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Skyeurope- The End Is Near..  
User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15022 times:

..after the decision by York Capitals to dis-engage their investment in the Slovak airline.
Bank Rothschild has invited potential bidders to come forward by thursday - they would have to re-inject another 70M € to make the airline break even..
http://www.boerse-express.com/pages/707310


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14997 times:

Shame. Used to enjoy seeing them at STN for variety's sake, liked their colours too.


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User currently offlineMillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1270 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14880 times:

When the market is as difficult as it is and liquidity is scarce I suspect this is the end for SkyEurope.

A pity they were a nice outfit.
If rumours are to be believed they will soon be followed by another European lowcost airline. At least if the hiring of an investment banker is a sign.
That airline also uses new boeings by the way.



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User currently offlineSyeaphanR From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14865 times:
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Sad...They're a nice bunch to fly with! They also serve one or two places like Poprad and Kosice that literally have no other scheduled options. Well-filled on those runs, too!

Any idea how fast they'll shut down, if no white knight emerges (!) ???  Confused


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14779 times:

Looks like Michael O'Leary could be right after all...


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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14745 times:

Shame. I heard good things about them and their colours are nice, especially with he 737 winglets.

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 4):
Looks like Michael O'Leary could be right after all...

Well he said "I give them two weeks" but that was two months ago so he was a little off.  Wink


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14687 times:



Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 4):
Looks like Michael O'Leary could be right after all...

Yeah great, good on him.....  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineUsdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 979 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14589 times:

Is this the Sun Country of Europe? I'm not sure flying brand new aircraft for people paying rock-bottom prices ensures profitability. This just goes to show that demand is limited and if there are not enough high-paying passengers or if the airline is not earning enough from peripheral products, it is not possible to support those buying cheap tickets.

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14513 times:



Quoting Usdcaguy (Reply 7):
Is this the Sun Country of Europe? I'm not sure flying brand new aircraft for people paying rock-bottom prices ensures profitability



Quoting Usdcaguy (Reply 7):
it is not possible to support those buying cheap tickets.

I think Michael O'Leary would disagree with you there.



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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 14251 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 8):


Quoting Usdcaguy (Reply 7):
Is this the Sun Country of Europe? I'm not sure flying brand new aircraft for people paying rock-bottom prices ensures profitability



Quoting Usdcaguy (Reply 7):
it is not possible to support those buying cheap tickets.

I think Michael O'Leary would disagree with you there.

Or Southwest airlines either  Wink


User currently offlineREALDEAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 14224 times:

so what's the SkyEurope fleet consist of ?

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12523 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 14186 times:



Quoting Usdcaguy (Reply 7):
I'm not sure flying brand new aircraft for people paying rock-bottom prices ensures profitability.

Well, FR does a pretty good job of it (as indeed does WN in the US) ... I guess the problem is that you can't sell all the seats at rock bottom, so you have to be in markets where there is enough traffic willing to pay a premium; as well as the "back end of nowhere" bases and markets, FR still has some high yielding markets too, whereas most of SkyEurope's markets - primarily Slovakia - are problem still too poor to sustain such a large operation.

I would be very sorry to see SkyEurope fail, but having said that, even if it got its sums wrong, it has proven that there is demand in those markets it serves and hopefully the likes of Wizz, Easyjet or FR can fill the void.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14030 times:



Quoting REALDEAL (Reply 10):
so what's the SkyEurope fleet consist of ?

737s



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User currently offlineAlespesl From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2004, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13978 times:

I am flying with NE OCT 10 PRG-KSC and OCT 12 KSC-PRG with my g/f.

I hope i will still complete my trip.

However, her parents are coming for a short visit to Prague and flying OCT 24 KSC-PRG and OCT 27 PRG-KSC.

Actually they have suppose to come in November, by NE cancelled their flights between PRG and KSC as of OCT 28. I hope they will make it (their trip to PRG).



Next Flight: Oct 10: PRG-MUC-KIV EMB 195/CRJ 900, Oct 12: KIV-MUC-PRG CRJ900/EMB 195 wiht Lufthansa
User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13946 times:



Quoting REALDEAL (Reply 10):
so what's the SkyEurope fleet consist of ?

They operate the Boeing 737-700.

It would be a great shame if they don't survive because they help to keep fares low at Vienna. If SkyEurope disappears, Austrian will again have much less competition on certain routes. Good for Austrian of course, as their situation is not the best either, but not so good for passengers...

Well at least I hope they will survive tomorrow because I am flying with them to and from Amsterdam!


User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13822 times:

I do hope that somebody saves them! They're great airline to fly with, new aircraft nice leather seats and nice friendly crews. Places like Kosice are really doing well now that Sky Europe have services there from places like Manchester, London(Luton) & Dublin, as well as the internal flights to Bratislava.
I'm surprised that Wizz Air are not interested in them? After all apart from the difference of aircraft type in the fleet (B737 v A320), Sky Europe's routes would be perfect for Wizz. Slovakia has borders with Poland,Hungary & Ukraine, all places that Wizz either serves or has bases at!
I certainly hope that they find a way through these financial problems as my girlfriend is flying home with them in December to spend Xmas with her family & I'm joining here for a few days over there as well! Think I might have to look at Ryanair prices from Bratislava or Easyjet from Prague as a back up!!

Dave(SAAB900)


User currently offlineSyeaphanR From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13639 times:
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Booked on 'em in December, too, taking the girlfriend home for Xmas. Figured a few days in the Tatras was a neat plan....Arrgh!

Trip already fraught as the other leg involved KTW-STN on Wizz, which became KTW-LTN, probably also largely down to O'Leary and Riotscare....Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Even as a railfan, don't fancy flying into Bratislava and hacking to Poprad by train! I'll miss the "village airport" at TAT, too!


