Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Royal Air Maroc Will Be Privatized-for Sale..  
User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4116 times:

..one of Africa's leading airlines will be fully privatized and is up for sale-partially or as a whole entity.
News hit the wires yesterday - top candidates could -of course-include Air France .
Although early in the process,two other RAM entities-dealing with hotels and Low-Cost carrier Atlas Blue-are included in the privatisation package.
Currently the fleet is 41 aircraft with 9 additional on order (including 4 787's )

In French
http://www.casafree.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=23792

[Edited 2008-10-29 07:14:53]


Please respect animals - don't eat them...
13 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineRobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

Is RAM in any alliance?

User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4062 times:

No- just their Frequent Milage programm has been tied to the one of Iberia- so there have been rumours that RAM would join One-World ,but that has never happened in reality..


Please respect animals - don't eat them...
User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1721 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4051 times:

Would this mean another catch for LH Big grin


flown: F50,F70,CR1,CR2,CR9,E75,143,AR8,AR1,733,735,736,73G,738,753,744,77W,319,320,321,333,AB6.
User currently offlineRobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4019 times:



Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Would this mean another catch for LH

I personally would like to see that happen. But unfortunately it's very unlikely. IMO the German industry and service sector (not only LH) is missing an opportunity in Morocco.


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3999 times:

Don't think so -LH has no major business in the Maghreb and their purchase of SN will help them to increase their presence in Africa-but Black-Africa that is.
Impossible tosay where RAM will end up-Spain most likely not,since the politics between the two countries is not all that great (Ceuta,Melilia )



Please respect animals - don't eat them...
User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2531 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

I would bet on Qatar, Emirates or Etihad... But don't count on BA anyway  Wink


Next flights : BRU-ZRH-CAI (LX)/ BRU-FCO-TLV (AZ)
User currently offlineJJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1889 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3963 times:



Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
Impossible tosay where RAM will end up-Spain most likely not,since the politics between the two countries is not all that great (Ceuta,Melilia )

That doesn't prevent Spain being Morocco's 2nd import, export and direct investment partner, just behind France.

Despite all the rethoric about Ceuta, Melilla and Western Sahara the trade links are very solid.


User currently offlineGatoVolador From Spain, joined Apr 2007, 435 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3806 times:



Quoting JJJ (Reply 7):

That doesn't prevent Spain being Morocco's 2nd import, export and direct investment partner, just behind France.

Despite all the rethoric about Ceuta, Melilla and Western Sahara the trade links are very solid.

It's true. In addition, Iberia holds a small stake (3% or something like this). Considering Africa a new challenge for Iberia, maybe RAM could help.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3782 times:



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
include Air France

-
which would not be a real "privatisation" as AFKL is not a really private company
-

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
LH has no major business in the Maghreb and their purchase of SN

-
LH in the Arab World already now is stronger than SN. So that any shares purchase would help LH to strengthen its presence in the Arab World, whenever it "StarAlliance-wise" farther east already is linked up with EgyptAir
-

Quoting JJJ (Reply 7):
Despite all the rethoric about Ceuta, Melilla and Western Sahara the trade links are very solid.

-
It often is forgotten that Northern Morocco until 1956 was "Spanish Morocco" and that Spanish still is the Third official language of the country. Even police cars in North Moroccan cities carry Spanish titles (beside the Arabic and French ones of course) . But RAM becoming IB owned is rather difficult to see .............
-

Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 8):
Considering Africa a new challenge for Iberia, maybe RAM could help.

-
If you by "Africa" have in mind the continent, negative, as the various failures of Arab air carriers incl RAM have shown. If you however have the Maghreb in mind, sure.


User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3663 times:



Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 9):
which would not be a real "privatisation" as AFKL is not a really private company

AF is a private company. The French state has only a minor stake for many years now.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3518 times:



Quoting Goldorak (Reply 10):
AF is a private company. The French state has only a minor stake for many years now.

-
ok, but still a bit difficult to see, that Morocco would sell its airline to the national airline of the former colonial power


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3463 times:



Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 11):
ok, but still a bit difficult to see, that Morocco would sell its airline to the national airline of the former colonial power

Well i also find it a bit odd that the King of morocco, the owner that is, would want to sell his airline. But from what i've heard the service and fares on AT are very bad, so i could imagine that the airline isn't doing very well right now.

Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
News hit the wires yesterday - top candidates could -of course-include Air France .

AT being bought by AFKLM seems like the most fesible solution, since AF has a big presense on the Moroccan market. They fly to Casablanca four times daily Rabat twice daily and to Marrakech. KLM on the other hand stopped flying to CMN a couple of years ago, the flight then became a codeshare flight on Transavia, who after a couple of years dropped the route leaving AT as the only airline to fly between AMS and Morocco. If AT is the only airline to fly between several european destinations and morocco, how comes that they're doing so bad? Besides AFKLM already own a 4% share in AT.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Would this mean another catch for LH

That wouldn't seem very likely IMHO, besides doesn't LH have a bunch of other balls in the air? LH's presense on the Moroccan market isn't big. They only fly FRA-CMN five times weekly, they used to fly the route two times daily i think.

I fly to CMN quite a lot and if i have to chose which airline to fly i would prefer to fly LH. The service on the FRA-CMN leg is much better than on AF. They serve a hot meal and adrink before the meal, but they only give a sandwich on the ARN-FRA leg. AF on the other hand serve a cold meal on both segments which is sort of better than LH.



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineRoyalAirMaroc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3390 times:



Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 9):
Even police cars in North Moroccan cities carry Spanish titles (beside the Arabic and French ones of course)

I have been to morocco over 20 times and travelled most of morocco and have never seen this. IIRC they only do have Arabic and French titles.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 12):
so i could imagine that the airline isn't doing very well right now.

The last time i checked up on to see how AT was doing they seemed fine. An increase in passenger numbers between 07/08 and between Jan and Sept this year. They also have less competition into CMN from major Hubs such as LHR and AMS (with GB being sold to U2). And are also the only provider of direct flights into TNG from the UK. What could possible be the problem ?



Life is a Journey, One Which I hope will include alot of Flights !! =]
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Alaska Air Mileage Plan Will Be Closed For A Week posted Sat Apr 12 2008 14:51:39 by Alaskaqantas
Will Royal Air Maroc Ever Upgrade Thier Product? posted Mon Nov 5 2007 06:37:31 by RoyalAirMaroc
When Will Boeing Deliver 787 To Royal Air Maroc posted Mon Oct 15 2007 14:27:37 by RoyalAirMaroc
A Former Royal Air Maroc 735, For Aerolineas posted Sat Aug 25 2007 17:37:56 by Argentina
767s For Royal Air Maroc posted Thu Jun 21 2001 18:24:46 by Airmale
Royal Air Maroc #6365 ATL-JFK? posted Sat Jun 7 2008 13:13:23 by N737MC
Royal Air Maroc A330? posted Fri May 9 2008 06:52:07 by RoyalAirMaroc
Royal Air Maroc 747-400 posted Sun May 4 2008 08:08:07 by CXA330300
Royal Air Maroc Price Hikes posted Fri Apr 11 2008 13:45:29 by RoyalAirMaroc
Royal Air Maroc Modify Livery posted Thu Feb 21 2008 18:00:26 by RoyalAirMaroc