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American To Switch To A-La-Carte Pricing  
User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3354 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10379 times:

In an effort to further blur the line between a "full service" carrier and a ULCC that nickel-and-dimes you to death (such as Spirit), American Airlines has announced plans to switch to an a-la-carte pricing structure next year.

Quote:
Starting next year, American, which led a stampede by U.S. carriers to charge customers for checking even a single suitcase, plans to imitate the a la carte pricing structure pioneered by Air Canada, airline officials say. There are likely to be a few basic fare plans, and travelers can pick additional services -- for a fee.

Article here: http://www.mcall.com/business/local/...uote-a.6616628oct06,0,266860.story

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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23019 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10307 times:

I don't mind unbundling when I'm buying my own travel.

When it's business travel and I'm putting everything on an expense report, however, it's a real pain and I try to avoid it.

9 times out of 10, that means that an airline that has unbundled is just as likely to get my low-yield travel but less likely to get my high yield travel. I don't know how many others are like me, but if we're a large group, it seems like a poor business plan.



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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10218 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):
In an effort to further blur the line between a "full service" carrier and a ULCC that nickel-and-dimes you to death (such as Spirit), American Airlines has announced plans to switch to an a-la-carte pricing structure next year.

Considering how well it has worked for Air Canada, it may be just as successful for AA. I guess we'll have to wait and see.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11635 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10188 times:



Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 2):
Considering how well it has worked for Air Canada, it may be just as successful for AA. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

My thought as well.

It can go either way, and there is definitely a reasonable and defensible argument to be made that American consumers behave differently and will respond differently to this sort of pricing than, say, Canadian customers.

However, that being said, I think there is potential for this to end up working and begin generating higher revenues for AA and simultaneously increasing customer satisfaction by introducing a new level of transparency and fare/product customization.

I could see 5 fares: First, Business (where applicable), FlexFare (Y/B), SuperSAAverPlus (discount Y), and SuperSAAver (deep discount Y).

The success or failure will, of course, rest in the execution - and depend on how the entire thing is structured. If AA builds a strong interface for the AA.com distribution channel, and then finds a way to harmonize other non-AA-controlled channels, it may work. We'll see.

One thing seems certain: if this works at AA, and AA is able to begin generating higher relative unit revenues versus competitors, I think this will become an industry norm among the legacies in a matter of 18-24 months. If, on the other hand, it fails, AA will likely drop it within 9-12 months, if not sooner.


User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10139 times:

I have never tried the AC system but if AA mimics it then it would make sense. Have a full fare inclusive of everything (including being refundable) and a base fare to which you can add luggage, meals, beverages, blankets, headphones and select a seat. Note that other than the seat selection and luggage the airline will allow the passenger to bring his or her own headphones, food, and drinks, giving the passenger greater flexibility. Another idea I would tinker with is an extra that makes a ticket changeable (i.e. change date/time of flight) but not quite refundable, and allow a window of up to 5 days within which to use the ticket (subject to availability, of course).

One benefit of charging for seat selection is that it eases the argument when someone wants to trade seats with you (or worse, blatantly seats on your seat and refuses to move). Now you can say "sorry pal, but I PAID for this seat. Move it!".


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11635 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9954 times:

I could see something like this:

First
. Complimentary lounge access (Flagship Lounge/Admirals Club) on transcontinental/intercontinental flights
. Fully refundable (with no change fee)
. Advanced seat selection
. Access to premium check-in counters and security lanes
. 150% elite-qualifying miles/points of actual miles flown
. Complimentary changes in advance or on day of flight
. Complimentary same-day standby
. Complimentary meals/entertainment onboard

Business
. Complimentary lounge access (Admirals Club) on transcontinental/intercontinental flights
. Fully refundable (with no change fee)
. Fully upgradable to F when available (with applicable miles, stickers, co-pay, etc.)
. Advanced seat selection
. Access to premium check-in counters and security lanes
. 125% elite-qualifying miles/points of actual miles flown
. 150% elite-qualifying points of actual miles flown
. Complimentary changes in advance or on day of flight
. Complimentary same-day standby
. Complimentary meals/entertainment onboard

FlexFare (Full-Fare Economy)
. Admirals Club access on day of flight for $30/passenger
. Fully refundable (with no change fee)
. Fully upgradable when available (with applicable miles, stickers, co-pay, etc.)
. Advanced seat selection
. 100% elite-qualifying miles/points of actual miles flown
. 125% elite-qualifying points of actual miles flown
. Complimentary changes in advance or on day of flight
. Complimentary same-day standby
. Meals for purchase in Main Cabin on domestic flights