User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 13545 times:

Since PRG is a very "NE" focus city with less competition than VIE/BTS, I expect U2/FR to expand their operations there.

User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1836 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 13351 times:

I always thought that Wizz Air would give up before SkyEurope.

First time I flew NE they were still operating the Brasilia from Zurich to Bratislava. Wasn't too impressed though, even with their B. 737 later on.


User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13127 times:



Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 18):
I always thought that Wizz Air would give up before SkyEurope.

Wizz is much stronger airline than NE.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13102 times:

It'll be hardly surprising if it materalises.


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User currently offlineAlespesl From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2004, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13085 times:



Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 15):
do hope that somebody saves them! They're great airline to fly with, new aircraft nice leather seats and nice friendly crews. Places like Kosice are really doing well now that Sky Europe have services there from places like Manchester, London(Luton) & Dublin, as well as the internal flights to Bratislava.

I think the SKY is ending the services between KSC and DUB, MAN, LTN and also between BTS and DUB, MAN ORK as of winter timetable.



Next Flight: Oct 10: PRG-MUC-KIV EMB 195/CRJ 900, Oct 12: KIV-MUC-PRG CRJ900/EMB 195 wiht Lufthansa
User currently offlineHBDAN From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 661 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12915 times:



Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 18):
First time I flew NE they were still operating the Brasilia from Zurich to Bratislava

I also had a quite interesting EMB120 experience from BGY to BTS... unforgettable!
Great airline with great service imo, would be a pity to see them out of business.

HBDAN



Next flight: hopefully soon...
User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3934 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11316 times:

Would be a great shame if they go under... I was looking to try them sometime soon  Sad

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11046 times:

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 15):
I'm surprised that Wizz Air are not interested in them? After all apart from the difference of aircraft type in the fleet (B737 v A320), Sky Europe's routes would be perfect for Wizz. Slovakia has borders with Poland,Hungary & Ukraine, all places that Wizz either serves or has bases at!

Wizz could easily enter Prague, Vienna or Bratislava themselves if they wanted, either with bases or w patterns which they do a lot off

Quoting Alespesl (Reply 21):
I think the SKY is ending the services between KSC and DUB, MAN, LTN and also between BTS and DUB, MAN ORK as of winter timetable.

Kocise-DUB is ending but not MAN/LTN. Also its BTS-BHX ending not BTS-MAN

[Edited 2008-10-09 08:58:09]

[Edited 2008-10-09 08:59:50]


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25 SKAirbus : I think SkyEurope are an awful airline... i flew with them last year BUD-AMS-BUD... even though the aircraft were brand new on the out leg there was a
26 Pe@rson :
27 Usdcaguy : Southwest Airlines charge much more than do SkyEurope and Ryanair for most of their tickets, especially after the fare increases over the past year o
28 Adriaticflight : I would be very sad to see NE going under. I really hope that they can be saved. Although i like their product better than Wizzair, the later's reach
29 REALDEAL : what garbage, Ryanair & Southwest will be last man (2) standing !!! Lots of corporates are now being told to fly LCC's insted of legacies as travel b
30 AvroArrow : Hello SKAirbus, I'm pretty sure that SkyEurope never flew the 733, just the 735 and 73G (and some EMBs in the beginning). Of course I'm over here near
31 Joost : They have operated 5 737-300s between June 2005 and March 2008. These aircraft were flying on the Hungarian register, and registered HK-LAR, -LAS, -L
32 Konrad : Wizz Air seems to have patrons that are willing to swallow losses for a longer time. Did Wizz Air actually make any profit?
33 CHRISBA777ER : They wont go under because they own their fleet and have very low operating costs. They may close routes and bases but they'll be fine unless they tr
34 CHRISBA777ER : Hmmmm - lets see. Sterling?
35 American 767 : I believe that they also have the smaller and lighter B737-500, as well as the Embraer 120 Brasilia. Yes, you are right, most aircraft in the fleet i
36 Kaitak : Or Air Berlin? (737s and A32Xs ... commonality always an advantage in a downturn.)
37 RussianJet : Lord, I hope not. However, I wouldn't be overly surprised. I would fly them every time for my purposes if I could, but they are consistently 300-400%
38 SAAB900 : The B373-500's & the EMB120's left the fleet a while ago now! It's all B737-700's. Dave(SAAB900)
39 REALDEAL : sounds like a very good time to start up a new airline (like staright after SEP 11), as fuel prices dropping & leasing rates also dropping. Might be s
40 Post contains links LAXintl : Rescue on the horizon. Full story (subscription required) http://www.aviationweek.com/publicat...ity+Fund+Makes+Offer+For+SkyEurope
41 GCT64 : 8 Oct 17 Oct Doesn't sound like a rescue to me, sounds like some brutal, hard core capitalism. Start with 29.9%, withdraw funding, take it to the brin
42 Post contains links Beaucaire : Austrian Airlines Technics have stopped performing maintenance on Skyeurope planes in Vienna,since Sky defaulted on payments for the service. York Cap
43 Post contains links Beaucaire : The very latest news just in.. http://www.financninoviny.cz/english/index_view.php?id=339521
44 MH017 : Interesting development: never thought SkyEurope would seek cooperation with MyAir of Italy: how solvent is the Italian carrier ?
45 Tommy212 : hope this gives Skyeurope a chance of surviving and not meaning that will just bring down another carrier
46 Humberside : Dont know, but they owned LTE
47 Beaucaire : Only figure I found was 2M € profit for 2006 with a turnover of 99M €.. At least they have a more realistic business-model but I fear that Sky wi
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