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Loosing Elite Status. How Does Match Status Work?  
User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5258 times:

I'm loosing my gold elite status on AA this year, by about 5K miles (possibly a bit less.) It's too bad because they have treated me pretty well over the past two years. I read about this whole "match status" thing, and I was wondering how this process works and how many miles you need to have to qualify (say UA, CO or DL.) To qualify, would you have less than the specified amount, or a lot more than that? Any advice helps. Also does AA have any kind of leeway to those customers who are a bit short of making elite again after being part of it for 2 years?

All the best,

Tommy in LAX/EWR.


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User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26847 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5249 times:

Would you not just book yourself a day trip somewhere say 2500 in each direction just to keep your status ??

User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5237 times:



Quoting Oa260 (Reply 1):
Would you not just book yourself a day trip somewhere say 2500 in each direction just to keep your status ??

For Gold?? really?? I'm gonna miss qualifying for Platinum by about 6000 miles and I've decided against doing a long trip to make up the miles.

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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5213 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 2):
For Gold?? really?? I'm gonna miss qualifying for Platinum by about 6000 miles and I've decided against doing a long trip to make up the miles.

I did a transcon in 2006 for $200 to keep Silver - did BOS-ATL-ONT-SLC-BOS in 18 hours. Was worth it for me just to have access to the priority check-in lines and priority boarding, plus the occasional upgrade and the extra 7000 miles from the elite bonus I'd earn the next year.

As for status matching, you can try it with any airline - it's no guarentee they'll give it to you, but there's a good shot of them doing it, even though you won't qualify. Of course, it's a once-in-a-lifetime thing - once you status match once with a certain airline, you won't be allowed to do it again, so use with caution.

Quoting Tommy767 (Thread starter):
Also does AA have any kind of leeway to those customers who are a bit short of making elite again after being part of it for 2 years?

Occasionally they've offered a paid program in the beginning of the year to buy EQMs to get to the next level, or to fly a certain amount of miles in January/February and hold on to the status. In the end though, being based out of NYC and LAX, it should be pretty easy to just find a transcon and spend a day going back and forth across the country.


User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26847 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5207 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 2):
For Gold?? really?? I'm gonna miss qualifying for Platinum by about 6000 miles and I've decided against doing a long trip to make up the miles.

Well each FFP is different but in Star Alliance Gold it would be worth doing it for 5/6K . I dont know about Oneworld. Are the Gold benefits for Oneworld that low ?


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5154 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 3):
As for status matching, you can try it with any airline - it's no guarentee they'll give it to you, but there's a good shot of them doing it, even though you won't qualify. Of course, it's a once-in-a-lifetime thing - once you status match once with a certain airline, you won't be allowed to do it again, so use with caution.

Interesting. How do you apply for this, say on United or Delta?



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User currently offlineJkj777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5127 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Thread starter):
I'm loosing my gold elite status on AA this year, by about 5K miles (possibly a bit less.) It's too bad because they have treated me pretty well over the past two years. I read about this whole "match status" thing, and I was wondering how this process works and how many miles you need to have to qualify (say UA, CO or DL.) To qualify, would you have less than the specified amount, or a lot more than that? Any advice helps. Also does AA have any kind of leeway to those customers who are a bit short of making elite again after being part of it for 2 years

I have just gone through this whole research of trying to match my DL gold elite status with both AA and UA. United was quick to respond back and say that they do not do that any longer since it over saturates the quality of their product and their loyal customers. It was a brief message and solid, NO. American Airlines sent me a few responses and finally came up with a challenge for me. From October 1-December 31 this challenge would be in effect. If I earned a total of 20,000 miles with a minimum of 5 segments/roundtrips flown, they would honor me as a gold for all of 2009. Then I would just have to do the work and fly with them to keep it for 2010. To me, it was not worth it. I am going to keep my business with DL and NWA. Continental never responded to my request.

Does it work? Possibly, but not for me. Good luck


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5125 times:



Quoting Jkj777 (Reply 6):
Does it work? Possibly, but not for me. Good luck

Seems like it. What do you think DL would do?



