IAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 501 posts, RR: 45 Posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 26087 times:
Hey All,
Picked this gem out of the Spirit 3Q earnings call this morning. Looks like they've completed fabrication of the upper lobe of section 41 of the first 747-8F. In English, that means the window section of the iconic 747 hump is ready to go. It doesn't look much different from the 747-400, but it sure is progress. McNerney warned last week of the challenges to the 747-8 schedule. As I see it, most of it is engineering related because of the resources that 787 is getting. Funny really, the 747 has always gotten the short end of the stick whether it was SST in the late 1960s or 787 now. Can't wait to see her all put together next year.
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1341 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 25817 times:
From that angle it looks just like a -400. Are there any structural differences between the -400 and the 8 in that part of the fuselage? Looks great, though, and congrats to Boeing!
Daleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 15 Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 25671 times:
Does just look like a -400 to me. Well done to Boeing for further developing the 747 but I do think they should've concentrated more on getting the 787 ready for service.
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Danfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1780 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 25507 times:
Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 3): Does just look like a -400 to me. Well done to Boeing for further developing the 747 but I do think they should've concentrated more on getting the 787 ready for service.
Totally agree, especially when you consider the backlog for each aircraft. Maybe as the 787 has sold so well they are now trying to get a prototype 748 ready asap to show to the world to gain more orders.
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ERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 25286 times:
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26723 posts, RR: 83 Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 24976 times:
I can't remember (been awhile since I walked the floor), but do 747-400 Section 41's arrive complete? I know there are jigs at PAE for doing internal fittings, but I cannot recall if the 41's arrive complete or if they are built in the jigs.
KFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3262 posts, RR: 33 Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 24382 times:
At this rate, we might just see a 748 in the air before a 787.
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Manfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks ago) and read 22306 times:
Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 5): Thank you for posting this information and the picture. Made my day
That makes two of us.
I see no problem with starting the 748 project whilst the 787 is still underway. My guess is most of the people working on her (748) came off the classics and are not privy to what's going on over at the 787 building.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 21759 times:
At Everett OCT 10th, a Boeing spokesperson told me the new wing is at Boeing, but not yet assembled because of the strike. My understanding it is a different wing than the 400 like the 737NG's have a different wing than the older 737's.
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Ek773er From Greece, joined Oct 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 21329 times:
Way to go Boeing!!! Great news ....
But can anyone answer the authors question :
"Does the General Electric GEnx-1B engine have to fly on 787 before the GEnx-2B engine can fly on the 747-8F"?
Jadawin From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 4 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 20953 times:
It is interesting to note that a number of people have said that the image of the lobe sections looks like a 747-400 lobe section. The picture in the article is of a 748F -- shouldn't the lobe section look closer to a 741 or 742? I just saying this because the drawings we have of the 748F dont show an extended upper deck - such as appears on the 743, 744, 748I.
Personally i think the picture looks like a 742 - the lobe doesn't look long enough to be a 744
PC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2239 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 20772 times:
Quoting Jadawin (Reply 16): Personally i think the picture looks like a 742 - the lobe doesn't look long enough to be a 744
Keep in mind that the first 748 built will be a freighter, so it will have the same upper deck as the -100/200's.
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Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26723 posts, RR: 83 Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 19834 times:
Quoting Jadawin (Reply 16): It is interesting to note that a number of people have said that the image of the lobe sections looks like a 747-400 lobe section. The picture in the article is of a 748F -- shouldn't the lobe section look closer to a 741 or 742?
Warren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 19704 times:
Can't wait to fly the passenger version! Definitely book the premire flight with LH. W
Nomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1562 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 19385 times:
The day the 748 flies I'll finally forgive Boeing for building the SP.
Andhen From Norway, joined Dec 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18689 times:
The timeline in the link, says that major assembly should start in early 2008.. Well, now major structures, like the one in the picture are getting off the factory floor, that suggests we already have a delay of 1/2 year, at least..
FlyLKU From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 721 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 17943 times:
It will be interesting to see which aircraft, the 747-8 or the A380, looks larger. Clearly the A380 is the larger of the two but the -8 is 250 ft long versus the A380's 238 ft. This may create the illusion, from some angles, of the -8 being larger although the A380's wing is 261 ft versus the -8's 224.
TropicBird From United States of America, joined May 2005, 502 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15266 times:
Anyone know what percentage of the 747-8 is built in the USA?
25 Upcfordcruiser: Sorry if I'm behind the times... did they ever decide if it'll be a dedicated freighter or will a pax version be made?
26 YULWinterSkies: Correct. Bottom line is: it is still a 747, therefore it looks like a 747! Well, orders for the pax version are few but not nil, and nothing has been
27 Stitch: The passenger version has 28 orders and 4 MoUs to date, so while at least forum member believes it should be or will be canceled, such an outcome app
28 Warren747sp: Re-Reply 20 What is wrong with the SP. It is like the only airliners besides the Concorde that can cruise at close to FT450 not to mention all the wor
29 Tdscanuck: In the freighter, I don't think so, except maybe the windows (not sure about that). On the passenger version, I think the plug is in the hump area, s
30 ADent: The GEnx-1B was certified early 2008. I don't think the improved -1B is re-certified yet. The -2B is not yet certified, but was planned to be so by ea
31 American 767: And none has ever crashed. It was a great airplane at its time in the 70's and 80's. Until the 400 arrived in the late 80's, the SP could fly nonstop
32 Zeke: I remember the 744 cockpit was but by Boeing just near where the new 747-8 spar jig was placed, looks like even more outsourcing by Boeing on the 747-
33 Liedetectors: Not true - Spirit (formerly Boeing) Wichita has always built the cockpit section of the 747. They do not however build the entire Section 41, which as
34 Stratofortress: Can anybody explain how certain sections got their number e.g. Section 41 etc. Also, why are there missing sections e.g. 43, 45? Thanks.
35 CCA: Can't remember why but the 747 goes Section 41/42/44/46/48 which is basically the nose (41) / fwd of wings (42) / wings and wheel well (44) / aft sect
40 Zeke: 4 feet below the cockpit window would not be in the cockpit would it ? Of what, wheels, engines, spar ? I do not expect to see the 747-8 to fly in 20
41 Dynamicsguy: Of what, wheels, engines, spar ? Final assembly began when the first wing spar was loaded into the assembly tooling.
42 Pdxcessna206: That is going to be one good-looking airplane. With the bigger engines and longer fuselage, that plane is going to make heads turn. It will be strikin
44 Kimberlyrj: Really? I mean as Sir Branson as have many other people, the Boeing 747 is a great aircraft but she sure is ugly. I work on the B744 most weeks and I
45 RussianJet: I'm sure it will look awesome when it's built, and the 747 has always been a beautiful aircraft. However, I can't get too excited about this - as many
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