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TW 763 Engine Type?  
User currently offlineAtlanta From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 473 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

What engines did this TW 763 have?




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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26166 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

PW4000's

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User currently offlineAtlanta From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 473 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2420 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
PW4000's

Thanks, information much appreciated!  Smile



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User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1259 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

I thought these were GE, since AA took them. Unless they didn't keep them, because all of AAs 767s are GE.


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User currently offlineTreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 671 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

I'm pretty sure most of TW's 762ER's were PW powered, Although there might have been a few GE powered 763ERs flown.

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 3):
I thought these were GE, since AA took them. Unless they didn't keep them, because all of AAs 767s are GE.




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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4071 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2322 times:



Quoting Treebeard787 (Reply 4):
I'm pretty sure most of TW's 762ER's were PW powered,

All the TWA B762 that came to ARN had PW JT9D7R engines. I never saw a B763 here.


User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2468 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2294 times:

All of "TW'bs" 767's wre Pratt powered IIRC. When they merged, AA dumped TWA 76's but I don't know if they were ever replaced. I know that the plan was for AA to order GE powered 767's one for one, not sure if that ever materialized.


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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

AA didn't take any of TWA's 767's. Hell, they dumped the 717's, DC-9's, many of the MD-80's, and then all of their 757's are mostly at DL now. Not to mention many of their employees are not on property anymore.

What gain did they really get, other than slots?

DeltaGuy


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3777 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2195 times:



Quoting AA777223 (Reply 3):
I thought these were GE, since AA took them. Unless they didn't keep them, because all of AAs 767s are GE.

I'm not sure if TW's 767s ever actually flew for AA, they were dumped almost immediately and AA put a new order in for more 763s(10?)

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 7):
Not to mention many of their employees are not on property anymore.

There are a few pilots and F/As still running around.

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 7):
What gain did they really get, other than slots?

At face value, not much. But no one could have predicted 9/11, and I do believe more of what was TW would still be around had 9/11 not happened.



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User currently offlineBDL2STL2PVG From China, joined Jun 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2186 times:



Quoting 777STL (Reply 8):
not sure if TW's 767s ever actually flew for AA, they were dumped almost immediately and AA put a new order in for more 763s(10?)

AA did fly the TWA 763s. They kept them in the TWA colors and did not create the transitional paintjob. The TWA logo and Trans World name remained. In mid 02 it was announced that "all planes were repainted" but this did not include the 763s which were being phased out. I fly one in early October 2002 as a sub for a 757 on the STL-DEN route. The a/c was painted in the earlier paint scheme - red on white - vs. the final TW scheme.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Just for every one's information, you can tell that the engine in question is a Pratt product because the precooler outflow vanes are on the LEFT side of the engine. On a GE CF-6, they're located on the RIGHT.
On a Rolls-Royce, they're located... well we're not sure where we put them, we're British. Hence ours spin backwards.

In case anyone isn't sure what I'm referring to, I'm talking about the four vertical vanes in the core cowl, forward of the exhaust cone.

Hope that helps!


User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2114 times:



Quoting 777STL (Reply 8):
I'm not sure if TW's 767s ever actually flew for AA, they were dumped almost immediately and AA put a new order in for more 763s(10?)

AA ordered 9 763s + 2 777s to replace TWA 767-300s and move the A300s off of transatlantic routes. The goal at the time was to only fly 767-300s and 777s across the Atlantic, move A300s to the Caribbean and Florida, and eliminate the sub fleet of Pratt powered ex-TW 767s.

These 11 aircraft were the last widebodies received by American, as Boeing didn't let them defer them.

IIRC the last TW 763 left service just before the St. Louis hub was closed in November 2003.


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

I usually go by the visual of the exhaust nacelle being more curvy on a PW and straighter on a GE


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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4071 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2030 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 10):
On a Rolls-Royce, they're located... well we're not sure where we put them, we're British. Hence ours spin backwards

On the RB211 they are in the pylon. The HPSOV is in the interservices fairing (the strut inside the engine) and the rest is in the pylon. RB211s are just different, the core engine is bare, the C ducts do not open (except on the B757), the accessories are all on the fan case.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2025 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 13):
On the RB211 they are in the pylon.

It was a joke. Nonetheless, I learned from what you wrote, so thank you.
They still turn backwards, though.  Smile


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4071 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2001 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 14):
It was a joke. Nonetheless, I learned from what you wrote, so thank you.

I realised that, but have to defend the RB211. It may turn backwards, but compared to a JT9 it was so easy to work on, with 90pc of the components under the fan cowl. No opening of C ducts for us!


User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1259 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1930 times:



Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 11):
These 11 aircraft were the last widebodies received by American, as Boeing didn't let them defer them

Not to split hairs, but I believe AA received 2 new 772s last year for the China routes.



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User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1852 times:



Quoting AA777223 (Reply 16):
Not to split hairs, but I believe AA received 2 new 772s last year for the China routes.

Completely forgot those, delivered 2006, the 767s and 777s from the order place in mid 2001 were delivered 2002-2003.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8513 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1695 times:
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The 767-200ER fleet had P&W JT9D-7R4D engines. They started on the domestic side but went to Europe when TWA pioneered 767 flights with 60 minute ETOPS.

User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1985 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1619 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
filler

filler

Watch out...some overzealous mod might see it and delete your post that has complete relevancy to the topic cause you put "filler" in the reply!


User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

Didn't AA just basically dissolve TWA to get rid of one more competitor? I don't think even in any good economic times that they would have merged the employees. Maybe the airplanes if anything but they really had it out to screw over the employees, especially the pilots.

User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3777 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1533 times:



Quoting 413X3 (Reply 20):
Didn't AA just basically dissolve TWA to get rid of one more competitor? I don't think even in any good economic times that they would have merged the employees. Maybe the airplanes if anything but they really had it out to screw over the employees, especially the pilots.

American itself couldn't have cared less about screwing over the TW employees. It was AA's existing unions that took care of that.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1484 times:



Quoting 413X3 (Reply 20):
Didn't AA just basically dissolve TWA to get rid of one more competitor?


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Quoting 777STL (Reply 21):
American itself couldn't have cared less about screwing over the TW employees. It was AA's existing unions that took care of that.

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