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Air Canada Leasing Out B777s?  
User currently offlineTKfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 657 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8870 times:

Havent read it here before, will Air Canada lease out 1 B777-300ER and 1 B777-200LR?

There are two B777 available in the leasing market, the descrption fits to Air Canada B777s. One 42J/228Y and one 42J/307Y Seater.

If so, Is any Airline known to take them? What is the chance that Turkish Airlines will get them?

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User currently offlinePapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8421 times:

If true I hope Delta takes both of them!

User currently offlinePowercube From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8399 times:

Umm, didn't AC just sign an agreement with ILFC to lease MORE 77Ws colour me confused.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24858 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8332 times:



Quoting Powercube (Reply 2):
Umm, didn't AC just sign an agreement with ILFC to lease MORE 77Ws colour me confused.

You may be referring to sale-leaseback transactions covering already-delivered aircraft, similar to the one below earlier this year. I believe there may have been another similar transaction.
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...leaseback-for-two-boeing-777s.aspx

I can't recall seeing anything indicating that AC has any firm commitments for more 77Ws and 77Ls than the total of 18 already ordered. I think 15 of the 18 have been delivered. 16 were ordered from Boeing and two are leased from ILFC.


User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8867 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8290 times:



Quoting TKfan (Thread starter):
There are two B777 available in the leasing market, the descrption fits to Air Canada B777s. One 42J/228Y and one 42J/307Y Seater.

Where ? not on Speednews or Boeing Capital....



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4370 times:
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Quoting TKfan (Thread starter):
Havent read it here before, will Air Canada lease out 1 B777-300ER and 1 B777-200LR?

IMMHO NOT before they have phased out the remaining (2x?) 343's in their fleet. I see those 343's are available on Speednews. Just my opinion...


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User currently offlineTKfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3532 times:



Quoting Zeke (Reply 4):

dont know if still available but on 1stOct it was, and as I said before dont know it they belong really to Air Canada

http://www.airfax.aero/jta.htm#b777

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 5):

they are two A340 Available too, Dec08/Jan09, maybe Air Canadas remaining A340


http://www.airfax.aero/jta.htm#a330


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30572 posts, RR: 84
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3230 times:
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Quoting TKfan (Reply 6):
dont know if still available but on 1stOct it was, and as I said before dont know it they belong really to Air Canada

They are still there, but Air Canada last month noted that they were anxious to get their two remaining 777s from Boeing so I can't see them wanting to suddenly wet-lease two birds to another operator.

Is it possible Airfax just collates reports and doesn't actually serve as a broker? So perhaps these planes are indeed sale-leaseback transactions as Viscount24 referenced and because the transaction hasn't been finalized yet, Airfax just collated a report saying two birds were on the market even though they will not be leaving AC's fleet.


User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3136 times:
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Quoting Stitch (Reply 7):
Is it possible Airfax just collates reports and doesn't actually serve as a broker?

Seems you are right Stitch. It's a "newsletter" published by Airfax Jet Transport Aircraft Markets. Info such as the serial no's, etc. are only accessible via an annual sub ($380).



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User currently offlineTKfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3080 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 7):

Seems you are both correct. As Viscount24 said it might be a sale-leasback transaction, didnt thought of it, just saw two available B777.
Wishful thinking. In Turkey there are rumours going around Turkish Airlines might switch to an Boeing Long Haul Fleet, so I am looking around where they can obtain some in-shape B777s...


User currently offlineTKfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

just read this topic

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4191636/

Is it possible Air Canada will wet-lease both A/C due to route cuttings?? seems especially North American Airlines have to cut capacity due to low demand?


User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2176 times:



Quoting Papatango (Reply 1):
If true I hope Delta takes both of them!

Nope. AC needs all their 777s as the A340s are rapidly leaving the fleet. If DL needs 77Ls, there is few with IFLC or GE Capital.



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