SuperSAAver Plus (Discount Economy)
. Admirals Club access on day of flight for $40/passenger
. Fully refundable (with $25 change fee/passenger)
. Upgradable with restrictions (with applicable miles, stickers, co-pay, etc.)
. Advanced seat selection
. 100% elite-qualifying miles/points of actual miles flown
. 100% elite-qualifying points of actual miles flown
. Changes in advance for $15 or on day of flight for $25
. Complimentary same-day standby
. Meals for purchase in Main Cabin on domestic flights

SuperSAAver (Deep-Discount Economy)
. Admirals Club access on day of flight for $50/passenger
. Fully refundable (with $25 change fee/passenger)
. Not upgradable (except for AAdvantage elites, with applicable miles, stickers, co-pay, etc.)
. Advanced seat selection (for $10/passenger)
. 100% elite-qualifying miles/points of actual miles flown
. 50% elite-qualifying points of actual miles flown
. Changes in advance for $25 or on day of flight for $50
. Same-day standby for $25/passenger
. Meals for purchase in Main Cabin on domestic flights


User currently offlineFlyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9859 times:

Here is an OLD article, but very relevant to the current situation:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,975387-1,00.html



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9812 times:

I hate to say it, but if US Airways was the one to start this, everyone would have had a field day..

Honestly I think airlines are really taking this too far, I suppose the days of air travel as we know it is changed forever. One more thing, if AA wants mimic AC, they need to upgrade the servicies available on their airplanes, start by working on the IFE. If I am distracted by good IFE during the flight, I am not likely to worry too much about catering etc. Whats more, I usually stock up in the nearest Hudson News before boarding.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23019 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9710 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 3):
I could see 5 fares: First, Business (where applicable), FlexFare (Y/B), SuperSAAverPlus (discount Y), and SuperSAAver (deep discount Y).

Interestingly, AA already has the website architecture in place to do just this (the search by price/schedule feature). It's currently far easier to buy a ticket in a higher fare bucket on AA than on most other carriers--in fact, it looks a lot like AC's current interface.



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User currently offlineKingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1306 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9584 times:

AA is waiting until next year, but the concept will be adopted by another major airline within 30 days. I believe this will be the new trend.


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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11635 posts, RR: 61
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9474 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):
It's currently far easier to buy a ticket in a higher fare bucket on AA than on most other carriers--in fact, it looks a lot like AC's current interface.

I believe that change in the AA.com booking interface was insituted specifically with this sort of "a la carte pricing" model in mind. The technological requirement that has held back this change for so long has been the system architecture of AA's reservations backbone: SABRE. It's one big bowl of 1960s-era spaghetti and incredibly complex code. The flipside of that, however, is that it is also about the most stable, robust thing there is: built like a rock.

Quoting KingCavalier (Reply 9):
AA is waiting until next year, but the concept will be adopted by another major airline within 30 days. I believe this will be the new trend.

Interesting. Any guesses which airline will be doing this within 30 days?


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23019 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9421 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 10):
I believe that change in the AA.com booking interface was insituted specifically with this sort of "a la carte pricing" model in mind.

I sort of guessed that (which was one of the reasons I wasn't terribly surprised to wake up this morning to this news).



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7615 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9391 times:

This really isnt a bad idea in theory as long as it doesnt penalize the Elites from what they currently have. Its too bad they dont have any details. I would love to see what AA has in mind by this.


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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11635 posts, RR: 61
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9358 times:



Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 12):
Its too bad they dont have any details

It may be too early yet: after all, this was a news article from the AP, not a press release from AA itself.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 12):
I would love to see what AA has in mind by this.

If they plan on rolling this out soon after the new year, I'd expect that we'll start to see some details begin to trickle out within the next month or two.


User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5237 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9287 times:

What about elites who travel on discounted fares. Will they get some perks for free that otherw will have to pay? It doesn't make sense to let a road warrior who may be flying on full or less-discounted fares for business, then nickel-and-dime the road warrior and his family on a vacation, whether to Europe, Disney World, or grandma's house in Kansas City.

User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5237 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9265 times:

I could see a lot of companies, in these troubled times, making employees book the cheapest ticket and then declining some add ons for expense accounts. My wife's employer won't pay for checking a second bag, unless the employee is taking a lot of company stuff and gets advance approval from a superior.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23019 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9246 times:



Quoting Ckfred (Reply 15):
I could see a lot of companies, in these troubled times, making employees book the cheapest ticket and then declining some add ons for expense accounts.

