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LH To Concretise E-Jet Order  
User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5561 times:

Lufthansa has decided to take 18 of the E190 and 12 of the larger E195. Deliveries will be next year. The order they placed last year for 30 E190 jets was flexible so now the concretion.

Apart from some frames going to Air Dolomiti will the remaining aircrafts put into the fleet of LH Cityline or Eurowings? Any infos yet about where they will be based and/or mainly fly from?

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9033 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5526 times:
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Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
Apart from some frames going to Air Dolomiti will the remaining aircrafts put into the fleet of LH Cityline or Eurowings? Any infos yet about where they will be based and/or mainly fly from?

About that topic I hear billioins of different rumours, but nothing confirmed yet. Still a lot to discuss within LH...

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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5462 times:

Is Swiss getting any of the E-jets ordered by LH, or does it have its own aircraft on order?

Presumably LH will be increasing its E-Jet order at some stage, to provide replacement aircraft for SN?


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5442 times:
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Quoting Kaitak (Reply 2):
Is Swiss getting any of the E-jets ordered by LH, or does it have its own aircraft on order?

Presumably LH will be increasing its E-Jet order at some stage, to provide replacement aircraft for SN?

- I can see large numbers of E jets heading to Europe to replace LX & SN Avro fleets, good plane IMO.



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User currently offlineOby From Denmark, joined Aug 2008, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5424 times:

I thought that LH had just ordered heaps of the C-series. Wouldn't that be kind of stupid to have thos two relatively same aircraft in the fleet, unless they don't go to the same airline inside LH

User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5403 times:



Quoting Oby (Reply 4):
I thought that LH had just ordered heaps of the C-series. Wouldn't that be kind of stupid to have thos two relatively same aircraft in the fleet, unless they don't go to the same airline inside LH

yes they also ordered quite a few of the CRJ1000 as they are pleased with the overall performance of the 700 and especially the 900s. These jets go to Cityline for sure as they're the biggest operator of the CRJ within the LH company.


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5233 times:



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):

Apart from some frames going to Air Dolomiti will the remaining aircrafts put into the fleet of LH Cityline or Eurowings?



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 2):
Is Swiss getting any of the E-jets ordered by LH, or does it have its own aircraft on order?

This is a good question. SWISS has to replace sooner or later 20 AVRO RJ 100. But they only need an aircraft which is LCY certified. Are the E 190 and 195 both able to operate to LCY? I guess the CRJ are not.


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5134 times:



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 3):
- I can see large numbers of E jets heading to Europe to replace LX & SN Avro fleets, good plane IMO.

Me, too, and I hate that idea. More boring twins replacing magnificent quads.


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5103 times:



Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
Me, too, and I hate that idea. More boring twins replacing magnificent quads.

I also like these funny little quads. And furthermore in the SWISS seating with 5 abreast they are also very comfortable (what you can't say about all these horrible cramped 3-3 fitted AVROs/Bae 146).


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5038 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 6):
Are the E 190 and 195 both able to operate to LCY? I guess the CRJ are not.

I understand that the 190 is being certificated for LCY later this year; I'm not sure if this means both versions of the 190, i.e. the 190-100 and/or the 190-200 (195).


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4989 times:



Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):
Me, too, and I hate that idea. More boring twins replacing magnificent quads.

As a "Geschäftsführer" you would be rather interested to bring down seatmile-cost ,maintenance cost and increase passenger-comfort..
The Embraer 190's should offer better yields to both,LX and SN ,and allow the introduction of new destinations within their respective networks.
Sure it's nice to see "exotic" aircraft ( hey-I loved my flights in the TU 134 with Syrian Air..! ) but while I have a great interest in aircraft spotting I also conceive the pressure to bring down costs.



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4982 times:



Quoting Thorben (Reply 7):



Quoting ZRH (Reply 8):

as funny and magnificient they are they're getting older and older. Especially the ones of Eurowings going more and more tech which is a main issue (apart from the fuel consumption) to replace them with more modern, efficient and reliable planes.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 9):

If I'm not mistaken I heard that too or was it the E170s?
What about the idea LH subsidiary Augsburg Airways with their Dash's to operate the LCY operations on behalf of LX?


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4951 times:



Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 10):

As a "Geschäftsführer" you would be rather interested to bring down seatmile-cost ,maintenance cost and increase passenger-comfort..

I'm not an airline manager, I'm an aviation enthusiast. This all-looks-the-same from E170/190 over A320/737 over 787/A350 to 77W/A3510 is making the whole thing sort of boring.

I'm happy for every quad and every trijet I see.


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2191 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4837 times:
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Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 5):
yes they also ordered quite a few of the CRJ1000 as they are pleased with the overall performance of the 700 and especially the 900s.

Does that mean that LH is that elusive undisclosed buyer of 15 (+15) CRJ1000?



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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4682 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4682 times:



Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 13):
Does that mean that LH is that elusive undisclosed buyer of 15 (+15) CRJ1000?

That's my question, too. IIRC there hasn't been any announcement of LH buying CRJ1000s.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 1):
About that topic I hear billioins of different rumours, but nothing confirmed yet. Still a lot to discuss within LH...

What about this?

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-all-airbus-mainline-fleet-at.html

Quoting Flightglobal:
Harbarth says the last 50-seaters will leave during the 2009-10 winter timetable as 112-seat Embraer 195s are delivered. Lufthansa has 30 of the Brazilian regional jets on order, "more than two-thirds" of which are likely to be based in Munich, with the rest going to the airline's principal hub in Frankfurt.




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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4024 times:

I guess that the reason to why they went for the ER9 instead of the CRJ-1000 could maybe because Lufthansa Technik wants to gain their maintenance experience by adding another plane.


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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3853 times:



Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 13):
Does that mean that LH is that elusive undisclosed buyer of 15 (+15) CRJ1000?



Quoting A342 (Reply 14):
That's my question, too. IIRC there hasn't been any announcement of LH buying CRJ1000s.

yes you guys could be right! after checking their company website it only states an order for the CRJ900 (15 frames in total). so my mistake to say it was for the 1000s.


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