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Qatar Starts JFK (Oct. 26) And Ends EWR  
User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1861 posts, RR: 10
Posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6759 times:

Qatar Airways inargural flight to JFK begins tommorow DOH-JFK nonstop, which ends the present 1-stop to EWR via GVA. From tommorow, QR will delink the route from DOH-NYC (New York City metro area).

The flight is scheduled to depart at 8:20 AM and reach JFK at 15:00 local time. Watch out spotters! Big grin

The flight will be operated by a brand-new 777-300ER and total trip time of 14:40 mintutes.

Regards,
QatarA340


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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6751 times:

Will be a shame not to see the Qatar A330s at Newark anymore.

For those interested; Qatar Airways will use Terminal 4 at JFK.

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3999 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6710 times:

Its too bad that IAH won't see QR service until the end of March (if then), because of the damned Boeing strike. IAH was originally slated to see QR startup ops next month, then a problem with galleys on the 777s popped up (which also delayed EK's West Coast service), which pushed the service to Dec, then the strike hits which pushes the launch to late March.

Thomas



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1107 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6688 times:

Cool! I wonder why they chose to go to JFK instead of just flying DOH-EWR. Does anyone know how are the loads looking?

[Edited 2008-10-25 09:50:30]

User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6568 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 3):
I wonder why they chose to go to JFK instead of just flying DOH-EWR. Does anyone know how are the loads looking?

Because JFK is New York City and EWR is over there in New Jersey!  stirthepot   devil 


User currently offlineIluv747400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6555 times:

Will UA apply its code to the new flight like they did the EWR flight?

User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1861 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6459 times:



Quoting Iluv747400 (Reply 5):
Will UA apply its code to the new flight like they did the EWR flight?

Yes, as well as its IAD route and future IAH.



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User currently offlineHeavierthanair From Switzerland, joined Oct 2000, 798 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6402 times:

G'day

Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
DOH-JFK nonstop



Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
total trip time of 14:40 mintutes

Not bad. What would the cruise speed be to cover that distance in the time stated? Would Mach 80 suffice? That will require some nasty acceleration though. Qatar will save lots of $$$ by not having to provide any kind of inflight services, there maybe time enough to serve people in first a small pretzel in between acceleration and deceleration though.

Cheers

Peter



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4801 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6161 times:

am flying QR tomorrow IAD-DOH...first time ever plus my second ultra long haul flight too.

am confirmed in economy but can be upgraded to business if space is avbl.

QR ended EWR because they were not happy with EWR mangement especially with the gates at the airport usually not available when their planes landed due to congestion.


User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6146 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 8):
first time ever plus my second ultra long haul flight too.

Just out of curiousity, when does a flight go from long-haul to ultra-long haul in your opinion? If 15 hours is ultra-long haul, what is "normal" long-haul?

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 8):
QR ended EWR because they were not happy with EWR mangement especially with the gates at the airport usually not available when their planes landed due to congestion.

Hah, wait until they discover what JFK T4 can be like during the summer months!


User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2977 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6146 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 8):
am flying QR tomorrow IAD-DOH...first time ever plus my second ultra long haul flight too.

I just flew DOH - IAD, you can refer my trip report if you have any queries.

Also, are you flying to Doha or are you continuing your journey to the Indian Sub continent. I can just help you a bit  wink 



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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6023 times:

A major consideration in moving to JFK is Cargo! They are very cargo aware at QR and
they will garner more cargo from JFK than from EWR



Cargo doesn't whine, moan, or complain
User currently offlineCaljn From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5960 times:



Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 4):
Because JFK is New York City and EWR is over there in New Jersey!

Yes, but EWR far more convenient to Manhattan than JFK...access to the outer boroughs inconsequential. More puzzling is that anyone who flies thru JFK and EWR knows EWR is superior. JFK nothing but a tangled mess of roads and buildings with the most surly people working there.  yes 


User currently offlineFlyMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5932 times:



Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 7):
Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
total trip time of 14:40 mintutes

Not bad. What would the cruise speed be to cover that distance in the time stated? Would Mach 80 suffice? That will require some nasty acceleration though. Qatar will save lots of $$$ by not having to provide any kind of inflight services, there maybe time enough to serve people in first a small pretzel in between acceleration and deceleration though.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Hilarious.



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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5930 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 8):
QR ended EWR because they were not happy with EWR mangement especially with the gates at the airport usually not available when their planes landed due to congestion.

I thought they all had the same management?

NY/NJ Port Authority.

Are the management differences that far apart? I imagine they are close.

Good for JFK though.