I've traveled on a lot of different expense policies in the past couple of months, and (so far) no one has blinked at additional fees. For me, it's more then pain in the @$$ factor of documenting $5 here and $10 there-- and so far, there haven't been enough fees to make most of that documentation worth my time (and, as I said, where I have claimed the expenses, they've been paid).



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User currently offlinePanova98 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9178 times:

Pardon my skepticism about anything new in the area of pricing in this wacko industry. People that have come up with air fare pricing, particularly as they have used "yield/revenue management," don't receive much favor from me.

Any airline has to first define what its service is that it is marketing, and then describe it to the buyer, in clear terms. This is where most airlines fail so terribly, save Southwest.

Basically, I would like to see the service defined in terms of the city-points the service will be provided, whether any particular seat is going to be reserved, whether any food and drink is going to be provided, and whether any baggage handling is going to be provided in that service. Any passenger should be able to buy the ticket at the fare without paying one dime more. Should the passenger want a different reservation service, ticketing, payment processing, change of ticket, refunds, frequent flyer miles, extra or outsized bag handling service from what is included in the basic fare for the basic service, expect to pay for it, but it would have no effect on the fare.

Basically, on a two-class airplane, there should only be two fares between any two points. Those fares most assuredly would change minute-by-minute, based on supply and demand, but so be it. But, anyone should be able to buy a ticket at that fare, at that minute, with no other fee involved. Everything else is a matter of convenience that you should expect to pay however the airline wants to handle it.

There would be no such thing as a super-duper discount fare. Maybe a super-duper sale, but a fare is a fare is a fare, whatever level it is.

The whole process of pricing and selling a simple airline ticket has gotten just nuts, totally unnecessarily so!


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11635 posts, RR: 61
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9125 times:



Quoting Ckfred (Reply 14):
What about elites who travel on discounted fares. Will they get some perks for free that otherw will have to pay?

I find it almost inconceivable that AA would subject their top-tier elites to a new a la carte pricing model and not give them waives on these fees due to their status. Alas - that is what AA has done in many if not most cases over the last few years as they have instituted more and more fees: elites have largely been exempted from them. And since AA's reservations system and the AA.com infrastructure can already handle customized screens and booking channels based on the status of the AAdvantage member logged in, I don't really see it being all that difficult for AA.com to simply exempt AAdvantage members from the a la carte pricing options displayed on the screens of mere mortals like me.

Quoting Panova98 (Reply 17):
But, anyone should be able to buy a ticket at that fare, at that minute, with no other fee involved. Everything else is a matter of convenience that you should expect to pay however the airline wants to handle it.

Some might argue that what you are describing is fundamentally an antiquated pricing model, and that the today the best way to deliver true value to customers is to let them customize the price of the product they purchase to the fullest extent possible with technology.

The concept is rather simple and intuitive, and in my mind at least, actually rather appealing: you want more service, you pay more, and if you want less service, you pay less.

Again, though, I think the real opportunity AA has to screw this up, though, is in the execution. If the interface is bad, or the rules and prices not clear, or the entire process not adequately explained to customers, it will fail.

Quoting Panova98 (Reply 17):
The whole process of pricing and selling a simple airline ticket has gotten just nuts, totally unnecessarily so!

I see your point - I truly do.

On the other hand, though, I can also understand how some might say that this hypothetical a la carte system (a la Air Canada) is actually less nuts because it actually delivers a new level of transparency and customization that customers have never before been able to experience at the point of sale.


User currently offlineSkyman05 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9127 times:

Speaking of a-la-carte! I was reading a book on a flight two days ago, JFK-LAX, and the flight attendants on board were all over it! They had heard about this throughout the Airline and wanted to know how to get the book "Paper Airplanes". I explained that i picked it up on Amazon.com. Wow were they going crazy, an airline pilot friend told me about it and its an amazing read! The author is an active pilot for American and although my friend said that the names were changed it wouldn't take long to find out what airline it is really about! And the Flight attendants on that AA flight confirmed that! The book is based on a true story and again all of the crew came by to say it was true! WOW! I had to tighten my seat belt while reading this book! Maybe this should be available for sale on board also?

User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7615 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9117 times:



Quoting Ckfred (Reply 14):
What about elites who travel on discounted fares. Will they get some perks for free that otherw will have to pay?

You read my mind. This was exactly what I was wondering myself. I would definately imagine so. Im AAdvantage Platinum myself and thats the biggest thing on my mind.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 13):
If they plan on rolling this out soon after the new year, I'd expect that we'll start to see some details begin to trickle out within the next month or two.

Fair enough.



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8982 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 1):
I don't mind unbundling when I'm buying my own travel.

