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JAL Takes Delivery Of First E-170  
User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5426 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...takes-delivery-of-first-e-170.html

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Japan Airlines (JAL) has taken delivery of its first Embraer 170 regional jet and will be putting it into service early next year after carrying out crew training for several months.

Five months crew training for E-170 sounds pretty long.

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5421 times:

Great to see more airlines getting this wonderful A/C. Looks good in their livery also.

User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5228 times:

Great looking airplane!
I'm already looking forward to Airbuseric his first tripreport about this beauty!



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5158 times:

Photo seems to have been removed, flightglobal have this annoying habit of doing so after a while, any other sources for pic?

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31060 posts, RR: 87
Reply 4, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5154 times:
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The plane looks pretty sharp in their colors.

User currently offlineTonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1441 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

Now I am not a fan of the rather bland corporate Identity of JAL but I must admit, that is one sexy looking tube on wings!


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

Where is the photo can anyone tell me?

User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2961 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4931 times:



Quoting Aviationbuff (Thread starter):
Five months crew training for E-170 sounds pretty long.

Unfortunately or fortunately, that's how things are done at JL - it takes a long time.
It took about 4 months for the 738 to enter service from delivery.
Imagine how long it will take for the 787.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11440 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4894 times:
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Well, i bring this pic from my Friend Fabio Laranjeira.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/manaus/Aviacao/E170JAL_1.jpg



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 4826 times:

JAL E170 looks absolutely great! Overall E170 is my favourite regional, such a beauty.


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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (5 years 12 months 22 hours ago) and read 4733 times:
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Too bad the E170 probably doesn't carry enough fuel to make it to HNL with the required reserves. I would have been able to see it if it came here.

User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8552 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (5 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 4693 times:
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Nice looking bird!

EIS does seem rather a long time, that's some serious training going on!

Hope to be in Japan on a spotting jolly in February, might get to see her  Smile



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User currently offlineMCOGVADCA From China, joined Oct 2006, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 4609 times:

Any ideas on which routes the E-170 will be deployed?

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Looks good in their livery also.

Agreed.



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4271 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (5 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 4596 times:



Quoting DALCE (Reply 2):
I'm already looking forward to Airbuseric his first tripreport about this beauty!

Joost, maybe in a few months indeed  Wink I'll check her schedules when she comes in service.



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User currently offlineTeme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 4521 times:
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That bird looks nice on the JL paint  Wink I wish that AY would had the winglets painted like they have them on the 75W ...


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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2961 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4295 times:



Quoting MCOGVADCA (Reply 12):
Any ideas on which routes the E-170 will be deployed?

JL has yet to announce any info on where the E170 will be used.
There was a rumor that some will be based out of Nagoya Komaki but there will have to be a revision in its scheduled flight operating conditions as that airport is limited to aircraft with 56 seats or less.

I and many other Hiroshimans hope for a HIW-HND when the new runway is up and running.


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4157 times:



Quoting Ha763 (Reply 10):
Too bad the E170 probably doesn't carry enough fuel to make it to HNL with the required reserves. I would have been able to see it if it came here.

Does anyone know how these JAL ERJ170s are flown from Brazil to Japan? What is the delivery routing? Can they be re-routed to CUR just as how we receive VS Blue ERJs (which also fly to Australia via Japan)?

A388


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6483 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4135 times:



Quoting Ha763 (Reply 10):
Too bad the E170 probably doesn't carry enough fuel to make it to HNL with the required reserves. I would have been able to see it if it came here.

I

I is a nice looking aircraft, but I don't think tjhat it would be a very economical aircraft to operate to HNL with only 60-70 seats even if it could carry enough fuel.


User currently offlineAvalon2862 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4126 times:



Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 17):

I think he just meant seeing it in HNL on the delivery flight  Smile


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4068 times:



Quoting Avalon2862 (Reply 18):
Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 17):


I think he just meant seeing it in HNL on the delivery flight

That's what I thought too which is why I asked about a potential delivery routing via CUR as well.

A388


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4010 times:

The Virgin Blue ERJ-170/190 delivery flights transit through either Maui or Kona from California, using their registration as the flight coding.

I know the question was posed of delivery flight routing ...
Does anyone know what flight number JAL / J-Air is using for the delivery flights?



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4003 times:



Quoting Bluewave 707 (Reply 20):
The Virgin Blue ERJ-170/190 delivery flights transit through either Maui or Kona from California, using their registration as the flight coding.

Yes, and before reaching California they all transit through CUR. I am wondering whether more Asian airlines can do such delivery routings. Let me know!

A388 Big grin


User currently offlineBuzz100ca From United States of America, joined May 2007, 89 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3911 times:

Here's hoping for a sighting in SJC!

User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3878 times:



Quoting Buzz100ca (Reply 22):
Here's hoping for a sighting in SJC!

AND a sighting in CUR!!!!

A388 Big grin


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2961 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3860 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 16):
Does anyone know how these JAL ERJ170s are flown from Brazil to Japan? What is the delivery routing? Can they be re-routed to CUR just as how we receive VS Blue ERJs (which also fly to Australia via Japan)?

A few of the DJ Embraers, mostly E70s, have flown on the transpacific polar flight via Japan.
It is possible that the JL birds could be flown this way or flown eastbound. Like Brazil-DKR-across Africa, across Middle East-India-BKK-TPE/MNL-Japan.


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 25, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3750 times:



Quoting Carpethead (Reply 24):
A few of the DJ Embraers, mostly E70s, have flown on the transpacific polar flight via Japan.
It is possible that the JL birds could be flown this way or flown eastbound. Like Brazil-DKR-across Africa, across Middle East-India-BKK-TPE/MNL-Japan.

All except maybe a few ERJ's (mainly ERJ170s) of VS Blue have flown via CUR on their delivery flights. The routing via Japan as you mention, also stops in CUR before continuing to the U.S. and Japan onto Australia. See my photo below:



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The last ERJ170 for VS Blue will indeed be flown via Africa and the Middle East. I am only wondering if JL can or will also route a few ERJ's via CUR similar in routing as mentioned in my photo remarks. Please let me know if you have more information for me on the delivery routings.

Best regards,

A388


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