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Jet Airways Re-hires All Sacked 1000 Empoyees!  
User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1428 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7606 times:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ff_to_work/articleshow/3605473.cms

amazing just amazing!

Regards
Nitin


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7493 times:

Somebody will call him soft.
I say, GOOD FOR HIM.
Finally, management that isn't all about cold, hard numbers!
The world could use a little more of that right now.


User currently offlineTylerDurden From United States of America, joined May 2008, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7458 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
Somebody will call him soft.
I say, GOOD FOR HIM.
Finally, management that isn't all about cold, hard numbers!
The world could use a little more of that right now.

I'll be the first to say there way likely some threat of legal, corporate, or regulatory action here...
Not that I'm being cynical.
 Smile


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7448 times:

So was it the wrong decision 2 days ago or not.

If he had any doubts 2 days ago, then I would be somewhat sore if I was a Manager and he did not say something.

I can not see how the BOD can remain.


User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 833 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7382 times:

i am surprised they used the word sacked in a newspaper.Maybe my english is bad, but i thought it was a slang word.
Anyway,
Congrats to all the employees who are now rehired.Must be great to have a boss like that



I prefer to be crazy and happy rather than normal and bitter
User currently offlineHAIRyBUS From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7358 times:

"Naresh Goyal also mentioned that he did not took the decision of calling back the sacked employees due to any pressure- neither the management or any political. He said, “ The decision is my own.”"

No political pressure ..my brown *ss. Mr Raj Thackeray is the only reason for re-hiring all the fired employees.

[Edited 2008-10-16 12:20:12]

User currently offlineAF-A319 From France, joined Oct 1999, 603 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 6968 times:

NG is just crazy....! Why didn't he prevent the sacking in the first place? He now appears as someone who's got no control over the management of his company...! Can anyone explain?

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13549 posts, RR: 100
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 6888 times:
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From the link:

Quote:
For me economics cannot be the sole factor and I will go ahead with my conscience.”

Does Jet have the cash reserves to be this generous? Its a great thing for the employees... but demand for air travel in India and to/from India is less than the supply... Something has to give. Airlines must be run as a business...

Has 9W received a cash infusion that I am unaware of?

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 6733 times:

Looks like political interference got NG thinking.Although his reason seems to be different.
I'm happy for those youngsters though.
Welcome Back.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5130 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 6683 times:

Only in India  Smile. I am glad that protest have a place in a democracy. Now, Mr. Goyal needs to figure out how to take the airline back to black. I think he can do it.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 9292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 6630 times:

Let me be on the list of people who say, Good for him, or them. This is not the way corporate thinking goes in the USA.  thumbsup   thumbsup 


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 6285 times:

I wonder if the political parties concerned will lure these youngsters to form a union with them....will they refuse.....
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 941 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5973 times:



Quoting HAIRyBUS (Reply 5):

 checkmark  spot on. Check out www.theaustralian.news.com.au/busine...ory/0,28124,24506833-23349,00.html
this says it all, no hire,no fly



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User currently offlineTylerDurden From United States of America, joined May 2008, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5285 times:



Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 10):
Let me be on the list of people who say, Good for him, or them. This is not the way corporate thinking goes in the USA.

Thank goodness!

No BOD would put up with that kind of incompetence.


User currently offlineKiramakora From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5014 times:



Quoting TN486 (Reply 12):
checkmark spot on. Check out www.theaustralian.news.com.au/busine...ory/0,28124,24506833-23349,00.html
this says it all, no hire,no fly



Quoting HAIRyBUS (Reply 5):
"Naresh Goyal also mentioned that he did not took the decision of calling back the sacked employees due to any pressure- neither the management or any political. He said, “ The decision is my own.”"

No political pressure ..my brown *ss. Mr Raj Thackeray is the only reason for re-hiring all the fired employees.

Always interesting to hear commentary on those outside India. I was actually at the press conference, and I was shocked at how emotional Mr. Goyal was. There may be political and other factors playing in the background, but I was actually moved by Mr. Goyal - a true achievement given how cynical I generally am.

In case you have not noticed, those dictating free-market policies that have gotten the world to a mess are the ones who are nationalizing the fundamental tenets of their economy. Surely, we can "learn" a few things.


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3130 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4398 times:



Quoting HAIRyBUS (Reply 5):
Mr Raj Thackeray is the only reason for re-hiring all the fired employees

 checkmark 

Quoting TylerDurden (Reply 13):
Thank goodness!

No BOD would put up with that kind of incompetence.

I think companies in the US have taken much worse decisions.....haven't you been reading the news lately?  wink 


User currently offlineFlyingSikh From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3792 times:

Like I said the other day, I am no fan of Mr Raj Thackeray....but he should be applauded for a job well done here.

User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3721 times:

I don't think it is all that cut and dried just yet. Jet's arrogant attitude towards PR blew up on their face, the company does not have an effective PR handler unlike Kingfisher which has Prakash Mirpuri who is extremely effective. I still believe, looking at the numbers, that Jet will 'remove' employees by far more insidious ways - not-confirming probationers, making sure people fail DGCA tests - there sare ways and means in India to get things done, and as much as I would like to see everyone keep their jobs, I would also like to see Jet survive...


