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CO Reducing Carry On Bag Size 11/1  
User currently offlineADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 924 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9155 times:

Hey everyone....

Effective November 1st CO is reducing the size of bag allowed for a carry on from
51 linear inches to 45 linear inches.

from Continental.com
http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...D=E47346C422DA4EF0B15B4B70CA2E9EC5

All locations, except India and the United Kingdom 1 bag and 1 personal item (see description below) For travel on or before Oct 31, 2008 51 linear inches or 130 cm (L + W + H)

For travel on or after Nov 1, 2008 - 45 linear inches or 115 cm (L + W + H)

My question is 45 linear inches the size of a normal roll aboard bag? or is this to force people to check a bag and pay the fee?

also is this reduction in size consistent with the other major carriers?

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User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9129 times:



Quoting ADXMatt (Thread starter):
My question is 45 linear inches the size of a normal roll aboard bag?

Yes, this is the size of a standard carry-on bag. It's basically 22" tall, 14" wide, and 9" deep. I flew DL this past weekend, and they have this same restriction. My bag this size fit perfectly in the overhead bin.


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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4411 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9125 times:

Ugh I hope DL doesnt follow this one, my carryon is probably the biggest that can still fit overhead (wheel's first will very by aircraft type)

I wonder if it has to do with the holiday season? Gifts + heavy jackets = clogged bin space.

They really should make the announcement to not put jackets in the bins till all bagagge is stored up in the gate area vs on the plane.


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User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9086 times:



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 2):
Ugh I hope DL doesnt follow this one

They already have this restriction. From http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...aggage/baggage_allowance/index.jsp

Quote:
Carry-on Baggage

All Delta passengers are allowed one carry-on bag and one personal item that meet the criteria below.
Size and Weight Restrictions

If your carry-on bag doesn't meet these size and weight restrictions it must be checked, and all checked baggage rules will apply. Your bag must:

* Weigh less than 40 pounds (18 kg).
* Not exceed 45 inches (length + width + height).
* Fit easily in our SizeWise® unit (approximately 22"x14"x9").
* Fit in an overhead bin or underneath the seat in front of you.




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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9049 times:
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It's an absolutely meaningless change unless CO can somehow get their gate agents and F/As to enforce it, which isn't happening with the current restrictions. The current policy is more akin to "if it fits, it's in", irrespective of weight, size, shape or quantity.


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User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1359 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9049 times:



Quoting ADXMatt (Thread starter):
My question is 45 linear inches the size of a normal roll aboard bag? or is this to force people to check a bag and pay the fee?

It might be just to make room for more carryons.


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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2510 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9002 times:

I highly doubt they're going to really police this one, anyway. They don't even care about the multiple carry ons as it is, and that goes for every carrier I've flown.

User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8952 times:

The fact that they're even bothering changing the requirements indicates that they'll start enforcing the limits, which is good to hear.

FWIW, WN allows 10x16x24. 22" is, at least for me, too small of a roller to get a 1 week trip's worth of stuff into. with 24", I can pull off a carry on only flight. Hopefully they'll "look the other way" for 1st pax.


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User currently offlineViaggiare From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2007, 1902 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8929 times:

So contradictions in this industry have evolved to the point that ulcc Spirit has a less restrictive carry-on policy (52" = 24"x16"x12") than major legacy carriers AA, CO, and DL (45" = 22"x14"x9").


Sometimes being less developed is more civilized.
User currently offlineA318 From Bahamas, joined Jan 2008, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8918 times:

Here's a simple solution for everyone trying to bring on a weeks+ worth of clothing.......


Check your suitcase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love when passengers try and bring these huge carry-on items on board and tell me they will fit when I'm the one that works on the plane.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 20630 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8917 times:

45" is the standard size for the roller board, that all the luggage companies are working to now. So it's not a real PITA for most customers.

The bins were designed for 45" bags, so those trying to wedge 52" bags often have trouble, causing F/As problems and delaying boarding.

Now they have a rule in place that allows them to say: "you must check that as it is too big."

This will only happen when the bag doesn't fit. If the bag fits, I highly doubt anyone is going to say anything. It's not like AA and the days of checking every bag against the metal bin.


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User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1799 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8868 times:



Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 4):
It's an absolutely meaningless change unless CO can somehow get their gate agents and F/As to enforce it, which isn't happening with the current restrictions.