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User currently offlineJkj777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5116 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 7):
What do you think DL would do?

I was sitting in biz with a guy who used to be a loyal United flyer. In 2002, he asked Delta about matching his status and they agreed to do so. He has achieved Platinum status with them every year since then and is pleased with the switch. TImes have changed, so I am not sure where DL stands on this. With the soon to be merged carriers, they may not want to do a status match at all, no matter the loyalty. It is worth a call, however.
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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3658 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5098 times:



Quoting Jkj777 (Reply 6):
trying to match my DL gold elite status with both AA and UA.



Quoting Jkj777 (Reply 6):
Continental never responded to my request.

CO rarely does status match for DL and NW elite, especially while they have been SkyTeam. They have done status matches for AA and UA elites, but not sure if done lately. AA has done the mileage challenge for a few years now rather than granting immediate status match. You could find more information on flyertalk.com.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5084 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 9):
CO rarely does status match for DL and NW elite,

According to the folks over on FlyerTalk, there have been several NW and DL elites getting CO status matched.

CO matches up to Platinum as well, which is a nice bonus.


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5030 times:



Quoting Jkj777 (Reply 8):
With the soon to be merged carriers, they may not want to do a status match at all, no matter the loyalty. It is worth a call, however.

Actually its the opposite. I just spoke a DL rep. after calling that phone number you provided, and she told me that they do in fact match status from AA. They also told me that they are looking for more people to come over because of the merger with NW. I guess they are looking for more loyal fliers because of the merger. She also told me that if they grant status, they have the full ability to take it away if you don't fly them enough during the next year. I have the fax number and all i have to do is photocopy my elite card and write a small letter. Should be interesting if I actually get it.



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User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1639 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5025 times:
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On AA elite status is from March 1 to the end of Feb. but the miles have to be accumulated from Jan 1 to Dec. 31 so your are still good until the end of Feb.

AA has a program called the Gold Challenge, once you sign up you have to fly 10,000 actual miles in 3 months to be reinstated to Gold. I don’t know if it is immediately or after a certain time.

I am a million miler on AA so I have lifetime Gold and my wife was also Gold, We changed over to Delta because AA except for Miami just about dropped out of the New York to Florida market.

Delta honored our status and gave us both Silver, but they would not honor my lifetime status so we have to fly the 25,000 miles a year to keep our status. I must say that DL on board service is better than AA’s in that they still give out snacks.

Also Delta’s upgrade policy is great, unlike AA where you had to use their 500 mile coupons, Delta automatically upgrades depending on status and we have been upgraded more times this year on Delta than we have ever been on AA for all the years we were with them, which was when they took over TWA. 2 weeks ago we did an LGA-ATL-PHX-ATL-SRQ-ATL-LGA trip and we were upgraded on 3 of the 6 legs of the trip.

If you call Delta, they might give you equal status like they did us, we had to send them a copy of our mileage statements showing our status.

I feel it’s worth it keeping up our status for the perks, priority boarding, upgrades, the ability to pre-book exit row seats and being exempt from their baggage charges


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4940 times:



Quoting Jetstar (Reply 12):
On AA elite status is from March 1 to the end of Feb. but the miles have to be accumulated from Jan 1 to Dec. 31 so your are still good until the end of Feb.

This i had no idea. It makes perfect sense. I probably wont make it still because I chose to fly United on a r/t over thanksgiving. If I knew about this I probably would have booked AA even though UA was slightly cheaper.

Quoting Jetstar (Reply 12):
I am a million miler on AA so I have lifetime Gold and my wife was also Gold, We changed over to Delta because AA except for Miami just about dropped out of the New York to Florida market.

Delta honored our status and gave us both Silver, but they would not honor my lifetime status so we have to fly the 25,000 miles a year to keep our status. I must say that DL on board service is better than AA’s in that they still give out snacks.

