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Emirates Largest Ever Commitment To Greek Market  
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26937 posts, RR: 58
Posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7985 times:

Emirates will from 1st March 2009 launch double daily service from ATH-DXB

ATH DXB 1550 2205 EK 106 77W
ATH DXB 2220#0435 EK 104 A332

DXB ATH 1005 1325 EK 105 77W
DXB ATH 1730 2050 EK 103 A332

In another commitment to the Greek market and to increase brand awareness they have entered into a sponsorship deal with the most successful Greek football team Olympiacos FC.

DUBAI, U.A.E., 6th October 2008 - Emirates, the Dubai-based award-winning international airline, announced on Sunday evening the signing of a sponsorship deal with Olympiacos FC, the most successful Club in the history of Greek football, having won 11 out of the last 12 and a total of 36 Greek Championships.

The deal, covering the current season with options to extend the partnership for a further two years, will see the familiar ‘Fly Emirates’ signage displayed at the Karaiskaki Stadium, the home of Olympiacos.

http://www.emirates.com/uk/english/a...etail.aspx?article=372159&offset=0

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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7772 times:



Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Emirates will from 1st March 2009 launch double daily service from ATH-DXB

I can't work out where the demand is coming from for double daily services.
Apart from the migrant community in Australia, which other significant markets feed onto these services??

Doubling capacity is a huge step!


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7744 times:

I guess EK also sees a market is shorter one-stop services to Greece from all over Asia where they have saturation coveration. From India for example, you will have to fly LH, AF, KL or BA - which will considerably adds flight time. EK makes it easier and probably cheaper - which will open up Greece's tourism market to new destinations.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26937 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7475 times:



Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 1):
Doubling capacity is a huge step!

Yes and I hope it works well for them. SQ and TG might feel the pinch depending on who gets the bookings.


User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3213 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7232 times:



Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 1):
Apart from the migrant community in Australia, which other significant markets feed onto these services??

A lot of non-greeek anglo/non wog european australians also holiday in greece. Its a very popular destination. You know, hang out with the beautiful ppl in Mykinos or Sorenti?


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7068 times:



Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 4):
A lot of non-greeek anglo/non wog european australians also holiday in greece. Its a very popular destination. You know, hang out with the beautiful ppl in Mykinos or Sorenti?

Fair enough... but this is high peak from May to October at best.
what happens with the capacity for the rest of the year.
the holiday travel is highly seasonal... hardly enough to sustain year round double daily ops.

my question is what sustains over 1000 seats per day in and out of athens a day outisde the peak months?


User currently offlineFridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7057 times:
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Do any of you think EK will service Cyprus or is that destination too small?

Thanks



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26937 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7028 times:



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 6):
Do any of you think EK will service Cyprus or is that destination too small?

Thanks

They have been serving Cyprus..


User currently offlineLEEDS19 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2008, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6534 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
I can't work out where the demand is coming from for double daily services

I think the main connections for this second daily flight will come from the Chinese market.EK have lunchtime Arrivals from both PVG and PEK and as Air China Route PEK-DXB-ATH, I would see this as been in their sights.

Also remember the A380 will be serving on the SYD route come Feb,(At least I hope as thats when im planning on flying on it) and Greece as already mentioned above has very busy Australian connections though DXB.


User currently offlinePiskoto From Cyprus, joined Nov 2006, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6152 times:



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 6):
Do any of you think EK will service Cyprus or is that destination too small?

Wake up!!!!
Emirates is sending us a range of beautiful 777s (new configuration!) five times weekly, and from Feb2009 (I think!, anyway, from early 2009) is going to make it daily, with a combination of 773s,772s, and 77W!


User currently offlineLHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 655 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6085 times:



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 6):
Do any of you think EK will service Cyprus or is that destination too small?

I think that must be the coolest intra-EU flight - EK via international config 77W LCA-MLA...



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25154 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6029 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 6):
Do any of you think EK will service Cyprus or is that destination too small?

Thanks

They have been serving Cyprus..

EK has 5 777-300 flights a week DXB-LCA-MLA with 5th freedom rights on the LCA-MLA sector.


User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26937 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6029 times:



Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 10):
I think that must be the coolest intra-EU flight - EK via international config 77W LCA-MLA...

At one stage they sold seats on it . Do they still? Does it actually still do that routing?


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5162 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5788 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
EK has 5 777-300 flights a week DXB-LCA-MLA with 5th freedom rights on the LCA-MLA sector.



Quoting Oa260 (Reply 12):
At one stage they sold seats on it . Do they still? Does it actually still do that routing?

Bookable, no problem

EK around 230.-- EUROS

much better to book it via

KM (Codeshare) around 140.-- EUROS

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26937 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5743 times:



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 13):
much better to book it via

KM (Codeshare) around 140.-- EUROS

WOW good tip !! I wonder how much J class is . Might be worth a trip. Markus Im looking forward to your EK Trip report LCA-MLA ...lol


User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3198 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5666 times:



Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 4):
wog

You're aware aren't you, bearing an Ozzie flag, that this is a disparaging term that many find insulting?



