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Gulf Air Adding Six European Destinations  
User currently offlineGF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10369 times:

Gulf Air is poised for a major expansion in the long-haul market, adding up to six European destinations to its network next year.

As part of its summer schedule for 2009, the Bahraini national carrier says it is hoping to launch flights to Amsterdam, Rome, Milan, Munich, Moscow and Warsaw.

However, the decision on whether to go ahead depends on the level of the oil price. At $100-110 a barrel, the company will launch three or four destinations, and then review launching a further two or three.

However, any rise in the cost of fuel beyond that level could limit the number of new destinations, or even lead to the whole expansion programme being postponed.

"We have to decide which markets have the potential to bring enough passengers to Bahrain," says Bjorn Naf, chief executive officer of Gulf Air

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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10324 times:

No return to Dublin - which was rumoured a while ago; that's a pity.

User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10279 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
No return to Dublin - which was rumoured a while ago; that's a pity.

They wouldnt get the business now. EY has is sussed. EK is the only one that could knock EY off its pirch here in Dublin.


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1883 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10117 times:

Well, Rome, Milan, Munich, and Amsterdam must all be served by widebodies (A330s or A340s). However, Moscow and Warsaw can both see A32Xs as they have sufficient range for these flights.

With GF due to recieve MEA's A330s, it might launch destinations. Munich, and a Rome/Milan trip would be the likely choices I believe.



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User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1897 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10041 times:

I am still waiting for another gulf airline to serve Madrid, only Qatar is doing, and I think there are a gap for another one, to link MAD with South Asia and Oceania.

Why no GF??


User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9902 times:

Warsaw, I'd like to see this, looks like a niche for GF. Hopefully they can offer some good connections to the Middle East and Asia.

KS/codeshare



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User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9714 times:



Quoting GF-A330 (Thread starter):
and Warsaw

...really?


User currently offlineAdriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 527 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9616 times:



Quoting CastropRauxel (Reply 6):
and Warsaw

Why not? huge city, getting richer by the day. Millions of Poles live in OZ and elsewhere..seems to make sense.. Smile


User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9585 times:



Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 7):
Why not?

don't know, this hardly strikes me that there's a feasible O&D market. I would understand if the reasoning behind that is to connect WAW to GF network and allow polish passengers to fly via BAH to GF destinations, but still...


User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 892 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9001 times:



Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 3):
Well, Rome, Milan, Munich, and Amsterdam must all be served by widebodies (A330s or A340s). However, Moscow and Warsaw can both see A32Xs as they have sufficient range for these flights.

Yes to Moscow and Warsaw A32X have sufficient range for direct flights:

- Etihad will serve AUH-DME and AUH-Minsk with A320 and A319

- MEA will launch BEY-Moscow with A32X

- Aeroflot is already operating SVO-DXB with A320

- And when QR started DME it was with A319, now daily A332/A333


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8872 times:



Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 3):
Well, Rome, Milan, Munich, and Amsterdam must all be served by widebodies (A330s or A340s). However, Moscow and Warsaw can both see A32Xs as they have sufficient range for these flights.

A320 could do MUC or FCO from BAH no worries. GF also have A321s which would be considerably smarter on such routes, and even 738Ws if you want more choice. I cant remember if they have any A319s or not.

I still expect WAW and DME to be A320, and the rest to be A332, but they do have narrowbodies to do it if they wanted to.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3339 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8626 times:



Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 7):
Why not? huge city, getting richer by the day. Millions of Poles live in OZ and elsewhere..seems to make sense..

why not? because GF no longer serves Australia, let a lone Singapore...


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8592 times:



Quoting GF-A330 (Thread starter):

As part of its summer schedule for 2009, the Bahraini national carrier says it is hoping to launch flights to Amsterdam, Rome, Milan, Munich, Moscow and Warsaw.

And again Gulf Air plans to return to AMS.... I wonder how long it will last this time.


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8489 times:

Would be good to see GF flying to ACC.
ACC is crying out for a gulf airline (mainly for connections to Asia) as currently only EK flies there and their prices can be very high.



