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The West Wing And "Air Force One"  
User currently offlineSampa737 From Brazil, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14230 times:

One of my favorite tv shows is The West Wing. I know the inside of the 747 is a set. However, is the 747 you see outside a prop or the real thing?

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User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 14186 times:

It's a prop, sort of. Actually, it's a real 747 (I forget whose they used) and digitally added the AF1 paint job in post production.


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User currently offlineSampa737 From Brazil, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 14012 times:

Thanks for the answer. I wondered if it had been digitally redone after. I'd like to see what it looked before!

User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13886 times:

Sampa737 -

Doesn't seem like there was a definitive answer, but it was discussed in a previous posting. Either VS or KE. Take your pick, or maybe someone has a more definitive answer.

"West Wing Air Force One"



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User currently offlineAirCanadaA330 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 13830 times:

I know that in the special features they showed the "president" boarding a VS 747, so Im guessing they used VS a lot!

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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18704 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 13751 times:



Quoting Moose135 (Reply 1):
It's a prop, sort of. Actually, it's a real 747 (I forget whose they used) and digitally added the AF1 paint job in post production.

I know for the Movie "Air Force One" they actually rented/leased/somehow got hold of a 747-200, painted it in AF-1 colors, and used it for the ground scenes. They used CGI for the air-to-air shots.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24080 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11759 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
I know for the Movie "Air Force One" they actually rented/leased/somehow got hold of a 747-200, painted it in AF-1 colors, and used it for the ground scenes. They used CGI for the air-to-air shots.

It was a 747-100 (not -200) of American International Airways, a charter carrier that later became Kalitta Air. The aircraft was originally delivered to JL in 1970 as JA8013.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18704 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11688 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
It was a 747-100 (not -200) of American International Airways, a charter carrier that later became Kalitta Air. The aircraft was originally delivered to JL in 1970 as JA8013.

I stand corrected. Thank you.


User currently offlineSampa737 From Brazil, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11655 times:

But for The West WIng, it was all digital?

For Air Force One, does anyone have any idea on the cost of painting the plane? And did they have to paint it back?


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18704 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11611 times:



Quoting Sampa737 (Reply 8):
For Air Force One, does anyone have any idea on the cost of painting the plane? And did they have to paint it back?

I'm assuming that a condition of the lease, especially if the aircraft is not to be flown, is that it be returned in the same condition in which it was delivered.


User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11595 times:

There has been a 747 painted on one side for years as airforce one and the other side of the
plane is of another livery in the desert



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11557 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
I know for the Movie "Air Force One" they actually rented/leased/somehow got hold of a 747-200, painted it in AF-1 colors,

It was painted by Leading Edge Aviation in Amarillo, TX. It was not an 'exact' copy of the VC-25 and slight changes were required.



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User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1254 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11373 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
I know for the Movie "Air Force One" they actually rented/leased/somehow got hold of a 747-200, painted it in AF-1 colors, and used it for the ground scenes. They used CGI for the air-to-air shots.



Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 10):
There has been a 747 painted on one side for years as airforce one and the other side of the
plane is of another livery in the desert

I'd always thought these were the same plane... does anyone know what the half AF1 was actually used for?



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4773 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11109 times:

The one thing that I thought was pretty bad recently was the Transformers movie that used in some shots an old 707 (possibly a former AF1 707) just because it had all the blue etc on it.. but a 707 is half the size... considering how much the film cost and the amount of CGI etc used, was it really that hard to keep AF1 as a 747?


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User currently offlineChrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2001 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10935 times:



Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 12):
I'd always thought these were the same plane... does anyone know what the half AF1 was actually used for?

That particular 747 was a SP at VCV. It was used for a Taco Bell commercial, if I recall the story correct. Not sure if it's been turned to beer cans since I saw it in 2001...

It looked really funny when looking at it head on.


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