Very true. I flew AA to TUL a couple of weeks ago, and we were delayed on all 4 departures because of pax trying to stuff oversized bags into the overhead compartment. Guess what - it took longer to deplane too. One woman came on with a giant roll-on bag that was obviously too big to carry on. But instead of making her check it the FA took it up to FC and stowed it in a closet.

I sent AA an email, and got the customary "we appreciate your comments. . . etc." back.

With the airlines charging for bags pax are pushing the outside of the envelope on carry-ons. AA, and the other airlines, need to enforce the rules which have existed for many years.


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User currently offlineCOflyerBOS From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8623 times:

I almost always check a bag regardless. I hate having to deal with the STUPID liquid/gel rules and checking it just makes it easier.

Also, I hope they do start to enforce the rules. I've seen people come on board with way more than is allowed. I am always amazed by how much space people THINK they deserve.

Just check your bag and board the damn plane already.

Sorry, this is a major pet peave of mine.

User currently offlinePiedmontINT From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8471 times:

I guess I am with the minority here on this thread in that I absolutely refuse to check my bag unless I absolutely have to. I have a 22" rolling bag that i can easily get a weeks worth of clothes into (although just barely!) and it fits just fine in practically every overhead bin. On the E170 it does take a little bit of coaxing but it does squeeze in.

I refuse to check bags simply because I do not trust the airlines at all with my property, even my own with people I work with. Stuff gets destroyed and lost and stolen way too much and I have had my fair share of delayed and destroyed bags. So I dont check a bag ever if at all possible.

User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 8426 times:



Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 4):
The current policy is more akin to "if it fits, it's in", irrespective of weight, size, shape or quantity.

I suspect this is true in most places/airlines. At least it has been for me.

Quoting A318 (Reply 9):
Check your suitcase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree -- if they would drop the 1st bag fee.

Dave


Can I have a mojito on this flight?
User currently offlineCVG2LGA From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 581 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8268 times:



Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 7):
Hopefully they'll "look the other way" for 1st pax.

Or better yet just have different limitation for F. Otherwise why should they "look the other way"? If that is the rule, then that is the rule.

Quoting COflyerBOS (Reply 12):
I am always amazed by how much space people THINK they deserve

For example, see the quoted text above. And I'd like to add to the end of your quote: How much they think they NEED.

Been there! Charge: Overpacking. Plea: Guilty.
But I fly very much now so I realize I don't need that much. I've gone to Hawaii & Brasil for a week each before with carryon and a backpack only. Simplify.

As well, working on RJ's (CR7 CR9 forward bins- I'm 6'3) its a PITA to get a carryon twice the size of a regular carryon (or stroller gnasher . Not to mention that on the loadslip that is recorded as a carryon weight, not standard checked weight even if it weighs as much or more.
I had this happen last night working a CR9 flight, I put the oversize bag in the aft bin rather than hassling it into the tiny forward bin.

Everyone knows pax are just trying to get around the bag fee. Which is not fine by me but I don't think it will be much longer before an airline starts charging minimal fees for carryon bags too. By that I am talking of any such item that would be acceptable for checkin. Not a plastic bag given with the purchase of a newspaper, magazine, snacks and soda or merchandise.

Tchau

DA-


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User currently offlineTravaz From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8203 times:

I flew from PHX to BDL via CLE on CO last week and a husband and a wife had 3 large carry- ons. A large hanging garmet bag each and 2 roll ons each. It was hilarious watching them try to manuver all that stuff. I had a very slim laptop bag. I boarded and put my laptop in the overhead and they spotted that area and just crammed all of that crap on top of my laptop untill I stood up and got my laptop out from under thier stuff. The woman glared at me for moving her stuff. I put the laptop back on top of the mess and the women had the nerve to say I was going to crush some precious item she had in the garmet bag. No assistance or any mention of them being over the allowed items came from the gate or flight crew.  Angry Upon arrival in CLE the gentleman got up and blocked the isle for hafl a lifetime while they collected all thier crap. This is the place where the gate folks need to check some luggage.

User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days ago) and read 8058 times:

Now lets see if they inforce this new size rule. Airlines don't inforce it right now. And I for one is getting tired of getting hit in the head with oversize bags in the over head bins durning flight.

User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8026 times:

I can see where this is going....charging for carry ons

User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 4926 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7953 times:



Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 4):
It's an absolutely meaningless change unless CO can somehow get their gate agents and F/As to enforce it, which isn't happening with the current restrictions. The current policy is more akin to "if it fits, it's in", irrespective of weight, size, shape or quantity.



Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 6):
I highly doubt they're going to really police this one, anyway. They don't even care about the multiple carry ons as it is, and that goes for every carrier I've flown.



