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Idea For A 767 Replacement  
User currently offline777kicksass From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2000, 668 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

Couldn't Boeing just sshrink the 777 (width-wise aswell to make it a 2-3-2 or a bit more) and incorperate the curvy roof and fly-by-wire and flight deck??

Thanks

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User currently onlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4810 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

Why not just update the avionics on the 767? That would be a hell of a lot cheaper.

User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

What exactley would the point be? Why not just use the 767-400?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I don't think they could be arsed to tell you the truth, that bit of the market is already filled by the 777-200 and the smaller 767-400. Why make another aircraft? This would be a time waster and non-profitable project.


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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

777SP???? Big grin

User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

Once you shrink the diameter of a plane, it is quite sure to become a major new development: That is why all planes are stretched / shrunk lengthwise: To get a smaller width (diameter) you need a completely new set of tools, assembly line, in short: A completely new design. Sorry, but this idea is a bit odd

Regards

Ikarus


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

Wasn't the "Yellowstone" project designed to be 767-sized? IIRC it is Boeing's design for a new plane that would travel close to Mach .95. Perhaps this could be an option?

Aaron G.


User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1186 times:

The 767 already has advanced avionics with it's new "777-style" cockpit package. The 767 design is new and there is no need for replacement.
-Tom


User currently onlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4810 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1177 times:

I meant updating the avionics to allow for a common rating with the 777.

User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1169 times:

The 767 avionics are common with the 777, with the exception of a few systems that were left out to offer commonality with existing 767, something that design customers stressed. Pilots can be qualified for both 767 and 777, and only includes a transitioning session. The reason why pilots have to take such a session is the reason is that the 777 is the only Boeing to incorporate FBW, which contributes to a different feel to the aircraft.
-Tom


User currently offlineTWA From Iran, joined Sep 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1171 times:

Why the heck would we need a 767 replacement??? Its one of the most modern planes in the world.

King767, Nice talkin to ya today earliar in the chatroom  Smile

TWA



User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1161 times:

Yeah, do they really need to phase out 767's?


Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1155 times:

Boeing has the 763 and 764 going in full force, and CO is getting new 762s. All have the new technology, and I think Boeing could make good money by reopening the 762 line.

Jeff


User currently offlineGodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2753 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1151 times:

I believe that Boeing shouldn't have just developed the 767-400 but a new 767-family. The 767 was developed over 20 years ago so an upgrade wouldn't be too bad... So if Boeing would have offered the -200 and -300 with the new stuff they put into the -400 they would be all right. So they should replace the 767 with a "new" 767-family. The same goes for the 757. with the 757-300 the should have offerd the 737-NG cockpit in both the -200 and -300.

User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1145 times:

TWA, great talking to you too  Smile

GodBless, Boeing makes decisions on customer prefences, and customers want as much commonality as possible. Again, there is nothing "old" about the 767 design, and just because it does not have FBW, does not make it a "dated" design. Also, the new cockpit is already an option on the 757, but no airline has ordered it with it yet. Anyway, really if you look at it GodBless, not much has changed since then and the 767 has been quietly, steadily upgraded over the course of those 20 years.
-Tom


User currently offlinePatches From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1132 times:

what ever happened to the 777-100? If you want a 767 replacement that would be the only way to go. I bought a book about the 777 development and they talk about the 777-100 alot in this book. They made it sound like it was supposed to come out last year. But like most of you said in this thread we really don't need a 767 replacement.

User currently offlineAKDan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1131 times:

Are you suggesting a 787 that competes directly with the 764?

User currently offlineFlyerC_B757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1124 times:

Yeah right...

There already is a "mini" Triple Seven. It's called the Boeing 767-400ER.


User currently offlineBoing&AirbR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1118 times:

Maybe an A330-200  Smile!Too large?
Why are we talking about a B767 replacement if airlines like continental are still ordering the B762???New projects are dictated by market rules.If B767 is still doing well why Boeing should consider a new project?Even more, manufacturers have their priorities...Airbus is not also very worried about an A300/310 replacement.They are busy with their new planes such as the A380 and A346.(Is Boeing preparing a big surprise for us, aviation fans?! Smokin cool). But I'm still convinced that an A330-200 wouldn't be a bad choice Smile/happy/getting dizzy!!!

Regards,
Boing&AirbRulz


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8034 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1086 times:

I don't think there will be a 767 replacement for at least 10-15 years.  Smile

What I do see is the possibility of the 767 getting an all-new, more efficient wing. This will allow the 767 to have lower fuel burn and very likely longer range.


User currently offlineEarly Air From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 611 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1085 times:

We already have this aircraft you speak of, THE 767-400!

Rgds,
Early Air


User currently offline777kicksass From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2000, 668 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

Maybe upgrade should be a better word!! I think Boeing should think about using the 764 wing, avionics and cabin in a 762/763 modernisation. They could offer the original versions aswell for commonality.

Thanks


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