USAirways737 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1026 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (14 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 1970 times:
Whats the seat pitch on that old Fclass? It looks like only around 40in. Nowadays you get at least 60in. And everyone complains about how air travel was so much better in the good-old-days. I'll take the flat bed ptvs or 60in.pitch anyday over 40in.
AgnusBymaster From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1945 times:
Yeah...but you forget about the in-flight service. Ammenity kits have gone down the tubes, most airlines no longer stock the variety of newspapers and magazines they used to and meal service is not nearly as elegant.
BA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1891 times:
Well when i was on BA027 Hong Kong to London (747-436) we were given newspapers, magazines and a realy nice ameniti kit with wooden razor, shaving foam, socks, eye pads, toothbrush, comb, aftershave ect. The seats were realy comfortable and we had movable electronic leg rests as well. The seat went back a lot further than most flight's i have been on. Is this BA's new World Traveller service? or just BA's impecable service? we Had our own little cabin with only about 8-10 rows after J class.
Yamamoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1897 times:
I own a small business and travel on airplanes at distances ranging from an hours travel to cross country Philadelphia to LA a few times a month. Currently I use USAIR and because of financial restrictions I purchase coach. I am aware that USAIR's seats are more expensive than other airlines because of strong unions. To get to the point, I am interested in what the best economy class on any airline, additionally I am interested in the airline with cheapest business class, or website to get cheapest business class. Thanks a lot!
Englandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1875 times:
I'm getting the feeling (from what some of you've written) that it's mainly the US airlines that have gotten worse. From my experience of travelling European airlines, I'd say the service is still very good in Y.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1867 times:
First and Business are definitely better than the old First class in the 1970s. In the 747s for instance, the Zone A cabin had 24 seats in the 70s, whereas in the late 80s with 60"pitch sleeper seats, most airlines had 16-18 seats. The old first class seats had a pitch of around 48", which is not much by today's standards. Of course, coach had a standard pitch of 34" then which is luxurious in comparison to today's standards. However, in the so called good-ol-days of air travel, flights made numerous refueling stops due to limited range aircraft, and drinks were seldom free in coach. Perhaps, the attitude of the crew was a bit more obsequious given the era, and flying First was definitely a big formal process, but flyers today are more casual even in First, and airlines have factored that into their service.
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2665 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1861 times:
Not all European carriers have an excellent coach class service. I've experienced coach class service on Alitalia, Air France, and Lufthansa, and have found their product close to abysmal, especially on AZ. I would take the coach class service of Continental or Delta over any European carrier. And just so you know where I'm coming from, I've taken about 50 transatlantic trips in my career, and I have flown on just about every airline that crosses the pond on a regular basis, some who don't, and some who never will again.
IMO, transpacific carriers have the best premium cabins, European domestic has the best coach class product, and US airlines are nothing extraordinary, but they get you there safely and in some level of comfort. By no means are US carriers the innovators of long-haul travel, however.
Cathay pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1849 times:
well.....i haven't travelled on any US or Europe base airlines....i mainly fly with CX and they do provide newspaper and mag to Y class passengers...i'm not tring to make CX look good ok...but from reading posts from other members....can i say that a lot of the Asian base airlines provide better services than those from Europe or the US?????