Quoting Contrails (Reply 11):
AA, and the other airlines, need to enforce the rules which have existed for many years.



Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 17):
Now lets see if they inforce this new size rule. Airlines don't inforce it right now. And I for one is getting tired of getting hit in the head with oversize bags in the over head bins durning flight.

Correct  checkmark 

They've had rules for carry-ons for decades and done nothing about it.

Quoting A318 (Reply 9):
I love when passengers try and bring these huge carry-on items on board and tell me they will fit when I'm the one that works on the plane.

Well, it's the airline's fault that the passenger even got that far with their luggage.... not the passenger's. If it's not enforced, then folks are just going to do whatever they can get away with.

IMO, it's a poor show of service, when the last 10 pax to board the plane, with their small carry-ons, are forced to check them because the F/A and/or gate agents let 30 other pax onboard with oversize bags.


Jimbo


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User currently offlinePiedmontINT From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7918 times:



Quoting Bond007 (Reply 19):
IMO, it's a poor show of service, when the last 10 pax to board the plane, with their small carry-ons, are forced to check them because the F/A and/or gate agents let 30 other pax onboard with oversize bags.

Then dont be one of the last people on!  duck 

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 20630 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7863 times:



Quoting PiedmontINT (Reply 20):
Then dont be one of the last people on!

Easier said than done with a hub airline like CO, where so many pax are connecting at IAH and EWR. Getting there last can be out of your control…


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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 8534 posts, RR: 100
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7825 times:
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It amazes me on the hostility of crew to carry on luggage. When I fly on business, I have my laptop and a few day's worth of clothes. Why not just put on the rounded doors like B6 that accomodate the longer bags?

I avoid checking due to the extreame hassles. I had one bag held 8 hours by the TSA! It was eventually released, but ugh!  hissyfit  Its not the minor bag fee, but the time. If one doesn't check, one is first at the rental car counter and off to the hotel.

Since I already own a 45" linear bag...  yawn 

Quoting CVG2LGA (Reply 15):
Or better yet just have different limitation for F.

Or even for full fare Y, or super-alloy FF members, etc.

Quoting Contrails (Reply 11):
With the airlines charging for bags pax are pushing the outside of the envelope on carry-ons.

To be expected. Most of us are cheap.  Wink

Quoting CVG2LGA (Reply 15):
I don't think it will be much longer before an airline starts charging minimal fees for carryon bags too.

 checkmark  Bet you WN will make a commercial on that too!  duck 

Quoting Viaggiare (Reply 8):
So contradictions in this industry have evolved to the point that ulcc Spirit has a less restrictive carry-on policy (52" = 24"x16"x12") than major legacy carriers AA, CO, and DL (45" = 22"x14"x9").

Funny that you mention it... WN, B6, and Spirit all allow larger bags. What is FL's rule?

Lightsaber


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User currently offlineJalflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7379 times:



Quoting PiedmontINT (Reply 13):
On the E170 it does take a little bit of coaxing but it does squeeze in.

you got a 22" rollie into a overhead bin on a E170? you have to teach me
i looked at the bin once and i just gave up

User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 881 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7226 times:



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 2):
They really should make the announcement to not put jackets in the bins till all bagagge is stored up in the gate area vs on the plane.

no, what they should do is enforcing the rule of one item (plus a small personal item) only! Recently, I saw people taking not less than 4 or even 5 bags on board, two of them were big roll-ons! They blocked the whole aisle when trying to get to their seat (because they were smaller women and weren't able to carry all that luggage), and then used up the overhead storage for 4 people! I hate people taking half their household on board! If you board later, you will be left without overhead space and have to restrict your own legroom because of these morons!

