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SIN Mastplan... Terminal 4...?  
User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4689 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2507 times:

Hey A.Netter's...

Was watching a documentary on Discovery the other night on the Build of SIN Terminal 3... Amazing engineering I must say... However during the documentary Terminal 4 was mentioned..!
Anyone with info. regarding the design please post as I am intriged to see the proposed designs...


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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3241 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2432 times:
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I don't think there is enough land around the airport for another terminal.


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User currently offlineNicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2383 times:



Quoting EK413 (Thread starter):
However during the documentary Terminal 4 was mentioned..!
Anyone with info. regarding the design please post as I am intriged to see the proposed designs...

T4 is around 10-15 years down the road. Too early to see any designs but T3 is the trendsetter (T1 upgrade will incorporate some of T3's features ). The current layout of 5 Terminals (T1/T2/T3/CIP/Budget) will be able to handle up to 65M+ passengers, at the moment it's roughly 36M+ so it will be at 5-7 years before we see any major announcement regarding T4.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 1):
I don't think there is enough land around the airport for another terminal.

http://www.ura.gov.sg/dmp08/map.jsf?goToRegion=E

The draft master plan released by the Urban Redevelopment Authority shows that land has been earmarked for future expansion which includes T4. This is between 02C/20C and 02R/20L (Military use only, not linked to main airport).

[Edited 2008-10-25 03:55:10]

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 7874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2270 times:



Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 1):
I don't think there is enough land around the airport for another terminal.

You're obviously not familiar with SIN  Smile The space allocated is almost as big as the current T1/T2/T3 combined. It's huge. It's over towards where the new 3rd runway is. Check it out:

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User currently offlineLH748i From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

Could somebody tell me, wheather this third rwy is connected to the airport via those small looking jet-bridges over the canal or wheather it is a runway only for, looks like a cargo ramp or s.th. like that, next to it.

And anyway, it looks shorter than the other two rwys. Is it long enough for heavies?

thanks



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User currently offlineNicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2221 times:



Quoting LH748i (Reply 4):
Could somebody tell me, wheather this third rwy is connected to the airport via those small looking jet-bridges over the canal or wheather it is a runway only for, looks like a cargo ramp or s.th. like that, next to it.

And anyway, it looks shorter than the other two rwys. Is it long enough for heavies?

thanks

It's not connected for now. The small bridge over the canal is for traffic only.

The runway (02R/20L) is part of Changi Air Base (East), it's only used by the Republic of Singapore Air Force (They have a squadron of F-16 Blk52+ based there).

It was also used by visiting aircraft & air demos during the Singapore Air Show this year.

[Edited 2008-10-25 06:20:44]

User currently offlineHuaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2131 times:



Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 5):
It's not connected for now. The small bridge over the canal is for traffic only.

The runway (02R/20L) is part of Changi Air Base (East), it's only used by the Republic of Singapore Air Force (They have a squadron of F-16 Blk52+ based there).

It was also used by visiting aircraft & air demos during the Singapore Air Show this year.

Indeed, and just to add more detail pertaining to the original question, the runway (current length 2,750m) is built with future expansion into a full 4000m runway in mind. Its current exclusive use by the RSAF is only temporary, and the runway is likely to be a shared facility in future, in the same way that the existing Changi Air Base (now called Changi Air Base East) shares the existing civilian runways.



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User currently offlineLH748i From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2055 times:



Quoting Huaiwei (Reply 6):
Indeed, and just to add more detail pertaining to the original question, the runway (current length 2,750m) is built with future expansion into a full 4000m runway in mind

Yeah, that's right, you can clearly see the prepared land for the runway.

So they are planning to build bigger jetbridges to have access to the rwy from the airport? Does anybody know when they are planning to do so?

Is there actually a second atc tower needed, because I can imagine that with the forest inbetween the runway might not be visible from changi's tower?

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 1):
I don't think there is enough land around the airport for another terminal.

They could do it like in PEK. Build the terminal between the Center and the short runway. (But They probably won't need a massive T4 like in PEK)...

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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3241 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
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Quoting Airbazar (Reply 3):
You're obviously not familiar with SIN

Was there twice in May and April.Thought airport grounds ends at the small canal.For sure the other side there no space at all.



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User currently offlineNicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1715 times:



Quoting LH748i (Reply 7):
So they are planning to build bigger jetbridges to have access to the rwy from the airport? Does anybody know when they are planning to do so?

Is there actually a second atc tower needed, because I can imagine that with the forest inbetween the runway might not be visible from changi's tower?

Read reply #2. The forested area has been earmarked for airport expansion in the master plan. There definitely will be taxiways linking the main airport and the runway in the future.


User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1082 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1617 times:



Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 5):

It's not connected for now. The small bridge over the canal is for traffic only.

The runway (02R/20L) is part of Changi Air Base (East), it's only used by the Republic of Singapore Air Force (They have a squadron of F-16 Blk52+ based there).

It was also used by visiting aircraft & air demos during the Singapore Air Show this year.

They stored the A380 there overnight when the air show was going on in Feb. they would tow the thing from the airbase down the access road to the static display area everyday...was pretty cool to see an A380 coming down that road.



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User currently offlineHuaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1419 times:



Quoting LH748i (Reply 7):
So they are planning to build bigger jetbridges to have access to the rwy from the airport? Does anybody know when they are planning to do so?

If the canals are to stay, than certainly yes. We aren't too sure if the canals are going to be filled in thou.

Quoting LH748i (Reply 7):
Is there actually a second atc tower needed, because I can imagine that with the forest inbetween the runway might not be visible from changi's tower?

It is unlikely that the "forest" will stay should the airport expand anyway.



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User currently offlineMul From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1401 times:



Quoting EK413 (Thread starter):
Was watching a documentary on Discovery the other night on the Build of SIN Terminal 3... Amazing engineering I must say..

Would you mind telling what the show title was? I'm trying to find it on Discovery's website, but couldn't find one that matches your description. Thanks.


User currently offlineNicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1390 times:



Quoting Mul (Reply 12):

Would you mind telling what the show title was? I'm trying to find it on Discovery's website, but couldn't find one that matches your description. Thanks.

Man Made Marvels. Changi Airport


User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 7874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1191 times:



Quoting LH748i (Reply 7):
Is there actually a second atc tower needed, because I can imagine that with the forest inbetween the runway might not be visible from changi's tower?

There's no forest there. What you see is just brush but yes, I suspect the entire area will be cleaned up. For those who don't know, all that land is reclaimed land from the ocean. Barely a decade ago that canal used to be the Eastern most point on the island. The road running alongside it is still called Changi Coast Road. It's not been a "coast" in quite a few years  Smile


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