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QF 380 Economy Seats V. Other Longhaul?  
User currently offlineN186BD From United States of America, joined May 2007, 37 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 16894 times:

I am wondering how QF's economy on the A380 compares to other companies Y seats. I have flown VS, BA, UA, CO, KL, AA, DL, NW, and KQ longhaul in coach. Is Qantas' new Y product better, similar, or worse than others? Thanks for your help!

N186BD


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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 16870 times:

Check out www.seatguru.com

User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 797 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 16847 times:

Hey,

The most significant feature is probably the 1 inch increase in seat pitch due the thickness of the seat (which has not impacted cushioning and comfort) coupled with a sliding seat base and foot net to aid comfort and posture, which particularly helps whilst sleeping.

The seats feature USB Ports, Power Ports, internet and WiFi, widescreen IFE with 1000 or so options including destination guides, up-to-date news, tutorials, language lessons and more, aconcealed controler as well as a personal telephone with reply SMS whilst in the cabin you will find 4 self-serve snack bars, mood lighting, 30 minute continuous refreshment service and a 'Relax and Unwind' service.

Make your own opinion but I believe these enhancments place Qantas above all of the carriers you mentioned.

Thanks
ThomasCook



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User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 16809 times:

Pitch seems improved, but seat width seems to be less than others.

At least according to SeatGuru: Interestingly, for an Airbus, seems Qantas reduced width on the 380 from 17.2 to 17" -- their other Airbus schemes show 17.2", and Boeings all show 17".

On long-hauls, even an extra .5" makes a difference... regardless of your size.

Is there something about QF's A380 economy seats that makes the 17" width more comfortable (arm rests,etc) than their seats on other Airbus equipment, or did they benefit by commonality with their Boeing seats?



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User currently offlineXxcr From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16356 times:

i rarely seat in Y, but i heard from friends that QF's new Y seats are an improvement from the older seats. but other then that, i haven't heard much.

not sure if this helps.

XXCR


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 16098 times:



Quoting ThomasCook (Reply 2):
The most significant feature is probably the 1 inch increase in seat pitch due the thickness of the seat (which has not impacted cushioning and comfort) coupled with a sliding seat base and foot net to aid comfort and posture, which particularly helps whilst sleeping.

Thickness of the seat has nothing to do with seat pitch.

You are talking about improved knee room due to seat thickness.

Pitch is the measure of distance between the same two points on seats one row apart. It can be measured from any point, such as tip of armrest to tip of armrest, or edge of frame to edge of frame one row up. It has nothing to do with the thickness of any seat.

This is why aircraft with domestic F/J products with 38" pitch but with very thick seats have almost no additional knee room to Y seats with 32" slimback seats.

Quoting Utapao (Reply 3):
Pitch seems improved, but seat width seems to be less than others.

At least according to SeatGuru: Interestingly, for an Airbus, seems Qantas reduced width on the 380 from 17.2 to 17" -- their other Airbus schemes show 17.2", and Boeings all show 17".

This is reportedly incorrect, though the seats aren't nearly as wide as the SQ 19" Y seats they fit on the A380 and 77W.

Seatguru is not the end all be all of information. They get things wrong and are stubborn about corrections even when confronted with their errors…



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User currently offlineN186BD From United States of America, joined May 2007, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 16071 times:

Thanks for all the replies guys.

I'm more interested in people's personal experiences/insight versus raw information. I'll be flying on the 380 in November... I hope I don't get stuck with 88F!

N186BD



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User currently offlineDitzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 722 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 15630 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 5):
though the seats aren't nearly as wide as the SQ 19" Y seats

Y seats are 18" wide on the QF 380. Source is an internal brief sheet.


User currently offlineBraybuddy From India, joined Aug 2004, 5794 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 15369 times:



Quoting N186BD (Reply 6):
I'm more interested in people's personal experiences/insight versus raw information. I'll be flying on the 380 in November... I hope I don't get stuck with 88F!

Can't speak for Qantas, but what ThomasCook reports in his post seems pretty much the same difference between Singapore's A380s (although their seats do look thinner), and their 747s. which are a far superior product altogether. And, of course, the icing on the cake is the 1,200 IFE channels, which includes tutorials along with the usual entertainment, the larger screens and the facilities such as USB ports etc.

This is the way to go for long-haul cattle class, for sure!


User currently offlineFlyboysp From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 739 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14294 times:



Quoting N186BD (Reply 6):
I'm more interested in people's personal experiences/insight versus raw information. I'll be flying on the 380 in November... I hope I don't get stuck with 88F!

N186BD

I bet you are dying for 71D and 80A or 80K. I know i am.



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14234 times:

F should have four self-service bars in Economy Class on the A380.

Is that better / worse the SQ /EK ?



User currently offlineMD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 966 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13678 times:

If Seat Guru is correct, the 17" width and 31" seat pitch in the Qantas A380 is inferior to Singapore's 19" width and 32" pitch on their A380s. Heck, the average nine across 777 economy class looks more comfortable than Qantas' A380 coach. Again, based on what SeatGuru shows.

Cheers, Ralph



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13609 times:



Quoting MD80Nut (Reply 11):
If Seat Guru is correct, the 17" width and 31" seat pitch in the Qantas A380 is inferior to Singapore's 19" width and 32" pitch on their A380s.

Both have the same number of seats in a row in the same cabin. So seat width is probably similar, about 19 inch. Unless QF has very wide aisles to facilitate bar traffic..

http://biztravelguru.com/blogs/business-travel-news/Qantas-A380-Seat-map-released.jpg


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12441 times:



Quoting Ditzyboy (Reply 7):
Y seats are 18" wide on the QF 380. Source is an internal brief sheet.



Quoting Keesje (Reply 12):
Both have the same number of seats in a row in the same cabin. So seat width is probably similar, about 19 inch.

This is just not true. This is false logic and can't be applied to any widebody aircraft flying right now. Seat widths vary widely between airlines flying the same aircraft fuselage with the same number of seats in a row.

BA 777 = 17.5"
SQ 77W = 19"
SQ 773 = 17.5"
AA 772 = 18-18.5"
CO 772 = 17.9"

As stated above, QF's seats are NOT 17" but are also not 19". They are reported to be 18". This would makes sense as they would not want a seat nearly as wide as the Y+ seat upstairs which is reported to be 19.5".



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User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4389 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11714 times:



Quoting N186BD (Thread starter):
I am wondering how QF's economy on the A380 compares to other companies Y seats. I have flown VS, BA, UA, CO, KL, AA, DL, NW, and KQ longhaul in coach.

Is this more dependent on the airline then the aircraft? I understand that the airline chooses the interior of the aircraft and fits them according to their specifications. Also should not the aircraft in question be the same in order to compare? I have flown on VS,SQ, BA, AA, DL, LH, CO, HA, and NW., with all their different aircraft types and found that there are pluses and minuses with in each airline depending on the aircraft.



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11658 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
Seat widths vary widely between airlines flying the same aircraft fuselage with the same number of seats in a row.

So are the armrest much wider, or more armrests, or wider aisles, what do you think?

Simple cross section I made a few yrs ago on A380 main cabin..



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