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50TH Anniversary Of PAN AM's First 707 Flight  
User currently offlineCAMPBELL From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 27 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7214 times:

October 26, 1958: Pan Am inaugurates 707 service from New York to Paris. Happy 50th birthday to the American Jet Age!

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User currently offlineEISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1509 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7183 times:

It's amazing how far we've come, from the single aisle 707, to the twin aisle, double decker A380, and how far amenities have come also, from recliner seats to private suites!
If only Pan Am were around to celebrate...



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User currently onlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7159 times:



Quoting EISHN (Reply 1):
It's amazing how far we've come, from the single aisle 707, to the twin aisle, double decker A380

Actually the leap from the 707 to the twin aisle double decker 747, of which the first versions had lounges as well, was made in 11 years.
The man on the street can hardly see any difference between a 707 and an A-340. The development leap between the Wright Flyer and 707 (55 years) and the 707 and A-380 (50 years) is way smaller.



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User currently offlineEISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1509 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7113 times:



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 2):
Actually the leap from the 707 to the twin aisle double decker 747, of which the first versions had lounges as well, was made in 11 years.

I know that, but the A380 is the new Queen of the Skies, and is larger, and more advanced, and has a complete upper deck, as opposed to the "hump" the 747 carries. The A380 upper deck is actually wider than the A330/A340 cabin, which is quite an achievement. Let's alosonote how quiet the new A380 is compared to the 707 (and yes, the 747 was quieter than the 707 when it came around).



St. Flannan/ Fhlanain- She took off to find the footlights, And I took off for the sky
User currently offlineTrystero From Portugal, joined Oct 2008, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7076 times:

I beleive that Pam-Am had names for all their planes. Anyone knows how this one was called?


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User currently offlineFlyPIJets From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 926 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7038 times:



Quoting Trystero (Reply 4):
Anyone knows how this one was called?

Clipper America - IIRC



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User currently offlineTrystero From Portugal, joined Oct 2008, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7006 times:



Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 5):
Clipper America - IIRC

Thanks

Not only a beautifull name, but an apropriate one!



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User currently offlineNWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1404 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6975 times:
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According to the information here (click on the photo), there was a twenty-fifth anniversary flight of the inaugural flight.

A fiftieth anniversary flight would have been something  cloudnine 

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User currently offline787KQ From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6823 times:

Happy Birthday!!!

Great Airline.


User currently offlineWINGSOFMAN72 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6815 times:

As most here know, that is not the orgial aircaft from the flight. It was in fact
N711PA, which was re-named as "JET CLIPPER AMERICA" for the event. I later went back
to it's original and final name of "JET CLIPPER MAYFLOWER".

It was my first flight on a JET in 1959 on this aircraft on PA from IDL to BOS as PA116, since my dad worked for PA we were able to get on that. The return on a DC-6B was petty cool too.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6792 times:



Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 5):
Quoting Trystero (Reply 4):
Anyone knows how this one was called?

Clipper America - IIRC

The aircraft below (can't find a PA photo) operated the inaugural flight on October 26, 1958.


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It was registered N711PA then, the 5th 707 built. This one was actually named "Clipper Mayflower" but was temporarily renamed "Clipper America" for the inaugural flight. The real "Clipper America" was N710PA below.


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At the time of the inaugural flight it looked like N712PA below, the last of PA's original six 707-120s. Note the tail of another PA 707 just visible in the background.


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That photo at LHR in 1959 shows the original JT3C turbojets before conversion a couple of years later to -120B with JT3D turbofans. It also has the original short tailfin of early production 707s and lacks the small dorsal fin below the fin. Those changes were made on the production line after the first year or two of service (and aircraft already delivered were modified) to correct certain "Dutch roll" instability problems.

Coincidentally, all 3 of the 707s in the photos above were leased by TK for 2 to 3 years in 1974 after retirement by PA. TK leased them to provide capacity following the TK DC-10-10 crash near Paris in March 1974 killing all 346 aboard.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 2):
Quoting EISHN (Reply 1):
It's amazing how far we've come, from the single aisle 707, to the twin aisle, double decker A380. Actually the leap from the 707 to the twin aisle double decker 747, of which the first versions had lounges as well, was made in 11 years.

PA's last 707, a -320B, was delivered in March 1969, just 9 months before their first 747.

Quoting CAMPBELL (Thread starter):
October 26, 1958: Pan Am inaugurates 707 service from New York to Paris. Happy 50th birthday to the American Jet Age!

The inaugural flight from IDL to LBG, like many translatlantic flights, especially westbound, using the early 707-120 which wasn't designed for intercontinental routes, also made a fuel stop at Gander (YQX).


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17147 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6760 times:



Quoting EISHN (Reply 3):
but the A380 is the new Queen of the Skies

OMG, how dare you to say that  Wink

The 747 will for always remain the Queen of the Skies.



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User currently offlineN707PA From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6711 times:


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User currently offlineTrystero From Portugal, joined Oct 2008, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6680 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 11):
The 747 will for always remain the Queen of the Skies.

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Right-ee-oo. 707 became the icon of the jet-age birth, not the first, but sureally the most simbolic. More than a decade later 747 took that place. In portuguese plane (avião) is a masculine word, so it becomes a bit weird to call "Queen of the skies". There many beautifull birds, but the old jumbo beats them all...



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User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6575 times:



Quoting EISHN (Reply 1):
It's amazing how far we've come, from the single aisle 707, to the twin aisle, double decker A380, and how far amenities have come also, from recliner seats to private suites!

Not really --- when you look at how many 757s are flying trans-atlantic now. There's nothing better or more luxurious (from a pax standpoint) about a 757 than a 707. In fact, I'll bet the 707s were much more comfortable and had better service overall back in the day.

I mean CO is putting 757s on EWR-LHR. Have we really come all that far?


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