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Wizz Air Announces Luton-Kiev Flights...  
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3177 times:

... and they're now bookable.

The service will start on the 17th December and initially operate 4x weekly but will increase to 1x daily from the 28th March.

http://wizzair.com/about_us/news/default.asp#jk98judt2


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2981 times:

And 4 more Ukraine flights announced today!

Kiev-Dortmund 4x weekly
Kiev-Cologne 3x weekly

Lviv-Dortmund 3x weekly
Lviv-Luton 4x weekly

http://wizzair.com/about_us/news/default.asp#mnb8judt2



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

Some revolutionarily low fares…

Kiev/Lviv-London from £30 one-way including taxes
London-Kiev/Lviv from £67.50* one-way including taxes
Cologne-Kiev from €26.99 (around £22) one-way including taxes

* Apparently because there are £40 additional taxes from the UK to Ukraine.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2894 times:

Is it me or is 4xWeek a bit high for a initial frequency on Lviv-LTN? There is no recent history in flights with the market - wouldn't it be a bit more prudent to start at 2xWeek and build up from there?

Its noticenable how Wizz seem to be focusing more on Romania and Ukraine currently, and moving capacity from declining markets such as UK-Poland. Wizz have left, or will leave BOH, CVT, MME BFS, LGW and STN this year. LTN, LPL, DSA and PIK remain as UK destinations, plus Cork in Ireland.

And an interesting fact I read on pprune the other day that Wizz had more flights at Luton than FR, and they seem to keep adding more. Some how they can even keep Bourgas-Luton going once a week in winter



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

LWO-LTN 4x weekly might be overkill, we'll see.

-A



What now?
User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2838 times:



Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 4):
LWO-LTN 4x weekly might be overkill, we'll see.

If they position it as a 'city trip' market it might work.



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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2872 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2820 times:



Quoting JRadier (Reply 5):
If they position it as a 'city trip' market it might work.

Oh no, another great East European city ruined by UK "city trippers"...



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2815 times:
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Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 6):
Oh no, another great East European city ruined by UK "city trippers"...

Er, thanks for the slur on my nation's character there BuyantUkhaa, very nice.

This loathsome British city tripper for one will certainly be paying a trip to Kiev at some point, where I will not get drunk like an animal and brawl in the streets, will speak to locals fluently in one of their country's main languages, and visit the cultural delights that their fair city has to offer. Is there something wrong with that??



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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2872 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2798 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 7):
This loathsome British city tripper for one will certainly be paying a trip to Kiev at some point, where I will not get drunk like an animal and brawl in the streets, will speak to locals fluently in one of their country's main languages, and visit the cultural delights that their fair city has to offer. Is there something wrong with that??

Well, if all visitors were like you, there would be no problem - but if you've been to Bratislava, Riga and the like, you see that people have become very UK-averse. Which is a pity for those Brits who do behave well. But I'd say, from my own observation, that the majority are stag groups; and although I consider myself open-minded, I have yet to understand this phenomenon. Stag groups are giving UK tourists a horrible reputation - surpassed only by the Russians (and I love visiting the UK and Russia, I have nothing against the countries, quite the contrary).

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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2785 times:
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Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 8):
but if you've been to Bratislava, Riga and the like

Indeed I have, and whilst I understand what you're getting at, I know that people there still tend to treat people depending on how they behave, and I also know that many foreign nationals (including citizens of those Eastern European countries) are just as capable of causing alcohol-fuelled mayhem in other countries (including the UK), as Brits are over there. All I'm trying to say is let's not tar everyone with the same brush here. I work in STN, and I can assure you that drunken, rowdy groups of young men are not exclusively British.

Kiev is a fairly big place, I can't see it being ruined by British visitors, and I can imagine those who try to do so may well end up getting their butts kicked and wishing they hadn't bothered! (and serve them right too).  Wink



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User currently offlineUzzzer From Ukraine, joined Dec 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2636 times:



Quoting Humberside (Reply 3):
Is it me or is 4xWeek a bit high for a initial frequency on Lviv-LTN? There is no recent history in flights with the market - wouldn't it be a bit more prudent to start at 2xWeek and build up from there?

British embassy visa section would object that  scratchchin 

Lviv is a Euro-2012 destination, and has a fair amount of UK traffic. It disperses via KBP, WAW and, recently, RZE, so for this reason is not noticeable. It is one of the most interesting undiscovered (from Western European perspective) tourist destinations with beautiful architecture, lots of lovely cafes, restaurants, and one of Europe's oldest brewery.

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 6):
Oh no, another great East European city ruined by UK "city trippers"...

Well, that would be vise versa, since Ukrainian ones won't miss their chance in London  biggrin 

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
Kiev is a fairly big place, I can't see it being ruined by British visitors

Interestingly, WizzAir has managed to get on both sides of the negotiation table at the same time. Ukraine is not part of the Open Skies, so the capacity is regulated by bi- or multilateral agreements. (W6) WizzAir Hungary got LTN-KBP. (WU) WizzAir Ukraine got LWO-LTN.

And further east: WizzAir Ukraine also got KBP-TBS (Tbilisi) rights, however, apparently the airport chages are too high in Georgia.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Everything I have read has said that Lviv will be the next popular Eastern European city. From all I have heard and seen, it looks like a lovely city.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2558 times:
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Quoting Uzzzer (Reply 10):
Well, that would be vise versa, since Ukrainian ones won't miss their chance in London

Small difference in that they would have to obtain visas first. As far as I know we are now visa-free to the Ukraine for visits.

Quoting Uzzzer (Reply 10):
WizzAir Ukraine also got KBP-TBS (Tbilisi) rights

I bet they did.



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User currently offlineAdriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

Nice to see Wizzair breaking new ground. I will definalty try and visit Lwow, its meant to be lovely. Like Timisoara in Romania Wizzair is good at finding nice small (but not too small) cities that are really untapped tourist gems.

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

Lviv truly is a beautiful city.. I'm really glad Wizz Air has come into LWO; the fares PS charges to go to Europe out of Lviv are absurd.

Now Wizz; how about Kiev-Moscow rights?!

-A



What now?
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

Great to see Wizzair adding some more unusual destinations to LTN's growing list...

I was looking at their timetable during a random week in February and they operate 91 flights a week to LTN... Not bad for an airport which has no Wizzair aircraft based or night stopping there!

Bourgas 1x Weekly
Bucharest - 7x Weekly
Budapest - 11x Weekly
Cluj - 4x Weekly
Gdansk - 12x Weekly
Katowice - 13x Weekly
Kiev - 4x Weekly
Lviv - 4x Weekly
Poznan - 5x Weekly
Sofia - 7x Weekly
Timisoara - 3x Weekly
Warsaw - 13x Weekly
Wroclaw - 4x Weekly
Zagreb - 3x Weekly

Potentially Wizzair carry over 1.7 million passengers through LTN!

[Edited 2008-10-12 09:26:09]

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