and tall respectively!
Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 52138 times:
Quoting Swallow (Reply 19): Very true. It is unbelievably quiet for its size. I believe that is partly due to the swept back fan blade design of the Trent 900. It is a joy to watch the engine spool up.