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US Airways And MAN  
User currently offlineJwb2 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 20 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

With US Airways looking at cost saving, will MAN be one of the routes to be dropped, they already have regular services to the London Airports and Birmingham aswell as Glasgow. What are the passenger loads like on the daily flight from MAN.

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User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

MAN Is one of their best routes, if I recall.


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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3204 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4411 times:



Quoting Jwb2 (Thread starter):

Very unlikely, if anything, they'd drop one of the 757 routes. MAN obviously is a good earner for US as they send an A333 every day.

Oh and when have they said about cost saving?  Smile



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User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4340 times:



Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 2):
Very unlikely, if anything, they'd drop one of the 757 routes. MAN obviously is a good earner for US as they send an A333 every day.

Totally agree.

Quoting Jwb2 (Thread starter):
and Birmingham aswell

They have only just announced BHX havnt they. If they were cost cutting they wouldnt be starting a new route. Especially a route so close to MAN.



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User currently offlineMANGuy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4342 times:



Quoting Jwb2 (Thread starter):
they already have regular services to the London Airports and Birmingham aswell as Glasgow

I'm not sure BHX has started yet has it?

If things were looking a bit ropey in the UK for US Airways I would expect the proposed BHX to be canned first before they ever consider axing MAN. General consensus seems to be that MAN is a strong route for US. Also, as it happens, the UK market seems to be looking quite good for them at the moment all things considered, if they are adding summer frequencies to BHX etc.


User currently offlineMANGuy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4334 times:

Beat me to it Danfearn  Smile

User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2985 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4260 times:

US Airways will not be going anywhere from MAN in the future years...

I have read previously this is one of their strongest European routes. Cargo is a major player on this route, and premium traffic is propped up by several large companies with corporate accounts flying staff between both MAN and PHL.

Worst case scenario, is that the route would be downgraded to a 767 or an 332, if needs required, but I think this is unlikely.

Routes like LGW-PHL, GLA-PHL and BHX-PHL are far less insecure than MAN-PHL. You would see these routes scrapped before Manchester!

To confirm how important Manchester is to US Airways, when one of their A330's were undergoing maintenance in September and October they were operating 12 757 services a week. They could simply have just operated the route with a single daily 757 service and bumped any passengers who had already booked or cancelled their booking...

It would be a shame to see the A330-300's leave Manchester as this is one largest aircrafts operating accross the Atlantic from MAN, but I would not be surpirsed if the route went twice daily with 757's very similar to Continental. This would free up the widebodies for other developed routes where the 767 is now too small and the 757 does not have the range.


User currently offlineIliriBDL From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

I too hope they keep the A330 for MAN, and as for the question, just like the rest of you guys answered, they wouldn't announce BHX starting in May '09, if they were cutting flights.


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User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4028 times:



Quoting MANGuy (Reply 5):
Beat me to it Danfearn

By 8 seconds!!  Smile

We are right in what we say though. The route seems to be doing well for them especially as they send A333's.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 6):
Routes like LGW-PHL, GLA-PHL and BHX-PHL are far less insecure than MAN-PHL

This goes to show how lucrative routes from MAN can be. For example AA's ORD route, if im not mistaken, is one of AA's best transatlantic routes. Just goes to show.

Just for the record, the A333's in US livery is a joy to see at MAN, great a/c in a great livery.



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7126 posts, RR: 87
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3932 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 6):
one of their strongest European routes

Most profitable.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 6):
Cargo is a major player on this route,

AA also does extremely well on ORD-MAN.

We use MAN as one (STN) major launch points for inbound UK cargo.


User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3637 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 9):

AA also does extremely well on ORD-MAN.

So much so there is talk of them going double daily on this route with 757's, along with JFK, and a retry at BOS. Thats just a rumour.

Quoting FXramper (Reply 9):
Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 6):
one of their strongest European routes

Most profitable.

Really, wasnt aware of that. So realistically there is little chance of US dropping MAN. Which is great news.



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User currently offlineMAN23R From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

believe me, this is one of their strongest routes. and work on the aircraft at MAN on a daily basis

User currently offlineMutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2179 times:

I am sure the stengthening of the greenback will start to have an impact soon as the tourist traffic ex UK drops down and the $ earnings on exchange rate conversion means an effective 24% reduction in $ earnings for £ ticket sales. Ironically at $2 to £1 it was a golden age for US carriers compared to Uk carriers with a £300 coach ticket earning $600. Thats $459 today. The opposite was true for VS and the like who will now get more £'s from their $ sales.

Whilst oil is down, the strong dollar may now be the next ailment blamed for route trimming ex UK?


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