Elite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2760 posts, RR: 10 Posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8473 times:
Israel now has a step on scanner that saves passengers the hassle of removing their shoes . . . wonder if this technology will ever come to the US and other countries. Personally I hate removing my shoes so it would be great if the US would follow suit.
That's my question too. In Europe or Asia at the airports I have been to, no one removes their shoes. So we put people on a US registered airplane in a foreign country without removing their shoes but here in the US, everyone gets their shoes scanned? What is the point of this?
2175301 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 982 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8277 times:
Quoting DTW757 (Reply 3): So we put people on a US registered airplane in a foreign country without removing their shoes but here in the US, everyone gets their shoes scanned?
What is the point of this?
Take your pick:
1) The US TSA agents like smelly toes and shoes, or nicely done toenails, or are looking for a guy with nicely done toenails (who would likely be a threat - at least to some).
2) It is also the highlight of some agents days on seeing passengers get frustrated and upset with the process.
3) It presents the image to a critical mass of uneducated folks that the TSA is doing something effective to improve airplane security. Don't you have any idea how effective a weapon a shoe can be... (ever get kicked where it counts...).
4) The TSA is in collusion with the US sock industry to promote the more rapid replacement of socks, figuring that people will more quickly replace socks that look somewhat worn or have holes in the toes if they have to fully display their old socks in public.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10241 posts, RR: 40 Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8246 times:
I hate Shoe Carnival Airports.
I had to go through this circus several times at Washington Dulles. I was connecting to fly to Buenos Aires then on my way back I had to go out of the terminal to catch the Shuttle Bus to the Air and Space Museum.
I had to go through the Shoe Carnival to go back into the terminal to catch the flight to Munich.
They also had the Shoe Carnival in Frankfurt before we boarded the flight to Washington Dulles.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
Mcmurdomech From Argentina, joined May 2008, 12 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8173 times:
Two weeks ago in FCO before boarding AA235 for JFK we had to take our shoes off. By the way, boarding was a circle. Boarding passes taken upstairs , no line organization, and take a long esculator down to the jetway.
Mcr From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 125 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8060 times:
It's simply not true that nobody has to take their shoes off at the airport in Europe. It varies depending on the airport (or even which specific terminal), possibly where you're flying to, and certainly what sort of shoes you're wearing. It may even just come down to the personal whim of the security agent: I've flown the same route several times this year, almost always in my usual jeans and boots, and there is no definite pattern as to whether or not I have to remove them.
KLMflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7929 times:
I do believe removing shoes and laptops is simply a psychological reason to provide passengers with the idea that by doing so they have the impression of a safety measure. period.
And since Americans in general do tend to follow rules more than Europeans do (at least in Southern Europe) very few complain and everyone comply with this rule.
Personally I find it a useless, time-consuming process with limited, real effect, except the long lines at security checkpoints.
Isn't it silly to remove shoes and laptops when technology can check whether or not a passenger is carrying dangerous items?
I always wonder why I do not have to remove shoes and laptops in Europe and in Asia but here in the US it remains the rule (!!!)
Isn't it stupid to insist in applying a method that it does not prove to be valid?
Also, when abroad, you can recognize the Americans at the security lines because they are the only passengers removing shoes and laptops, even when not required to do so, and that gives you the idea of how they made it here in the US to instill the idea that by doing so it is safe, or safer (!!!).
Mcr From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 125 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7895 times:
"In the UK you don't have to take your laptop out either anymore!"
Again... NOT true.
There are SOME terminals where you don't have to (eg LHR T5), but at most of them laptops still have to go through the machine in their own tray, out of your laptop bag (eg LCY, MAN, LGW, LHR T1, LHR T3...).
KLMflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7841 times:
In Italy removing shoes and laptops is applied differently from airport to airport.
While at the 2 major airports in Milan (MXP and LIN) you're no longer required to remove shoes, laptops and liquids (yes, even liquids), at the 3rd airport in the area (BGY: Milan Bergamo-Orio al Serio) you're required to remove the laptop and even turning it on (!!!).
At Rome-FCO same as in Milan (no more removing shoes, laptops and liquids) with the exception of flights to the USA and Israel (so that passenger going to those 2 destinations are prepared well in advance on the security screening they will experience once they reach those destinations).
FXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7023 posts, RR: 93 Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 7818 times:
I was at EWR a month or so ago for work and in line for TSA check and they made some lady take her strappy heels off. She ended up getting a run in her nylons and blamed it on TSA making her remove her heels. She was livid.
TSA needs to do away with the liquid ban too. Silly.
777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1401 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 7703 times:
I had to take my shoes off just yestarday in MIA, and it was a bit more annoying thau usual, don't know why, but this time it just felt really depressing, I felt treated like a convicted. Later on, took a domestic flight in COlombia, and trust, security is tight here, and no shoes off at all.
Next flights: AV BOG-ADZ-BOG, AV-UA BOG-IAD-ORD-IAD-BOG, BOG-FLL-BOG, LA BOG-MIA-BOG J
Every time I fly through FRA I have to take my shoes off because they set the hand held scanner off due to a plate in the sole. Taking your shoes off is unheard of here although the laptop out is standard procedure now.
After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...