Cheers
micha

25 TristanHNL: You'd be surprised how many flight attendants don't know about the plane they're working on either. Many times I see crews' luggage stored crosswise
26 Gabrielz: If US airlines accepted any real responsibility (meaning compensation) for lost, stolen or damaged bags, I'd be inclined to check mine - and would do
27 Wukka: This is an honest question... how does anyone get around not having to check a bag? I used to fly all the time for week long trips on a relatively sma
28 Max Q: Bad idea, several years ago we installed larger then standard overhead storage fleetwide as a passenger convenience, they are henpecked enough as it i
29 Viaggiare: AirTran is even more generous... 55 inches.
30 ThirtyEcho: Just take the train. You can carry on anything that doesn't carry YOU on, like a horse or a Jeep. I am 100% SICK of the airlines and the airports and
31 Post contains images PiedmontINT: Compression is key: squish it down from the top so it is as flat as possible and then get it in sideways (not wheels out, but parallel to the length
32 Fiveholer: Amen! As someone who sees this daily and cringes when we have a 737 that is 3/4 full because you are going to have gate checks. The size of these car
33 Mrkc10ao: As the price of a barrel of oil continues its downward spiral will the airlines reciprocate and eliminate baggage fees or will they continue to reap r
34 ADXMatt: From what I hear CO will be enforcing the new carry on bag size and will have those metal bag sizer things at the checkin counters and gates. If your
35 CVG2LGA: Just the kind of pax we're tired of seeing and hearing. So yes please stay away from the airport or at least me when you do come. All wrong. Why pack
36 TISTPAA727: To me this means nothing unless it is enforced. Last week I flew back to ATL from LAS on DL and the woman in front of me boarding the plane could not
37 BlueFlyer: It is, but the thread is about CO changing their policy so I made my post about CO. I fly CO more than any other carrier, but I see the same thing ha
38 B752OS: Amen to that. I always laugh to myself when you have these idiot people bringing on large suitcases that clearly are unable to fit above and when the
39 AirNZ: Not doubting you on any personal basis but, with all due respect, I find that extremely hard to believe....that you have consistently ignored liquid/
40 Bond007: Yep, and if the airline's enforced the rules they've had for years, folks wouldn't be doing it. If a passenger gets as far as trying to get 4 bags in
41 BlueFlyer: Maybe it says more about the airports that I use than it does about me, but that is simply the case. Airports I usually fly out of on short stints wh
42 Wukka: You are one of the ones that just don't get it, yet have the nerve to tell me that I shouldn't be in an airport. Ballsy move of you. By the time that
43 AirNZ: But your comment, and my response to it, has nothing whatever to do with whether you check in luggage or not irrespective of what airport it is. It i
44 Airbazar: Yes, but for decades they didn't care about size or weight of checked bags either and that has now changed. If they could get the checkin agents to e
45 Luv2cattlecall: To that I say: I am profit You are overhead Act accordingly.
46 PanAm747: Excellent posts so far, I must say; however, we're preaching to the choir here, aren't we? What it comes down to is a fundamental series of issues tha
47 Ikramerica: Which should not be placed in the overhead bin. 1. you risk it getting damaged in a situation similar to what you describe 2. it fits under your seat
48 Hiflyer: CO is joining the rest of the industry so that the enforcement can move from the gate to the entrance of the checkpoint. With everyone the same 45 it
49 Ikramerica: CO bitched and moaned about this exact practice years ago, when some airports were doing this because AA wanted it, but CO argued (paraphrase): "we p
50 AirNZ: Yes, I perfectly understand what you're saying in your post/reply and to a certain extent I agree with you but, to be entirely fair, the poster is no
51 Luv2cattlecall: Would it be possible to put those barriers back? How about all the food items for the airside restaurants that have to go through the xray?
52 Post contains links Sterno24: When the 1 + 1 rule (carryon + 1 personal item - purse, laptop bag, etc) was implemented a while back...I was very excited...hoping it would bring a c
53 Post contains links Sterno24: Don't want to be a jerk about it...but how about buying some bottles and filling them with your essentials that don't come in a 3 oz size... http://w
54 RJdxer: But they haven't had the charge for the first bag. That is what is driving all the carry ons. Some people actually do check their gate check at the g
55 Ikramerica: Yes, it would be possible. Back then, the barrier was liftable anyway, as sometimes they would allow a suit bag through without forcing the passenger
56 Hiflyer: Re those barriers....all the way into the checkpoint and at the xray is too late and ties everything up. The idea is to stop those bags as the pax get
57 Luv2cattlecall: Had the same problem; Simple fix: Write on them with the Sharpie...then cover with a small piece of clear box tape. Also, right after the liquid ban
58 Wukka: " target=_blank>http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...22016 Not being a jerk or anything, but I'm not about funneling crap in my bathroom before I t
59 Davescj: This is the the problem. The whole charge for a bag thing is something else that needs to go into the pax bill of rights. I have no problem checking
60 ContnlEliteCMH: LOL. For a two day trip? I guess unlike other posters, I will be a jerk and say that this is the height of vanity. If you can't get a haircut, trim y
61 Sterno24: ContnlEliteCMH...you sir...much respect. [So...honestly...are you talking about your grandparents or yourself? Not that it matters. Yes..your grandpar
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