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User currently offlineQualityDr From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

I wonder: Is it how he feels, or was he threatened? Last month while I was in India, a CEO of a multinational subsidiary was hunted down by amob of laid-off workers. IIRC, the term used was "bludgeoned to death.". And that mob wasn't nearly as big as 1,000 people!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3513395.cms

Seems labor relations in India is a mystery to us here in America...



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3371 times:

I'm sure the reduction in staff will continue,but in small numbers & by other means.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineFlyhigh@tom From United Arab Emirates, joined Sep 2001, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3309 times:

To make matters clear...9W did not "sack" any permanent employees. It only sacked those that were on probation. IF my memory serves me right while i was on probation for 6 months, it clearly was said in my contract that i can be asked to leave on a 24hr notice period without any reason assigned.

9W actually went out of their way and gave a month's pay for those "sacked" employees.

I was reading on some of the news articles and was amazed on some of the quotes given by some of the "sacked" FAs. One of them was just a few months into her probation period and she claimed that she had bought a new car on installment basis and now that she did not have a job how was she to repay the car loan? I mean what the hell???? When i was under probation i never went out and bought brand new car!!!! I waited for 2 years before i purchased a brand new car!
Another FA claimed that she was getting a salary of only Rs 26000 per month. ie about $600 and she could not save anything out of that! My God, In India you can live life king size with even Rs 26000...even in Bombay. When i had a similar salary, 4 of us shared a 2 room apartment and we coudl save atleast 50% of our earnings. Now just because one leads a flamboyant lifestyle that they cannot sustain....they go about bashing the mgmt?

And what is the problem with Raj Thackrey? Is he blind to other industry sectors? why target only airlines which anyway are in deep red! As said by many here i guess it was his arm twisting tactics that has led 9w to rehire these probationers.

This is kind of a wrong precedent because this means in future 9w will not be able to "sack" nonperforming employees in their probation period!


User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 9292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3292 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 15):
I think companies in the US have taken much worse decisions.....haven't you been reading the news lately?


Truer words were never spoken



 checkmark   checkmark 



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 6 days ago) and read 3094 times:



Quoting Flyhigh@tom (Reply 20):
This is kind of a wrong precedent because this means in future 9w will not be able to "sack" nonperforming employees in their probation period!

If I were those employees I wouldn't do the things they did, I am very sure 9W will not confirm any of those employees when their probationary periods end. Jet needs to appoint a better PR agency - no wait, they need to appoint a PR agency and a professional spokesperson not the irritable Saroj Dutta or the effusive WPS or the invisible NG.

I'm writing this as a business journalist who covers aviation - we all know that the situation is dire, and the airline industry in India, is for lack of another word f***ed. Jobs will go. Maybe not today, but they will go and there will be far more than 2000 jobs going. Watch this space.



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User currently offlineOdysseus9001 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2963 times:



Quoting Kiramakora (Reply 14):

Let me be on the list of people who say, Good for him, or them. This is not the way corporate thinking goes in the USA.



Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 10):

Thank goodness!

No BOD would put up with that kind of incompetence.

Are you kidding me? The events of the past 5 years have shown repeated examples of financial corporation boards who either have little idea of their business or did not perform their responsibility to the shareholders of their company. Being on the Board of Directors is not supposed to be the sinecure and status symbol that many directors seem to perceive it to be.

I would further add that in some of these examples, when they did represent the shareholders, they tended to favor short-term "grab and run" investors over long-term investors who would have a larger interest in the long-term health and profitability of a corporation, including investments in employees and equipment. Why else sell credit default swaps on securities of uncertain worth, if not blinded by short-term gain and perverse incentives embedded in CEO compensation packages approved by a board of directors?

I would make no assumptions about the effectiveness of any board of directors in any firm of any country without firm evidence of their competence and diligence, along with a balanced regulatory environment that ensures sufficient visibility for investors to make informed decisions.

John


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13549 posts, RR: 100
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2838 times:
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Quoting Flyhigh@tom (Reply 20):
Now just because one leads a flamboyant lifestyle that they cannot sustain....they go about bashing the mgmt?

Are we talking India...or America?  Wink

How is Jet's cash position? Thanks in advance,
Lightsaber



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25 HAWK21M : very true. regds MEL
26 WestWing : The initial reports implied that all of the initial 800 laid off employees were probationary employees, they were given a one month severance package
27 InitRef : And this round goes to NG: Anybody who thinks NG is not involved in day2day decisions at 9W is mistaken. e.g NG is on the phone with flight ops and t
28 WarRI1 : I am the one who said good for him, this is not the way corporate thinking goes in the US. in reply 10. I would not want there to be any confusion wh
29 VonRichtofen : Given the events in the US economy over the last 6 months the USA isn't exactly seen as a bastion of executive competence either...
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