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User currently offlineOswegobag From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4752 times:

Is there any information out there about Delta non-rev seat availability? I have started to create a spreadsheet of the seat availability from 30 days before the flight to the day of the flight. With the spreadsheet I am hoping to predict, 30 days out, if there will be open seats on international flights I frequently fly. Please give your feedback. Do you think this is a waste of my time or do you think I can possibly predict seat availability?

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User currently offlineImapilotaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4740 times:



Quoting Oswegobag (Thread starter):
Is there any information out there about Delta non-rev seat availability? I have started to create a spreadsheet of the seat availability from 30 days before the flight to the day of the flight. With the spreadsheet I am hoping to predict, 30 days out, if there will be open seats on international flights I frequently fly. Please give your feedback. Do you think this is a waste of my time or do you think I can possibly predict seat availability?

In a very rudimentary sense, yes it could work. In a true YM fashion? No, it will be a giant waste of time. Without a siginficant amount of history for a flight, there is no way to know the booking velocity of any flight, and therefore you could be thrown off by relatively slow bookings for the next 27 days, only to be surprised on day 28. Every market and every flight behave differently, and watching only 1 of them for the next 30 days will tell you virtually nothing. A single group or blip due to an event, schedule change, etc will throw your unscientific experiment out the window.


User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10512 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4664 times:

In addition, without knowledge of last minute interline purchases, it is very difficult to predict in advance, even with historical knowledge of flights. In other words, it's a tremendous waste of time.

One other thing........if you're not a DL employee, there's no way for you to get this info, unless an employee gives it to you. If they do, they shouldn't be.



The only other way to get this kind of info is on Delta.com and I'm not sure that will help you. Non-revs don't normally list for a flight until a week before departure and without you knowing who is listed and how many are listed, you're kind of in the dark, also. Also, DL's listings don't show the priority of the non-rev until the day they check in at the airport, so you're messed up there, too.



"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4586 times:



Quoting Oswegobag (Thread starter):
With the spreadsheet I am hoping to predict, 30 days out, if there will be open seats on international flights I frequently fly. Please give your feedback

This won't work.

30 days is not a long enough period.


User currently offlinePBIflyguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 248 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

I have an even BETTER project for you.......... balance my checkbook! ( KIDDING )

Sounds like a neat research project, but there are too many variables, some of which have been posted above, and as was pointed out, it's restricted info.

Other things to consider, you could "predict" availablity, but what are ya gonna do if the flight the night before goes MX and gets cancelled ? or a smaller aircraft is subbed in? Those displaced PAX have to go somewhere, and that somewhere is most likely the next flight out. Given the low frequency of most TATL flights - well, you do the math.

If you do it, please post your findings.

FlySafe


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2100 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4425 times:

I think it's a waste of your time. If you're an employee, then what's the point? Updated info is available to you daily. If you're a buddy pass rider, then just ask the employee for the info. You could stress out and drive yourself nuts looking at this stuff daily anyway.

User currently offlineXdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 664 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4376 times:



Quoting Oswegobag (Thread starter):

The NRSA probability index! ... a noble concept!

Airline reservation systems have come a long way, they now can offer multiple date choices
according to flexibility of the consumer. In addition to that fact they can also offer multiple
cities within a distance range from the prefered O&D of the consumer.
Bottom line, the NRSA game is more difficult today than ever, but the fundamentals are the
same as ever... You only get on if there are empty seats.... and frankly airlines work very diligently at avoiding that happening.

Good luck!


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