Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24 Posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3987 times:
..one of Africa's leading airlines will be fully privatized and is up for sale-partially or as a whole entity.
News hit the wires yesterday - top candidates could -of course-include Air France .
Although early in the process,two other RAM entities-dealing with hotels and Low-Cost carrier Atlas Blue-are included in the privatisation package.
Currently the fleet is 41 aircraft with 9 additional on order (including 4 787's )
Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3870 times:
Don't think so -LH has no major business in the Maghreb and their purchase of SN will help them to increase their presence in Africa-but Black-Africa that is.
Impossible tosay where RAM will end up-Spain most likely not,since the politics between the two countries is not all that great (Ceuta,Melilia )
which would not be a real "privatisation" as AFKL is not a really private company
Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5): LH has no major business in the Maghreb and their purchase of SN
LH in the Arab World already now is stronger than SN. So that any shares purchase would help LH to strengthen its presence in the Arab World, whenever it "StarAlliance-wise" farther east already is linked up with EgyptAir
Quoting JJJ (Reply 7): Despite all the rethoric about Ceuta, Melilla and Western Sahara the trade links are very solid.
It often is forgotten that Northern Morocco until 1956 was "Spanish Morocco" and that Spanish still is the Third official language of the country. Even police cars in North Moroccan cities carry Spanish titles (beside the Arabic and French ones of course) . But RAM becoming IB owned is rather difficult to see .............
Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 8): Considering Africa a new challenge for Iberia, maybe RAM could help.
If you by "Africa" have in mind the continent, negative, as the various failures of Arab air carriers incl RAM have shown. If you however have the Maghreb in mind, sure.
LH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3334 times:
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 11): ok, but still a bit difficult to see, that Morocco would sell its airline to the national airline of the former colonial power
Well i also find it a bit odd that the King of morocco, the owner that is, would want to sell his airline. But from what i've heard the service and fares on AT are very bad, so i could imagine that the airline isn't doing very well right now.
Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter): News hit the wires yesterday - top candidates could -of course-include Air France .
AT being bought by AFKLM seems like the most fesible solution, since AF has a big presense on the Moroccan market. They fly to Casablanca four times daily Rabat twice daily and to Marrakech. KLM on the other hand stopped flying to CMN a couple of years ago, the flight then became a codeshare flight on Transavia, who after a couple of years dropped the route leaving AT as the only airline to fly between AMS and Morocco. If AT is the only airline to fly between several european destinations and morocco, how comes that they're doing so bad? Besides AFKLM already own a 4% share in AT.
Quoting DALCE (Reply 3): Would this mean another catch for LH
That wouldn't seem very likely IMHO, besides doesn't LH have a bunch of other balls in the air? LH's presense on the Moroccan market isn't big. They only fly FRA-CMN five times weekly, they used to fly the route two times daily i think.
I fly to CMN quite a lot and if i have to chose which airline to fly i would prefer to fly LH. The service on the FRA-CMN leg is much better than on AF. They serve a hot meal and adrink before the meal, but they only give a sandwich on the ARN-FRA leg. AF on the other hand serve a cold meal on both segments which is sort of better than LH.
RoyalAirMaroc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3261 times:
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 9): Even police cars in North Moroccan cities carry Spanish titles (beside the Arabic and French ones of course)
I have been to morocco over 20 times and travelled most of morocco and have never seen this. IIRC they only do have Arabic and French titles.
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 12): so i could imagine that the airline isn't doing very well right now.
The last time i checked up on to see how AT was doing they seemed fine. An increase in passenger numbers between 07/08 and between Jan and Sept this year. They also have less competition into CMN from major Hubs such as LHR and AMS (with GB being sold to U2). And are also the only provider of direct flights into TNG from the UK. What could possible be the problem ?
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