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User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6032 times:



Quoting LJ (Reply 12):
And again Gulf Air plans to return to AMS.... I wonder how long it will last this time.

Well, there is already a bit of code-sharing going on with KLM, so why not make it a proper deal and let GF connect on the USA routes from AMS in exchange for GF's Iran and Pakistan connections for KLM.

Although I don't believe anything of all this until I see it properly on paper.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5964 times:



Quoting Oa260 (Reply 2):

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
No return to Dublin - which was rumoured a while ago; that's a pity.

They wouldnt get the business now. EY has is sussed. EK is the only one that could knock EY off its pirch here in Dublin.

Such a shame..I was fortunate to fly DUB-BAH last year...great flight.. yes 


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User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5910 times:

Gulf Air should put its house in order first. Fix the horrendous punctuality record, low staff morale and corruption in management, deteriorating A/C interiors and service and above all, turn in a PROFIT before venturing into more loss making ventures.

Gulf Air is probably the worse airline in the Gulf right now. They have other problems to think of before propagating more bad service into Europe.

Bahrain Airport is also in very dire need of expansion. EK's Terminal 3 will simply mean it is light years ahead of GF.

Please Gulf Air get it right like you used to long ago.


User currently offlineHigherflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5659 times:



Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 10):
A320 could do MUC or FCO from BAH no worries.

GF used to serve FCO with the 320.


User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5176 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15):
Such a shame..I was fortunate to fly DUB-BAH last year...great flight..

Yeah...that was indeed one of the worst decisions ever together with the SIN SYD pullout...
Although I heard a rumour there where some political agreements as well between Abu Dhabi and Bahrain on this matter.
Same as the sudden 767 withdrawal and EY in need for 777 crews...

Quoting AsoRock (Reply 16):
Gulf Air should put its house in order first. Fix the horrendous punctuality record, low staff morale and corruption in management, deteriorating A/C interiors and service and above all, turn in a PROFIT before venturing into more loss making ventures.

Corruption  checkmark 
Thats indeed the worst bid and I don't see much improvement here...
Let's hope they can sort this out for once...
Profit  checkmark 
See the corruption.
A/C interiors  no 
Besides the older 340's and the 320's and an older IFE we are not that bad at all and they are working on this matter as we speak.
low staff morale  no 
In the pink palace, maybe, but in the sky where it counts, defenitly not.
punctuality record  no 
There are huge improvements here compared to previous years and compared to the local competition.
Service  no 
Check my profile to know why I disagree and I know at least a dozen genuine customers who are very happy.
Also here we are making serious improvements lately.

Quoting AsoRock (Reply 16):
Bahrain Airport is also in very dire need of expansion. EK's Terminal 3 will simply mean it is light years ahead of GF.

A brand new terminal for GF will be build where the new tower is situated and there is even talk of a full GF ground handling for the future,
Actually as a business traveller, would you be connecting in the tiny BAH terminal or the mega super DXB miles from the lounges and gates?
You could use lightspeed indeed to make a comfortable connection in DXB in the future.

We still have a lot to do, but we are defenitly working on it and soon when the brand new Airbusses and 787's arrive, together with the new terminal and ground services in BAH, things could change dramatically.
The experience and morale is there, just a little bit less corruption and off we go!


User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5123 times:

If GF is actually serious about itself, I would like to see them prosper.

Of the airlines I have traveled, GF is probably the worst airlines I ever traveled, well maybe they are better than BG. Rude staff across all departments, old aircrafts poor timings and punctuality that needed to be worked upon.

I have heard that GF is improving off lately, but then having traveled them for almost 10 years ( because we were forced to) the nightmarish experiences are too much.



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User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4941 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15):
Such a shame..I was fortunate to fly DUB-BAH last year...great flight..  

Yes , for some reason they never captured the trade and passengers like EY have managed to do . They should have stayed and promoted it more. It would have worked as EY are now proving.


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4020 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

So, what are the chances of GF returning to the US with their own metal?

Thomas



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