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Airlinair Starting Caen-Paris Orly  
User currently offlineAirlittoralguy From France, joined Nov 2005, 234 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2342 times:

Starting October 27 2008, airlinair will start twice daily flights between Caen CFR and Pari

Flights are flown by Beech 1900 of Chalair. Schedule is as follow :
CAEN / ORLY (temps de vol 55 mn)
A5 510 Caen 06h20 07h15 Orly
A5 513 Orly 10h30 11h20 Caen
A5 514 Caen 16h25 17h20 Orly
A5 517 Orly 20h45 21h35 Caen


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User currently onlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

Is this a PSO?

Do Airlinair interline with AF at Orly for the flights they operate under their own brand?



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User currently offlineJezUK77 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2212 times:

Another thing...

Are there many domestic airline services in France? And do they compete well against the TGV? I would imagine it would be very difficult!

Merci!


User currently offlineAirlittoralguy From France, joined Nov 2005, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

In facts there is no TGV between Paris and Normandy. Just the poor old Corail trains. One needs more time now to get from Caen or Rouen to Paris than 20 years ago !

There is no public service obligation between Caen and Paris. I don't know if airlinair will interline with air france but the pax will be able to collect miles on flying blue. Flights are sold on airlinair website.



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User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1841 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2108 times:



Quoting JezUK77 (Reply 2):
Are there many domestic airline services in France? And do they compete well against the TGV? I would imagine it would be very difficult!

Yes there is still a strong domestic network in France, despite the TGV. Some routes have been cut or frequencies reduces over the last 15 years with the development of the TGV, and this tendency will continue with the developement of the network  cry  . The TGV has the advantage until 2.5 hrs travel time. The domestic network is mostly operated by AF and its regional affiliates (Brit Air, Regional) + a few routes operated by Airlinair on behalf of AF/Brit Air. Airlinair operates also a few routes on its own, like the new route to Caen announced in this thread.
Here are some links to maps where you can see the large network of French domestic routes
For AF :
http://www.airfrance.fr/FR/fr/local/...eur/reseau/reseau_hub_province.htm

For Airlinair
http://www.airlinair.com/fr/compagnie_airlinair/compagnie_reseau.php


User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

The schedule timing seems a little strange to me. If this service is targeting the business sector for example, then the lack of a late afternoon service, departing Paris say 1700-1800 is significant. I suspect many a business traveller may not wish to wait for an evening departure as late as 2045.

From that aspect what time could one get a departing train out of Paris for Caen around 1700 and what time would that have you arriving in Caen?


User currently offlineIcna05e From France, joined Feb 2006, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

I agree with EDICHC; for a Caen-origined passenger wanting to spend the day in Paris the time span is a bit long, with a very early morning departure and a very late return. As for passengers going the other way, well they have pretty little time in Caen.

There are plenty of rail options with a journey time just short of 2 hours (source http://www.voyages-sncf.com) leaving Paris roughly every half hour. But the flight would be aimed ad Southern suburbs, since getting to St Lazare station is not that easy from all those wealthy places.


User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2821 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2004 times:



Quoting EDICHC (Reply 5):
From that aspect what time could one get a departing train out of Paris for Caen around 1700 and what time would that have you arriving in Caen?

You can get a train at 1633 and arrive in Caen at 1825. That's a 1:52 journey.

The problem with Normandy is that it's too close to Paris. The journey by car between the two cities is more or less the same as the train, so there is no need for planes, no real need for TGV.



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User currently onlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1917 times:



Quoting EDICHC (Reply 5):
The schedule timing seems a little strange to me. If this service is targeting the business sector for example, then the lack of a late afternoon service, departing Paris say 1700-1800 is significant. I suspect many a business traveller may not wish to wait for an evening departure as late as 2045.

Is this a slot issue at Orly?



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User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1851 times:



Quoting Humberside (Reply 8):
Is this a slot issue at Orly?

I considered that, but a business traveller won't  Smile


User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

Edited to remove double posting.

[Edited 2008-10-19 16:10:19]

[Edited 2008-10-19 16:11:52]

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