GF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1643 posts, RR: 3 Posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9359 times:
Gulf Air is poised for a major expansion in the long-haul market, adding up to six European destinations to its network next year.
As part of its summer schedule for 2009, the Bahraini national carrier says it is hoping to launch flights to Amsterdam, Rome, Milan, Munich, Moscow and Warsaw.
However, the decision on whether to go ahead depends on the level of the oil price. At $100-110 a barrel, the company will launch three or four destinations, and then review launching a further two or three.
However, any rise in the cost of fuel beyond that level could limit the number of new destinations, or even lead to the whole expansion programme being postponed.
"We have to decide which markets have the potential to bring enough passengers to Bahrain," says Bjorn Naf, chief executive officer of Gulf Air
QatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1602 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9107 times:
Well, Rome, Milan, Munich, and Amsterdam must all be served by widebodies (A330s or A340s). However, Moscow and Warsaw can both see A32Xs as they have sufficient range for these flights.
With GF due to recieve MEA's A330s, it might launch destinations. Munich, and a Rome/Milan trip would be the likely choices I believe.
MIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9031 times:
I am still waiting for another gulf airline to serve Madrid, only Qatar is doing, and I think there are a gap for another one, to link MAD with South Asia and Oceania.
Adriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 493 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8606 times:
don't know, this hardly strikes me that there's a feasible O&D market. I would understand if the reasoning behind that is to connect WAW to GF network and allow polish passengers to fly via BAH to GF destinations, but still...
AirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 852 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7991 times:
Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 3): Well, Rome, Milan, Munich, and Amsterdam must all be served by widebodies (A330s or A340s). However, Moscow and Warsaw can both see A32Xs as they have sufficient range for these flights.
Yes to Moscow and Warsaw A32X have sufficient range for direct flights:
- Etihad will serve AUH-DME and AUH-Minsk with A320 and A319
- MEA will launch BEY-Moscow with A32X
- Aeroflot is already operating SVO-DXB with A320
- And when QR started DME it was with A319, now daily A332/A333
CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 63 Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7862 times:
Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 3): Well, Rome, Milan, Munich, and Amsterdam must all be served by widebodies (A330s or A340s). However, Moscow and Warsaw can both see A32Xs as they have sufficient range for these flights.
A320 could do MUC or FCO from BAH no worries. GF also have A321s which would be considerably smarter on such routes, and even 738Ws if you want more choice. I cant remember if they have any A319s or not.
I still expect WAW and DME to be A320, and the rest to be A332, but they do have narrowbodies to do it if they wanted to.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
LJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4142 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7582 times:
Quoting GF-A330 (Thread starter):
As part of its summer schedule for 2009, the Bahraini national carrier says it is hoping to launch flights to Amsterdam, Rome, Milan, Munich, Moscow and Warsaw.
And again Gulf Air plans to return to AMS.... I wonder how long it will last this time.
Soups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3437 posts, RR: 15 Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7479 times:
Would be good to see GF flying to ACC.
ACC is crying out for a gulf airline (mainly for connections to Asia) as currently only EK flies there and their prices can be very high.
Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
SWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5022 times:
Quoting LJ (Reply 12): And again Gulf Air plans to return to AMS.... I wonder how long it will last this time.
Well, there is already a bit of code-sharing going on with KLM, so why not make it a proper deal and let GF connect on the USA routes from AMS in exchange for GF's Iran and Pakistan connections for KLM.
Although I don't believe anything of all this until I see it properly on paper.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4954 times:
Quoting Oa260 (Reply 2):
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
No return to Dublin - which was rumoured a while ago; that's a pity.
They wouldnt get the business now. EY has is sussed. EK is the only one that could knock EY off its pirch here in Dublin.
Such a shame..I was fortunate to fly DUB-BAH last year...great flight..
AsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4900 times:
Gulf Air should put its house in order first. Fix the horrendous punctuality record, low staff morale and corruption in management, deteriorating A/C interiors and service and above all, turn in a PROFIT before venturing into more loss making ventures.
Gulf Air is probably the worse airline in the Gulf right now. They have other problems to think of before propagating more bad service into Europe.
Bahrain Airport is also in very dire need of expansion. EK's Terminal 3 will simply mean it is light years ahead of GF.
Please Gulf Air get it right like you used to long ago.
Higherflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 128 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4649 times:
SWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4166 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15): Such a shame..I was fortunate to fly DUB-BAH last year...great flight..
Yeah...that was indeed one of the worst decisions ever together with the SIN SYD pullout...
Although I heard a rumour there where some political agreements as well between Abu Dhabi and Bahrain on this matter.
Same as the sudden 767 withdrawal and EY in need for 777 crews...
Quoting AsoRock (Reply 16): Gulf Air should put its house in order first. Fix the horrendous punctuality record, low staff morale and corruption in management, deteriorating A/C interiors and service and above all, turn in a PROFIT before venturing into more loss making ventures.
Corruption
Thats indeed the worst bid and I don't see much improvement here...
Let's hope they can sort this out for once...
Profit
See the corruption.
A/C interiors
Besides the older 340's and the 320's and an older IFE we are not that bad at all and they are working on this matter as we speak.
low staff morale
In the pink palace, maybe, but in the sky where it counts, defenitly not.
punctuality record
There are huge improvements here compared to previous years and compared to the local competition.
Service
Check my profile to know why I disagree and I know at least a dozen genuine customers who are very happy.
Also here we are making serious improvements lately.
Quoting AsoRock (Reply 16): Bahrain Airport is also in very dire need of expansion. EK's Terminal 3 will simply mean it is light years ahead of GF.
A brand new terminal for GF will be build where the new tower is situated and there is even talk of a full GF ground handling for the future,
Actually as a business traveller, would you be connecting in the tiny BAH terminal or the mega super DXB miles from the lounges and gates?
You could use lightspeed indeed to make a comfortable connection in DXB in the future.
We still have a lot to do, but we are defenitly working on it and soon when the brand new Airbusses and 787's arrive, together with the new terminal and ground services in BAH, things could change dramatically.
The experience and morale is there, just a little bit less corruption and off we go!
Ojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2785 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4113 times:
If GF is actually serious about itself, I would like to see them prosper.
Of the airlines I have traveled, GF is probably the worst airlines I ever traveled, well maybe they are better than BG. Rude staff across all departments, old aircrafts poor timings and punctuality that needed to be worked upon.
I have heard that GF is improving off lately, but then having traveled them for almost 10 years ( because we were forced to) the nightmarish experiences are too much.
A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep
Oa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24894 posts, RR: 60 Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 3931 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15): Such a shame..I was fortunate to fly DUB-BAH last year...great flight..
Yes , for some reason they never captured the trade and passengers like EY have managed to do . They should have stayed and promoted it more. It would have worked as EY are now proving.
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Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3723 posts, RR: 25 Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3857 times:
So, what are the chances of GF returning to the US with their own metal?
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