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Reduction Of Flights To Venezuela For US Airlines  
User currently offlineMariodgf From Venezuela, joined Oct 2008, 11 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

First of all let me start by saying that is awesome to join Airliners.net and be able to speak to other aviation lovers!

I searched the forums but found nothing relevant to the topic.

Not too long ago it was announced by Venezuelan aviation authorities (the INAC to be specific) that measures will be taken to reduce the amount of flights to Venezuela by airlines from the US. There were some rumors going around, but so far, not much has been said related to this event.

Have the affected airlines been obligated to change their schedules? Have they taken any measures in respect to this statement by the INAC?

If anybody can share more details regarding this decision by the INAC it would be greatly appreciated!


Mario Antonio Di Giovanni Furiati
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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4573 times:

They didn't follow through with the threat. Schedules remain as is.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4539 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
They didn't follow through with the threat. Schedules remain as is.

Chavez is likely waiting for the administration change here in the USA to see if Obama lives up to his promise to make nice with the despots of the world…  Wink



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User currently offlineCybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 509 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4379 times:



Quoting Mariodgf (Thread starter):
Have the affected airlines been obligated to change their schedules? Have they taken any measures in respect to this statement by the INAC?



Quoting Mariodgf (Thread starter):
First of all let me start by saying that is awesome to join Airliners.net and be able to speak to other aviation lovers!

First of all, welcome aboard my friend!. It is nice to see another Venezuelan a.netter here. As for the measure of the INAC it seems that things calmed down a little bit and the reduction of flights was not applied....yet. We will have to wait and see.

Saludos

Tavo.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4331 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
They didn't follow through with the threat. Schedules remain as is.



Quoting Cybergus (Reply 3):
First of all, welcome aboard my friend!. It is nice to see another Venezuelan a.netter here. As for the measure of the INAC it seems that things calmed down a little bit and the reduction of flights was not applied....yet. We will have to wait and see.

Could anyone confirm the situation of the bilateral and whether US carriers can increase frequencies, including seasonal frequencies, to Venezuela?

Tks,


User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4157 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 4):
Could anyone confirm the situation of the bilateral and whether US carriers can increase frequencies, including seasonal frequencies, to Venezuela?

As long as current Venezuelan authorities stay in office, increase is highly unlikely not to say impossible,

The view of a "bilateral" by Venezuelan authorities is that offer by Venezuelan carriers have to be equal of that of US carriers. Since Venezuelan carriers lack the capacity to match the offer by their US counterparts they are trying to force a reduction in US carriers offer.

I've red recently that S3 got DOT aproval for VLC-MIA although it hasn't started operations yet and it's probable that DOT is being flexible trying to force Venezuela's INAC to change their mind on a possible reduction and in the best case allow aditional frequencies by US carriers.

Quoting Cybergus (Reply 3):
We will have to wait and see.

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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1901 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4048 times:

Hey buddy, welcome to A.net... good to see one more up here.

I believe this threat was another useless waste of saliva by Chavez... remember it's a common pattern to see this dude talk talk and undo undo.

It's not convenient for him to make this happen simply because he's fully aware that the Venezuelan airlines are unable to match the services the American carriers have to offer. Even though SBA is showing a good performance on their flights from MAR and CCS to MIA, they can't give the connections reliability the others have... it would be suicidal for him to reduce flight capacity, as he knows that foreign interaction in Venezuela is necessary - even though he might say the opposite most of the times.

The whole BS on not letting US airlines expand their frequencies into CCS and VLN is simply because he needs to have an excuse to feel overpowered, by not letting the US do whatever they feel like doing... remember, for a monkey to feel superior, there's only need of a weapon... he's go the government and his ass-kissers.

Saludos!



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3992 times:



Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 5):
I've red recently that S3 got DOT aproval for VLC-MIA although it hasn't started operations yet and it's probable that DOT is being flexible trying to force Venezuela's INAC to change their mind on a possible reduction and in the best case allow aditional frequencies by US carriers.

S3 is approved for MIA-VLN. However, Valencia's airport security is not up to FAA standards, and until that problem is fixed, VLN cannot have non-stops to the United States.



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User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 271 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 3936 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
S3 is approved for MIA-VLN. However, Valencia's airport security is not up to FAA standards, and until that problem is fixed, VLN cannot have non-stops to the United States.

Yes and this flight is operating to CCS too, so SBA Have 3x Daily CCS-MIA Plus 1x Daily MAR-MAR.. And 9V Have 5x weekly flights from BLA/PZO-MIA

Anyone have any news about Venezolana services to USA? Any routes, planes?

Saludos


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 3911 times:



Quoting Orl777 (Reply 8):
Anyone have any news about Venezolana services to USA? Any routes, planes?

They have applied with DOT to fly MIA-MAR and MIA-CCS.



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User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 271 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 22 hours ago) and read 3875 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
They have applied with DOT to fly MIA-MAR and MIA-CCS.

I imagine if they got the approval will fly 732 on that routes.. Let´s hope they got the aproval too, also the same Applies fo NK hope to see them flying CCS soon..

Saludos


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2575 posts, RR: 31
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

ANy news about S3's application to fly BLA-MIA?


Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineMariodgf From Venezuela, joined Oct 2008, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 3739 times:

I hope things get done rapidly in Valencia so more frequencies can be added to the congested Venezuela-Miami market.

It's a sad thing that airlines from the US have so much trouble getting approvals. It would be great if more interested could be given to PMV, which I believe is a great turist destination. No knews for new flights from Porlamar?



Mario Antonio Di Giovanni Furiati
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 3736 times:



Quoting Orl777 (Reply 10):
I imagine if they got the approval will fly 732 on that routes.. Let´s hope they got the aproval too, also the same Applies fo NK hope to see them flying CCS soon..



Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 11):
ANy news about S3's application to fly BLA-MIA?


Once AA is approved for MIA-VLN and NK for FLL-CCS, then these services will be approved. Until then, Venezuela is single handily stunting air traffic growth between the U.S. and Venezuela.



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User currently offlineAlianza From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3490 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Once AA is approved for MIA-VLN and NK for FLL-CCS, then these services will be approved. Until then, Venezuela is single handily stunting air traffic growth between the U.S. and Venezuela.

From the Venzuelan side, is there any indication that this "stunting" of air traffic will improve with the new president-elect, or once the Obama administration is in office?



Saludos,


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