FastEddie07 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 243 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6548 times:
Couldn't find this anywhere, as some of you already know they will be closing 25 L at mccarran for awhile. Looks like they will still be using 25R for departures on normal days so the viewing area will be usuable. Heres a link:
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6201 times:
With 07R/25L closed, they expect the normal runway configuration to be arrivals on 01L/01R and departures off 07L and will do this with up to 10 knots of tailwind. If winds don't permit this, they'll use 19L/19R for arrivals and shoot 25R departures out in-between arrivals. The western 1,200 feet or so of 25R won't be usuable, but with the cooler temps this time of year should negate any takeoff weight issues.
ATC delays will be more likely during peak periods, and should any kind of weather (cloud decks or precip) come in that takes out the ability to conduct visual approaches, the delays will spike upward..
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6164 times:
Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 5): We did a full reconstruction of ATL's 8R-26L in 60 days, 6 months seems like an awefully long time.
Not as many people to bribe here in Atlanta...
Actually, it's hard to properly compare the projects because the runway in question @ LAS is asphalt, while all of the runways @ ATL are concrete. With both of the runway renewal projects at ATL (this recent one and the one back in 1999), they were cutting the runway into pieces and trucking those pieces to another part of the property. Right behind the removal crew was the crew laying rebar and behind them, the crews pouring the concrete. For the renewal project @ LAS, tearing up asphalt is not as simple as with concrete. In addition, you have to do asphalt in layers, so it takes a bit longer. We're talking about a nearly two mile long runway that is 150 wide (The equivalent of a 12 lane interstate highway) that is will be thicker than the amount of asphalt laid for an interstate highway.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5973 times:
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 11): Interesting info from the FAA ... just wondering why there isn't a configuration 5, but there is a Configuration 6!
Perhaps whoever wrote up the document is a Monty Python fan, as it reminded me of the "Bruces" sketch when the rules are being read. "Rule 6. There is NO Rule 6."
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 10): SirOmega..When 1/19 L & R were replaced, they went with concrete. They have been erecting a lot of processing rigs all along 25L for the past few weeks, so my guess is they are going with concrete.
That's a helluva lot of concrete. Good thing several of the casino projects are on hold or else there could be a shortage....
Switching to concrete is a good idea, especially somewhere like LAS. Places like that give a whole new meaning to the term "hotter than Georgia asphalt". But if they are switching, it still makes the long time frame seem odd. But I guess since they've got to completely strip the runway to dirt it will take longer.
SirOmega From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5826 times:
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 14): Anything other than Config-2 (01L/R arrivals, 07L depts.) will be a 32 AAR with GDPs averaging 80 minute delays. Exception is arv/dept on 07L which is a 28 AAR, so delays worsen..
What is LAS under normal circumstances?
I suppose one of the benefits to US dehubbing LAS is that we have less flights right now while this is going on.
LASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5765 times:
Speaking of viewing parks, are they making another one? I really hope so.. And would someone explain to me where weight and heat go into play for takeoff? And what do you guys mean by "Configuration 6" and whatnot? Thanks..
To sum it up: more weight more stuff to move thus more thrust, speed etc needed to accelerate the mass to the appropriate speed for liftoff. More heat, the less dense the air is, so the plane thinks its higher. A plane that is heavy in the hot needs either more thrust (note likey) or more space to take off. Thus KLAS, KDEN, etc's long runways. I do hope I in some way answered the question, and to everyone else, hope I got at least somewhere in the vicinity of explaining lift. If only I had my "Aerodynamics of Naval Aviators" book handy....
LASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5691 times:
Quoting SirOmega (Reply 19): The configurations mentioned are in reference to the link in the first post in the thread. Configuration 2 being the preferred one since it allows for the highest rate of arrivals and departures.
Oh. I knew what that was, I was just calling it by a different name.. Yes, I'm a little slow..
Apodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3634 posts, RR: 6 Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5516 times:
Ok, today is the first day of the Closure. I was playing Disc Golf at Sunset Park this morning and you could see all the planes taking off from runway 7L. Definitely something different. It is also weird seeing Runway 1L and R arrivals.
On a side note, based on the type of equipment I have seen next to Runway 25L, it does look like they are going with Concrete. Now if only BOS would learn from this.
Pilotfox From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 541 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5491 times:
I flew out of there last night and noticed a huge area of concrete just east of the air cargo area. It was well lit and fenced off along Twy C. It looks as if it was for aircraft as Twy R leads into it, but its blocked by fence.