M


User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 645 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5861 times:



Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 4):
Because JFK is New York City and EWR is over there in New Jersey!

 bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5228 times:



Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 4):
Because JFK is New York City and EWR is over there in New Jersey!

...until, of course, you educate yourself to history and find out that EWR is actually the original NYC airport.


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1861 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5196 times:



Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 7):

Not bad. What would the cruise speed be to cover that distance in the time stated? Would Mach 80 suffice? That will require some nasty acceleration though. Qatar will save lots of $$$ by not having to provide any kind of inflight services, there maybe time enough to serve people in first a small pretzel in between acceleration and deceleration though.

Cheers

Peter

What???



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User currently offlineJM017 From Jamaica, joined Jun 2002, 1227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4749 times:



Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 4):
Because JFK is New York City and EWR is over there in New Jersey!

Do you realise the war this comment will start? Of course you did.  Smile

Quoting Caljn (Reply 12):

Yes, but EWR far more convenient to Manhattan than JFK...access to the outer boroughs inconsequential. More puzzling is that anyone who flies thru JFK and EWR knows EWR is superior. JFK nothing but a tangled mess of roads and buildings with the most surly people working there.

EWR is NOT FAR more convenient to Manhattan except maybe by car (the Van Wyck is a mess at all times). BY train, the convenience is the same: connected by trains with a transfer necessary. The distance is about the same (EWR is 15 or so miles, JFK 17)

And I take offense to the the access to the outer boroughs being inconsequential (well, not really  Smile). Manhattan has 1.6 million people. The rest of the boroughs 6.6 million. Besides it apparently wasn't inconsequential to QR. And probably isn't inconsequential to other carriers.

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 16):

...until, of course, you educate yourself to history and find out that EWR is actually the original NYC airport.

Yup. This is true. And honestly, EWR is less of a mess than JFK. I love 'em both, but JFK is really a mess.



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User currently offlineMaxisno1 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2007, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4679 times:



Quoting Rjpieces (Reply 9):
Just out of curiousity, when does a flight go from long-haul to ultra-long haul in your opinion? If 15 hours is ultra-long haul, what is "normal" long-haul?

Short-haul flight: <3 hours
Medium-haul flight: 3 to 6 hours
Long-haul flight: >6 hours

An ultra long-haul non-stop flight is considered to be a commercially operated airliner with:

* No intermediate stop-over point within its scheduled duration
* More than 12,000 km in route length
* Over 15 hours of scheduled flying time

Wiki is your friend!  Smile

Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
which ends the present 1-stop to EWR via GVA

Sad to hear that although I always thought it was a bit fishy flying to EWR!


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 4563 times:



Quoting Maxisno1 (Reply 19):
I always thought it was a bit fishy flying to EWR!

...why exactly?


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8428 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 4528 times:
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Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 16):
until, of course, you educate yourself to history and find out that EWR is actually the original NYC airport.

Legendary Mayor Fiorelo Laguardia got so angry his plane ticket said "New York" but went to Newark he built LGA airport we all love to hate.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 4528 times:
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Commute to JFK from manhattan, a little bit of patience on the VanWyck and $0. A commute to EWR from Manhattan, a little bit of patience at the Holland Tunnel and $0. A commute home from JFK to Manhattan $0. A commute home from EWR a little bit of patience and $8.00.


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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1861 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (5 years 12 months 3 days ago) and read 4428 times:

Its funny that QR083 flying GVA-EWR is still on the timetable in QR website, saying that it is scheduled! I wonder why QR is not listed in JFK website!


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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4801 posts, RR: 44
Reply 24, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3761 times:

Hi,

Am at Doha airport right now...Qatar Airways business class i flew IAD-DOH...rated A+

much better than anyother airline I've ever flown on in J class and the list includes CX-AC-GF-EK-UA.

beef tenderloin rated A

movenpick vanilla ice cream rated A+

cabin crew service rated A+

this airline fully deserves its 5 star ranking...WHAT AN AIRLINE  Smile


25 AirMale : On a side-note, GVA-DOH service will be downgraded from A332 to A319 on certain days in December and January. GVA-DOH flights will be hard to fill in
26 Behramjee : indeed...an A 332 can only be filled when the Arabs flock GVA i.e. between May-Sept. though with QR's impressive far east network from DOHA, it shoul
27 Globalflyer : Yes I cannot wait. I am sitting in Row 1 on Saturday out of JFK. Cannot wait to experience QR!
28 QatarA340 : Hope you have a nice experience! That is indeed good, and glad u enjoyed ur flight
29 Post contains images DC10sRULE : Hello All, I was at T5 waiting for my JetBlue flight when I was fortunate enough to capture the QR Bird. The EK A380 was just to the right - My lucky
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