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Info On A Recent UA Charter Please!  
User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

Hey I was wondering if anyone has any info on where the 767-300 that flew as UAL9940 from EINN/SHA-KJFK/JFK came in from. Also where is it going out of JFK.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL9940

I got a feeling it was a MAC/CRAF trip into SHA so it will be impossible to find info from where it came from. My guess is that its a ferry back to JFK (hence being tracked and its callsign) for another RCH (Reach) flight somewhere else. My guess is it either came from FRA to HHN then to SHA and is going to go back the same way to drop troops off to pick up another MAC trip tp KWI.

Any info please!

Thanks!

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25741 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

9940 was an empty ferry. Will operate JFK-SFO on Sunday.

p.s. SHA is the airport code for Shanghai Hongqiao airport. Shannon Ireland is SNN.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineMcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2009 times:



Quoting AAH732UAL (Thread starter):


It was the ferry of a an empty 767 ac 6446. Flight 952/16th IAD-FRA diverted to SNN due to smoke in the cockpit. The passengers were taken to FRA on another aircraft that was sent to SNN. After the repairs the aircraft was ferried to JFK and the plane was supposed to be routed to SFO from JFK.


User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

Thanks guys........ I was hoping for a MAC trip Big grin but the smoke in the cockpit is even more intresting.

So SNN-FRA was another UA767 or was it another airline?


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

MAC? Don't you mean AMC? It's funny how it's changed from MAC to AMC almost 20 years ago, but people still call it MAC. I was in MAC when it changed along with everything else.

Good call on that though. It made a little more sense with SNN instead of SHA, although EINN is Europe, just don't remember all the ICAO's. An interesting tidbit, you don't see a lot of mainline carriers doing MAC flights, but they are still CRAF and can be called up when needed. Once every so often some officer from Scott AFB will do a ride on the flightdeck during a flight to make sure the airlines are up to speed as far as CRAF goes.

Here's a funny thing, not nice but troops returning home from downrange, usually don't smell too well for obvious reasons and the cabins tend to get pretty sandy and smelly. But it's still great to work a flight where troops are going home, or at least going home on leave.



EMB145 F/A, F/E, J41 F/A, F/E, because my wife clipped my wings, armchair captain
User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1940 times:



Quoting Xtoler (Reply 4):
MAC? Don't you mean AMC? It's funny how it's changed from MAC to AMC almost 20 years ago, but people still call it MAC. I was in MAC when it changed along with everything else.

Naw not that I know of..... right now it pretty much goes by MAC at UA with pretty much all the flights going into/out of KWI and HHN as RCH numbers since they have troops on board. I have seen AMC on some of the ops pages but a lot of crew still call it MAC  confused  Plus I still think the RCH callsign lists MAC

Now that I think of it I don't even think the 767 does the MAC/CRAF for UA. I think the contracts are for 744 and 772.

I thought SHA looked wrong but I really only know it as EINN  Smile


User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1920 times:



Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 5):
Plus I still think the RCH callsign lists MAC

Ok I just checked......... RCH callsign has AMC listed.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25741 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Its indeed AMC - Air Mobility Command.

MAC went way of the do do bird after the first Gulf War in 1992 about the same time SAC died as much of the USAF command structure was reorganized. AMC is provider of USAF airlifters and tanker capability. All the documents I've seen have for many years list AMC not MAC.

Ref the 767s, yes they do op military flights. They (along with US 762s, DL 763s) have aeromedical responsibilities. Not too long ago there was an exercise with stretcher litters all over the cabin instead of seats and IV bags hanging from the ceilings etc..



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

I've been out of the "War" since 1994, but still kept some old contacts who are still in. MAC is easier to say than AMC and most people know what they are talking about as far as calling it MAC. I always wondered, if we changed to Air Mobility Command, what would Army Material Command be? Even better when our Aerial Port Squadron became something like Airlift Support Squadrons, shouldn't it be ASS instead of ALSS. Last time I checked airlift was one word. Some of my higher ups didn't find much humor in that.

Do you know if US Airways are still using 76's for CRAF flights? They had a pretty cool picture in their crew room at PIT of one of their 76's configured as an Air Evac.



EMB145 F/A, F/E, J41 F/A, F/E, because my wife clipped my wings, armchair captain
User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
Ref the 767s

Ok well I have not seen nor heard of a 767 for UA in KWI or HHN yet, just 777s and 744s along with UA982/981. Plus as far as I know, only the 777 and 744 pilots carry those charts coverage areas, not that that really matters. Also up until like AUG 29 2008, all of the KWI RNAV procedures that UA and most airlines subscribe to, needed GPS/GNSS in the FMC, which IIRC only some of the Domestic and a handfull of International 767 with Pegs have. Now they are RNP1, so its now feasible I guess.

I betcha MAC sounds better then AMC to some.......

BOB, TED, and MAC I am sure there are more I am missing right now.

[Edited 2008-10-18 19:51:28]

User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1877 times:

BTW anyone got info on

UAL9984 ORD-HNL 747-400
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL9984

and

UAL9858 HNL-FAI
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL9858


User currently offlineMcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1754 times:



Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 3):
So SNN-FRA was another UA767 or was it another airline?

It was another 767.


User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1700 times:



Quoting Mcdu (Reply 11):
It was another 767.

Thanks pal!


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1696 times:



Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 10):
and

UAL9858 HNL-FAI
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...L9858

This one has to be moving some 25th Infantry Division troops.



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