Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18836 posts, RR: 54 Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2156 times:
Some revolutionarily low fares…
Kiev/Lviv-London from £30 one-way including taxes
London-Kiev/Lviv from £67.50* one-way including taxes
Cologne-Kiev from €26.99 (around £22) one-way including taxes
* Apparently because there are £40 additional taxes from the UK to Ukraine.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4901 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2080 times:
Is it me or is 4xWeek a bit high for a initial frequency on Lviv-LTN? There is no recent history in flights with the market - wouldn't it be a bit more prudent to start at 2xWeek and build up from there?
Its noticenable how Wizz seem to be focusing more on Romania and Ukraine currently, and moving capacity from declining markets such as UK-Poland. Wizz have left, or will leave BOH, CVT, MME BFS, LGW and STN this year. LTN, LPL, DSA and PIK remain as UK destinations, plus Cork in Ireland.
And an interesting fact I read on pprune the other day that Wizz had more flights at Luton than FR, and they seem to keep adding more. Some how they can even keep Bourgas-Luton going once a week in winter
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2029 times:
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6291 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2001 times:
Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 6): Oh no, another great East European city ruined by UK "city trippers"...
Er, thanks for the slur on my nation's character there BuyantUkhaa, very nice.
This loathsome British city tripper for one will certainly be paying a trip to Kiev at some point, where I will not get drunk like an animal and brawl in the streets, will speak to locals fluently in one of their country's main languages, and visit the cultural delights that their fair city has to offer. Is there something wrong with that??
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BuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2779 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1984 times:
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 7): This loathsome British city tripper for one will certainly be paying a trip to Kiev at some point, where I will not get drunk like an animal and brawl in the streets, will speak to locals fluently in one of their country's main languages, and visit the cultural delights that their fair city has to offer. Is there something wrong with that??
Well, if all visitors were like you, there would be no problem - but if you've been to Bratislava, Riga and the like, you see that people have become very UK-averse. Which is a pity for those Brits who do behave well. But I'd say, from my own observation, that the majority are stag groups; and although I consider myself open-minded, I have yet to understand this phenomenon. Stag groups are giving UK tourists a horrible reputation - surpassed only by the Russians (and I love visiting the UK and Russia, I have nothing against the countries, quite the contrary).
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6291 posts, RR: 23 Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1971 times:
Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 8): but if you've been to Bratislava, Riga and the like
Indeed I have, and whilst I understand what you're getting at, I know that people there still tend to treat people depending on how they behave, and I also know that many foreign nationals (including citizens of those Eastern European countries) are just as capable of causing alcohol-fuelled mayhem in other countries (including the UK), as Brits are over there. All I'm trying to say is let's not tar everyone with the same brush here. I work in STN, and I can assure you that drunken, rowdy groups of young men are not exclusively British.
Kiev is a fairly big place, I can't see it being ruined by British visitors, and I can imagine those who try to do so may well end up getting their butts kicked and wishing they hadn't bothered! (and serve them right too).
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Uzzzer From Ukraine, joined Dec 2006, 137 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1822 times:
Quoting Humberside (Reply 3): Is it me or is 4xWeek a bit high for a initial frequency on Lviv-LTN? There is no recent history in flights with the market - wouldn't it be a bit more prudent to start at 2xWeek and build up from there?
British embassy visa section would object that
Lviv is a Euro-2012 destination, and has a fair amount of UK traffic. It disperses via KBP, WAW and, recently, RZE, so for this reason is not noticeable. It is one of the most interesting undiscovered (from Western European perspective) tourist destinations with beautiful architecture, lots of lovely cafes, restaurants, and one of Europe's oldest brewery.
Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 6): Oh no, another great East European city ruined by UK "city trippers"...
Well, that would be vise versa, since Ukrainian ones won't miss their chance in London
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9): Kiev is a fairly big place, I can't see it being ruined by British visitors
Interestingly, WizzAir has managed to get on both sides of the negotiation table at the same time. Ukraine is not part of the Open Skies, so the capacity is regulated by bi- or multilateral agreements. (W6) WizzAir Hungary got LTN-KBP. (WU) WizzAir Ukraine got LWO-LTN.
And further east: WizzAir Ukraine also got KBP-TBS (Tbilisi) rights, however, apparently the airport chages are too high in Georgia.
Adriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 493 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1699 times:
Nice to see Wizzair breaking new ground. I will definalty try and visit Lwow, its meant to be lovely. Like Timisoara in Romania Wizzair is good at finding nice small (but not too small) cities that are really untapped tourist gems.
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1666 times:
Lviv truly is a beautiful city.. I'm really glad Wizz Air has come into LWO; the fares PS charges to go to Europe out of Lviv are absurd.
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2882 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1604 times:
Great to see Wizzair adding some more unusual destinations to LTN's growing list...
I was looking at their timetable during a random week in February and they operate 91 flights a week to LTN... Not bad for an airport which has no Wizzair aircraft based or night stopping there!