LAXintl From United States, joined May 2000, 12183 posts, RR: 22 Posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2136 times:
Quote: Virgin America Expands New York-Las Vegas Route
Airline Adds Daily Direct Flight On the High-Demand Travel Route
SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 9, 2008 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Virgin America, the California-based airline on a mission to make flying good again, today announced it will add another daily non-stop flight between New York's John F. Kennedy International (JFK) and Las Vegas McCarran International (LAS) airports. Effective Dec. 11, 2008, Virgin America will have two daily flights* on this busy travel route.
Lambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 1989 times:
Quoting Aviators99 (Reply 1): Yields must be pretty good for them to do this, no?
Surprised to see an additional LAS-JFK frequency. Would have thought we would see either SAN-JFK, or an additional LAX or SFO-JFK before LAS saw a second service. Perhaps VX is able or has been able to erode the B6 market share.
Aviators99 From United States, joined May 2008, 365 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 1781 times:
Quoting SWASFLA (Reply 7): I think it's more of VX having to put an A/C somewhere. They don't fly to many cities so they might as well put it on that route.
I don't understand this. If it weren't profitable, wouldn't it be better to park the plane or lease it?
Petteri From United States, joined Aug 2007, 211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 1752 times:
Quoting Aviators99 (Reply 9): I don't understand this. If it weren't profitable, wouldn't it be better to park the plane or lease it?
He's not saying it isn't profitable, just more profitable than just sitting there or running another route. With the recent drop in fuel prices, some routes may be making a comeback or get expanded. If the economy as a whole just doesn't tank completely.
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SANFan From United States, joined Aug 2006, 2480 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 1662 times:
Quoting Petteri (Reply 4): The yield may be better (although still low) compared to what the plane may have been doing instead of this route.
Like parked on the tarmac at SFO!
I commented a day or so on the other VX thread that I thought they would be better off getting a/c in the air, even at break-even yields (or even losing money) rather than leasing the planes out or parking them. I was envisioning short- or medium-length routes but, as has been stated, oil prices are declining (along with everything else); the environment continues to change and maybe long-hauls are again looking profitable.
Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 2): Would have thought we would see either SAN-JFK, or an additional LAX or SFO-JFK before LAS saw a second service.
Ummm... [bites tongue.] Absolutely (and amazingly) no comment!
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Iowaman From United States, joined May 2004, 3486 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 1591 times:
With fuel dropping down to the $80-$85 range today, a few transcons may be coming back. With lower fuel costs and a great way to utilize a plane at night (which I bet does well loadwise) this should be a decent winner.
Aviators99 From United States, joined May 2008, 365 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 1573 times:
Quoting Petteri (Reply 11): He's not saying it isn't profitable, just more profitable than just sitting there or running another route. With the recent drop in fuel prices, some routes may be making a comeback or get expanded. If the economy as a whole just doesn't tank completely.
This is the first time anyone on this forum has suggested a VX route could be profitable.
TOLtommy From United States, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 2608 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 1527 times:
Might have to do with positioning as well. They are doing some flying for Direct Air, may need to get the plane in rotation for certain mx checks.
EK345 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 146 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 1476 times:
Quoting SWASFLA (Reply 3): Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 2):
Perhaps VX is able or has been able to erode the B6 market share.
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LOL. I doubt that.
I agree. The market share must have come from one of the other "network" carriers operating the route. Good job to VX and I hope they continue to grow and bring more of their great service to other cities soon!
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