Also Delta’s upgrade policy is great, unlike AA where you had to use their 500 mile coupons, Delta automatically upgrades depending on status and we have been upgraded more times this year on Delta than we have ever been on AA for all the years we were with them, which was when they took over TWA. 2 weeks ago we did an LGA-ATL-PHX-ATL-SRQ-ATL-LGA trip and we were upgraded on 3 of the 6 legs of the trip.

Arguably, DL has a better elite program. I'm def. going to apply to them, as they probably will honor my status. What exactly did you have to print out to show them about your past status with AA.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32603 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4919 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 13):
Quoting Jetstar (Reply 12):
On AA elite status is from March 1 to the end of Feb. but the miles have to be accumulated from Jan 1 to Dec. 31 so your are still good until the end of Feb.

This i had no idea. It makes perfect sense. I probably wont make it still because I chose to fly United on a r/t over thanksgiving. If I knew about this I probably would have booked AA even though UA was slightly cheaper.

It is 5,000 points for Gold, not 10,000. 10,000 points gets you Platinum.

And if you buy the more expensive fares which earn 1.5 points, you only need to fly 2,500 miles. Though if you fly the cheap fares that earn .5 points, you need to fly 7,500 miles.

Basically, though, a quick trans-con round-trip from New York to San Fran in a mid-level booking class will get you Gold status. They charge $80 for to do the Gold challenge, a new rule that went into effect last week.

I'm Gold this year, was going to lose status because I was flying VX too much, but noticed that I was flying so much to Miami and Chicago from L.A. within a 90 day period, so I called AA, asked for the Platinum challenge, and I'll be platinum again December 20th. Plus, my status will last until February 2011 guaranteed, although it will go to Gold in March 2010 if I don't re qualify for PLAT.



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User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1639 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4902 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
It is 5,000 points for Gold, not 10,000. 10,000 points gets you Platinum.

Unless they changed it recently, I looked into this for my wife last year because she would be losing her gold status with AA for 2008. If I remember on the super saver fares, each mile is one half point so she needed 10,000 miles on a super saver fare to get the 5000 points. I agree the higher the fare the more points per mile you earn.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 13):
Arguably, DL has a better elite program. I'm def. going to apply to them, as they probably will honor my status. What exactly did you have to print out to show them about your past status with AA.

I just made a copy of our AA mileage summary along with a letter asking Delta to for silver status that showed our gold status (same as silver on Delta) and mailed it to the address that Delta said to send it to, it took a few weeks before we got our silver cards.


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7497 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4873 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 9):
They have done status matches for AA and UA elites, but not sure if done lately.

I just talked to CO yesterday. They equal status matches across the board for AA and UA as of right now. They will not match DL or NW stright up. I looked into it myself a while back (Im an AA plat.) because my mother was thinking of moving from Dallas to Houston, but it didnt happen. But if the time comes when I start flight LAX-IAH 20 times a year as opposed to LAX-DFW 20 times a year (like now), I would switch loyalties at the drop of a hat. According to CO yesterday, they still do it and its an easy process.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32603 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4866 times:



Quoting Jetstar (Reply 15):

Unless they changed it recently, I looked into this for my wife last year because she would be losing her gold status with AA for 2008. If I remember on the super saver fares, each mile is one half point so she needed 10,000 miles on a super saver fare to get the 5000 points.

Correct. If you fly all SuperSaver, you need 10,000 miles to get 5,000 points.

But if you fly in a middle-fare level, you need 5,000 miles to get 5,000 points.

Better yet, if you fly first, business, Y, or B, you only need 2,500 miles.

So the point requirement stands at 5,000, but the mileage requirement is between 2,500 and 10,000 based on fare paid.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4783 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17):
Better yet, if you fly first, business, Y, or B, you only need 2,500 miles.

5000 Q-points needed / 1.5x F/J/full Y multiplier is 3334 miles (rounded up from 3333.3 repeating). Pretty easy to knock out if you can (or someone else can...) pay that fare.

Heck, someone paying F/J/full Y overseas can make Platinum on the Plat Challenge on one round-trip! (although I think they have instituted a rule of a minimum of 5 AA segments must be flown...)


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