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Virgin America Adds LAS-JFK Frequency  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25062 posts, RR: 46
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3772 times:



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Virgin America Expands New York-Las Vegas Route

Airline Adds Daily Direct Flight On the High-Demand Travel Route


SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 9, 2008 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Virgin America, the California-based airline on a mission to make flying good again, today announced it will add another daily non-stop flight between New York's John F. Kennedy International (JFK) and Las Vegas McCarran International (LAS) airports. Effective Dec. 11, 2008, Virgin America will have two daily flights* on this busy travel route.

http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/081009/151942.html

VX259 JFK-LAS 2000-2220
VX268 LAS-JFK 2345-0729


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User currently offlineAviators99 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3664 times:

Yields must be pretty good for them to do this, no?

User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3625 times:



Quoting Aviators99 (Reply 1):
Yields must be pretty good for them to do this, no?

Surprised to see an additional LAS-JFK frequency. Would have thought we would see either SAN-JFK, or an additional LAX or SFO-JFK before LAS saw a second service. Perhaps VX is able or has been able to erode the B6 market share.


User currently offlineSWASFLA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3510 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 2):
Perhaps VX is able or has been able to erode the B6 market share.

LOL. I doubt that.


User currently offlinePetteri From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3501 times:



Quoting Aviators99 (Reply 1):
Yields must be pretty good for them to do this, no?

All is relative. The yield may be better (although still low) compared to what the plane may have been doing instead of this route.

I'm not at all familiar with VX, is this coming at the expense of another route or is this coming from spare capacity?



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25062 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3488 times:

Things must be looking good on the route as it only started on September 4th if VX feels it warrants a 2nd flight already.

good for them!



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

No brainer, that route is busy. I tried to book them to come home for Xmas but had to fly Delta.

User currently offlineSWASFLA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3434 times:

I think it's more of VX having to put an A/C somewhere. They don't fly to many cities so they might as well put it on that route.

User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3424 times:
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Fuel prices continue to slide (along with the stock market), so it may slowly become more feasible to fly transcon with narrowbody airplanes now.

User currently offlineAviators99 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3417 times:



Quoting SWASFLA (Reply 7):
I think it's more of VX having to put an A/C somewhere. They don't fly to many cities so they might as well put it on that route.

I don't understand this. If it weren't profitable, wouldn't it be better to park the plane or lease it?


User currently offlineJalflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

im flying them on the 26th of november and the 30th and both days seem pretty empty to me and thats the thanksgiving holiday!

User currently offlinePetteri From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3388 times:



Quoting Aviators99 (Reply 9):
I don't understand this. If it weren't profitable, wouldn't it be better to park the plane or lease it?

He's not saying it isn't profitable, just more profitable than just sitting there or running another route. With the recent drop in fuel prices, some routes may be making a comeback or get expanded. If the economy as a whole just doesn't tank completely.



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5400 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3298 times:



Quoting Petteri (Reply 4):
The yield may be better (although still low) compared to what the plane may have been doing instead of this route.

Like parked on the tarmac at SFO!

I commented a day or so on the other VX thread that I thought they would be better off getting a/c in the air, even at break-even yields (or even losing money) rather than leasing the planes out or parking them. I was envisioning short- or medium-length routes but, as has been stated, oil prices are declining (along with everything else); the environment continues to change and maybe long-hauls are again looking profitable.


Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 2):
Would have thought we would see either SAN-JFK, or an additional LAX or SFO-JFK before LAS saw a second service.

Ummm... [bites tongue.] Absolutely (and amazingly) no comment!

bb


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4384 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3227 times:
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With fuel dropping down to the $80-$85 range today, a few transcons may be coming back. With lower fuel costs and a great way to utilize a plane at night (which I bet does well loadwise) this should be a decent winner.


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User currently offlineAviators99 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3209 times:



Quoting Petteri (Reply 11):
He's not saying it isn't profitable, just more profitable than just sitting there or running another route. With the recent drop in fuel prices, some routes may be making a comeback or get expanded. If the economy as a whole just doesn't tank completely.

This is the first time anyone on this forum has suggested a VX route could be profitable.


User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

Might have to do with positioning as well. They are doing some flying for Direct Air, may need to get the plane in rotation for certain mx checks.

User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4006 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3130 times:
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Congratulations to VX. I hope the additional frequency works out well for them.

Any news about them adding LAX/SFO-ORD?


User currently offlineEK345 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3112 times:



Quoting SWASFLA (Reply 3):
Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 2):
Perhaps VX is able or has been able to erode the B6 market share.

---

LOL. I doubt that.

I agree. The market share must have come from one of the other "network" carriers operating the route. Good job to VX and I hope they continue to grow and bring more of their great service to other cities soon!

EK345



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