When it's business travel and I'm putting everything on an expense report, however, it's a real pain and I try to avoid it.

Fair enough and somewhat understandable, but what you're saying in effect is that when someone else is paying it's no holds barred. Not directed at yourself but it vindicates what I've repeatedly said; that so much complaining and whinging on a.net about charges, fees etc only seems to be 'wrong' when the said members actually have to pay for something themselves.
Entirely different when costs are actually coming out of the travallers own pocket!

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 14):
What about elites who travel on discounted fares. Will they get some perks for free that otherw will have to pay? It doesn't make sense to let a road warrior who may be flying on full or less-discounted fares for business, then nickel-and-dime the road warrior and his family on a vacation, whether to Europe, Disney World, or grandma's house in Kansas City.

I would vehemently disagree with that indeed, and they most certainly should not. If the 'road-warrior' in your description wants the same perks as business travellers whilst on holiday, then he should paying for that ticket type. If he wants a cheaper fare (see my first reply above) then he should be accepting/paying any fees/charges/restrictions associated with it. You seem to want this 'road-warrior' to have the best of both worlds......full perks on a discounted ticket just because he doesn't want to pay the correct fare. How is that either correct, or fair to all passengers?


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 44
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8950 times:



Quoting KingCavalier (Reply 9):
AA is waiting until next year, but the concept will be adopted by another major airline within 30 days. I believe this will be the new trend.

Very true. Definitely will be the new trend...



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User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8907 times:



Quoting Panova98 (Reply 17):
Basically, I would like to see the service defined in terms of the city-points the service will be provided, whether any particular seat is going to be reserved, whether any food and drink is going to be provided, and whether any baggage handling is going to be provided in that service. Any passenger should be able to buy the ticket at the fare without paying one dime more. Should the passenger want a different reservation service, ticketing, payment processing, change of ticket, refunds, frequent flyer miles, extra or outsized bag handling service from what is included in the basic fare for the basic service, expect to pay for it, but it would have no effect on the fare.

Basically, on a two-class airplane, there should only be two fares between any two points. Those fares most assuredly would change minute-by-minute, based on supply and demand, but so be it. But, anyone should be able to buy a ticket at that fare, at that minute, with no other fee involved. Everything else is a matter of convenience that you should expect to pay however the airline wants to handle it.

There would be no such thing as a super-duper discount fare. Maybe a super-duper sale, but a fare is a fare is a fare, whatever level it is.

The whole process of pricing and selling a simple airline ticket has gotten just nuts, totally unnecessarily so!

The airlines have seen their cost structures skyrocket (read: fuel prices) and their earnings/revenues plummet to the ground. Many are bleeding cash, some have gone out of business, others are close. Airlines are in survival mode, they can't get fancy with marketing and getting messages across. They aren't necessarily competing against each other, as much as they are competing with themselves. People are not flying as much anymore, and those who do are looking for value and price.
Personally, I choose AA because I like their route system, their personnel, and their safety record. Despite their troubles, they are staying afloat, and I will choose to support them for this. If they need to charge me for luggage, so be it, as long as they can survive.
If this is inconvenient for some, they need to stop flying. This is a trend that is not going to stop. If fuel suddenly goes to $20/barrel, I don't believe that airlines will suddenly resume the old levels of service, at least not to the degree we had before.

FLY2LIM



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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5237 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8880 times:

It's still ironic that while the airlines nickel-and-dime us to death, the hotels and car rental companies don't do it anywhere near the extent that the airlines do.

Neither one charges for talking to a live person when making a reservation.

The hotels are in an all-out war to have the best mattresses and bedding. The last time I was in a hotel that didn't have an iron and ironing board was a tiny boutique hotel in Vancouver, BC 6 years ago.

The strangest one is that hotels like Hyatt, Marriott, and Hilton charge for in-room Wi-Fi, while Springhill Suites, Hampton Inn, and Holiday Inn Express offer free Wi-Fi, as well as a free hot breakfast.

Do hotels charge for every time you use the pool or the exercise room? I know that some hotels have resort fees, but the typical, moderately-priced hotel doesn't.