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User currently offlineMillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

The entire idea that Emirates flights is due to immigrants that arrived 30 years ago or so to Australia is weird.
Sure there are VFR traffic but VFR traffic between Australia and Europe is not what makes Athens a promising station for emirates, SIA and Thai etc.
Athens is a large city with plenty of businesses and tourist attractions.

And its for business and tourist attractions that Emirates is opening a double daily to Athens not for the greek diaspora in Melbourne or for Australians wanting to go on holiday to Greece. Its nothing wrong with overestimating ones native country but lets understand that Emirates major focus when opening new routes is not the Australian market.



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User currently offlineFridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4850 times:
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It seems I have been mis-informed!

Thank you all for the correction!  bigthumbsup 

Cheers!



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

I am sure everyone here knows that ATH-DXB also means DXB-ATH, meaning that the market is not just for Greeks but also for those wishing to visit Greece...  Wink

One must also consider that flying any European long-haul airline from Athens to Asia requires a significant amount of back-tracking. EK has a tremendous advantage in its ability to route passengers efficiently to Asia and Africa.

But of course we all knew that as well...

And now we all have a GREAT reason to visit both Cyprus and Malta (in addition to their great natural beauty) - I say we plan an a.net get-together and party on-board the EK 777 and fly LCA-MLA and back!!



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User currently offline1821 From Greece, joined Jul 2007, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3933 times:



Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):

Couldn't Emirates sponsor Panathinaikos instead? Lord know's they need the money to buy decent players. Zilberto Silva cannot do the job of the whole team. Or even better by the team from Bardinojiannis.
 laughing 



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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3213 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3811 times:



Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 16):
its for business and tourist attractions that Emirates is opening a double daily to Athens not for the greek diaspora in Melbourne or for Australians wanting to go on holiday to Greece

Um... don't you think it could actually have more to do with the fact that Greece doesn't have a decent national airline servicing the home market, and major european hubs aren't exacdtly close?

And MH...they call themselves wogs. Like I'm a fricken Kraut and others are chinks and skips... come on we're not gonna return to the 90s were everybody has to take offence at the drop of a hat? Its not like I called them Kaffirs or something.


User currently offline1821 From Greece, joined Jul 2007, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

Hey i'm Greek 110% love my ouzo , love my country but live in SYD and i certainly don't take offence to the term " wog "


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User currently offlinePanais From Cyprus, joined May 2008, 462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

OK magkes, lets focus here.

EK believes that the market can take an extra plane during the summer months, this is why they are starting the service in March 2009.

Additionally, they are adding their smallest plane, a A332, which seats between 237 and 278.

The interest must be coming from everywhere they fly and it shows their ability to fill planes and it shows that the hub and spoke model works.

The Greek market also has a lot of demand for destinations that EK flys during the summer months.

I do not see EK as an airline, but as a travel agency. They have definitely, made some deals with 5 star hotels in Athens and the Islands and they will be selling holiday packages to Greece worldwide.

If anybody wants to talk about commitment, lets wait to see if the two routes also operate in the winter months.


User currently offlineEk773er From Greece, joined Oct 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

Also do not forget the Greek shipping industry which has many branches in South east Asia (Singapore, China, South Korea etc) and have a substantial number of people traveling all year long.
It is great to see EK adding capacity especially for the summer season. It was n't easy to find a ticket during the peak summer season and you had to plan way ahead.

Cheers,


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26937 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2791 times:



Quoting Ek773er (Reply 23):
Also do not forget the Greek shipping industry

Exactly.  checkmark   checkmark 

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Quoting Panais (Reply 22):
I do not see EK as an airline, but as a travel agency.

Emirates Holidays is classed as a Tour Operator and yes they seem to have the right idea.

http://www.emirates-holidays.com/regional/destinations/Europe/Greece/


25 LH431 : These are one way prices incl. all taxes and fees. Thats 400euro/one way on the EK A332(booked via KM). I don't know if its worth.
26 OA260 : Hmm for a 2 hour flight I might be tempted.
27 Piskoto : Wrong! KM codeshare flight is too expensive! Better book the original emirates flights, i.e. as EK107/108. LCA-MLA-LCA at any day, Ticket including R
28 CYatUK : Actually in today's Cypriot press, EK announce that the flight becomes daily. The increased frequency starts from 1st December 2008.
29 Post contains links Oa260 : Yes good news for Cyprus . Emirates is to begin daily flights to Cyprus from December 1st Emirates is to begin daily flights to Cyprus from December
30 FLIEGER67 : Booking one way is cheaper on KM codeshare, return is better on EK itself as mentioned, around 195.-- EURO´s. So when will we go? Greetings, Markus (
31 Oa260 : LOL... dont say things like that , You Markus are a dangerous influence I really want to do AMS-IST with PK before I do the EK one.
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