25 Captaink : The problem is that fares haven't gone down, nor have they remained the same. I was searching for a ticket the other day to New York, fares are quite
26 Airbazar : AC has virtually no competiton in Canada. They can do and charge whatever they want. As usual, this will only succeed for AA if others follow. Person
27 Tommy767 : I think Flex FAARE pax should have free BOB products included in the price. It's a lot of money for full fare, might as well get something guaranteed
28 Cubsrule : I'm afraid you've missed my point. When I'm traveling for myself-- and the $15 for checking a bag comes out of my pocket regardless of whether I (eff
29 Stitch : The "full-service" hotels charge for each of those services because their primary clientele are business travelers with both per diems and expense ac
30 TOLtommy : I'd suggest that you jump on AirCanada.com, and start booking a flight. Their set up on the website is slick. It's very clear what you do or don't ge
31 Cubsrule : That assumes, of course, that expense policies will continue to allow us to do so. One other thing to keep in mind is that most of what I've discusse
32 Lambert747 : AA has to big of a system to leave things as is. There are only certain routes in the AA system that command any fare AA charges, the balance are rou
33 PSA727 : Yes, but the variances in rates paid by guests is much narrower than the variances in fares paid by passengers. If every passenger were paying close
34 KingCavalier : That's true and it doesn't sound too fair, does it? For a $500 fare you should get those extras as part of your fare (checked bags, FF miles, meal, p
35 Lambert747 : It is called survival, and every airline is trying to find a way to do it..
36 AirportGuy1971 : If I were to guess, I guess I'd look for an airline being led by a former AC executive, that uses the Sabre reservation system. 30 days would be abou
37 KingCavalier : There's been many mentions of Air Canada's a la carte pricing so I took some time and booked a YVR-YYZ flight on January 15, 2009. There are 4 fare op
38 Stitch : I see no reason why they wouldn't.
39 Viscount724 : WestJet, with almost 80 737NGs in service, would probably disagree.
40 Cubsrule : As you can probably tell from my profile (I'm 22), I don't have a huge amount of experience with expense accounts, but my sense is that many of the f
41 Lambert747 : As would Air Transat..
42 Par13del : My questions, if this is similar to the old practise of closing off a set number of seats, it will only work if pax are forced to use it. 1. AA sets i
43 Panova98 : I truly believe the chasm between airline pricing people and the average person buying an airline ticket is wider and deeper than the Grand Canyon! Fa
44 Cubsrule : Aren't you contradicting yourself? You seemingly indict price discrimination based on certain factors but endorse price discrimination based on time
45 Par13del : My take is that he was just saying the date and time of travel as in what is listed on a boarding pass. I happen to agree, they basic fare needs to b
46 LAXdude1023 : I wonder what the fate of FF milage accrual would be under this system.
47 Sebring : The three most salient aspects of AC's system - and where it differs from all but LCCs like JetBlue - is that all pricing is one-way, and doesn't requ
48 Cubsrule : Most (all?) AA fares do not require a round trip purchase these days, especially those in markets with LCC competition.
49 AWACSooner : Yah...United. It's a three horse race to the bottom between AA, US and UA. As far as I'm concerned, they can all go under...
50 LAXdude1023 : First off, this isnt a bad move. There isnt anything wrong with having people pay for what they use and not pay for what they dont, while at the same
51 KingCavalier : Steve, It's a good thing you're not concerned with the livelihood of thousands and thousands of jobs. Please respect the good folks who work hard at
52 American 767 : I think that only non elite members should be charged for food and alcoholic beverages in the main cabin, this should be free of charge for Gold, Pla
53 Ckfred : Well, I have lifetime Gold status on AA. So, if I'm flying on an ultra-cheap ticket, I get the same perks as if I paid full fare. In fact, my wife, w
54 MAH4546 : The Admiral's Clubs are crowded enough as is, especially since an American Express Platinum is all you need to get in now (not that I'm complaining a
55 Cubsrule : When UA manages a full drink service (for free, for now) on 40-60 minute flights ex-ORD (i.e. DTW, STL, MSP), that puts AA at a competitive disadvant
56 AWACSooner : I am, believe me, I am. I know lots of folks who work at AA and UA. But the fact that their bosses are making and have made pathetic management decis
57 FLY2LIM : I am no financial wizard, but the current structure of airlines presumed that oil was somewhere around 30-40 dollars/barrel, but it went as high as 1
58 PSA727 : That's not what I'm talking about. How many people are paying $99 for their room the same night you're paying $199? It's called demand. Fares to Flor
59 Cubsrule : If that's true, why haven't free drinks already disappeared at UA?
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Eagle EMJ On The Way To Ruston, LA! posted Fri Nov 2 2007 09:20:15 by DFW13L
American Eagle To Samana, D.R., Plus AA JFK-MCO posted Mon Aug 20 2007 15:04:44 by Commavia
American Eagle To Resume MIA-SRQ Service posted Sun Aug 12 2007 00:11:13 by MAH4546
American Eagle To Resume MIA-SAV posted Sat Aug 11 2007 23:49:27 by MAH4546