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NW In-flight To Get Delta Service  
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4764 posts, RR: 44
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14721 times:

Delta has decided to continue Delta's current service as the combined in-flight service program for the merged airline. This means free in-flight snacks, pillows and blankets coming back to NWA.

Additionally, IFE is rumored to be around the corner. Welcome to the new Delta!

Quote:

CEO: Northwest routes would gain Delta amenities
By KELLY YAMANOUCHI

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Wednesday, October 29, 2008

If its proposed merger with Northwest Airlines is approved, Delta Air Lines plans to expand some of its amenities to Northwest flights, including free in-flight snacks for coach passengers and pillows and blankets in flight, said Delta Chief Executive Richard Anderson during a luncheon talk to the Commerce Club in Atlanta on Wednesday.

“It’ll be Delta’s in-flight service,” Anderson said. “We’ve made a lot of the core decisions about product and uniform and flight schedules.”


http://www.ajc.com/business/content/...2008/10/29/anderson_delta_ceo.html


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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2693 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14674 times:

Hardly surprising, but a welcome detail nonetheless. Hopefully they'll slap their new IFE in the NW birds. I just experienced it again (and the new slimlines for the first time) on a 763 on Monday and it was fantastic. Keep it up, DL!

User currently offlineUCLAX From United States of America, joined May 2003, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14668 times:

Very cool for a Californian who travels to MEM and Michigan a lot. NW's service is always friendly, and a snack and (hopefully) IFE will be nice additions.


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User currently offlineSimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 922 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14621 times:



Quoting Alitalia744 (Thread starter):
This means free in-flight snacks, pillows and blankets coming back to NWA.

Northwest already has free pillows and blankets available upon request.


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14586 times:

So does this mean that we will no longer have World Business Class on NW anymore  Sad
I*ve never liked the idea about killing the NW brand, why couldn*t they do like AF&KL.



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7565 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14394 times:



Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
So does this mean that we will no longer have World Business Class on NW anymore
I*ve never liked the idea about killing the NW brand, why couldn*t they do like AF&KL.

Yes we will have business elite with window seats that face away from windows and a ways from windows thus, its like being in the middle seat from the window.

They won't keep the AF&KL type thing because Delta and most of their employees have always thought they were the gods of the aviation industry.

Now on board here is what you will get, instead of "what would you like to drink" you will get "watcha want"



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User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14370 times:

I really hope DL roles out their IFE on the A320s/757s extremely quickly it's such a nice system to have. I was on a DL 763 from ATL-SAN the other day and really like the slim seats, they are very comfortable and seemed much wider than those on the 757s. One thing i noticed that is somewhat annoying, the first time i used the IFE i was in first class where everything is free, i knew you would have to pay for movies in coach but i found out the other day you have to pay $2 per comedy show (on HBO) and $5 just to play a game! To me that's a little ridiculous, the comedy bits and games should just be free

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14248 times:

The one thing I will be glad to see is seat assignment at the time of purchase. The "30 days beforehand" thing always kind of bugged me.

I'm sorry to the frequent flyer who bought a full-fare ticket at the last minute who is stuck in a middle seat, but since it was only NW that had this system, I'm not sorry to see it go.

Other things, such as IFE, are nice but not that important to me. Give me my assigned seat, let me read my book in peace (I have read SO many James Patterson & Harlan Coben novels on airplanes!!), and I'll bring my own snack if necessary. Anything else is gravy.



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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14120 times:

This is good in a way and bad in a way. Hopefully they will adopt SOME of NW's service standards. For example, at NW, we serve hot meals in F-Class on CRJ-900 and EMB-175 flights. Also, we serve in glassware in F-class on ALL NW and airlink flights (This was not the case on short DL flights or any DL connection flights the last time I flew F on them. Please correct me if that has changed). Finally, NW serves hot meals on shorter flights than DL. Right now at NW, if block is 2:30 or greater, it gets a meal. at Delta, it is mileage based and is only on flights a bit longer. Here's hoping they keep a few elements of NW inflight service.


Good goes around!
User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6826 posts, RR: 32
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14049 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
They won't keep the AF&KL type thing because Delta and most of their employees have always thought they were the gods of the aviation industry.

No, they won't keep the AF+KL-type arrangement because the costs of operating two separate fleets, two workforces, and maintaining two brands are too high. Air France-KLM (and similarly, Lufthansa-Swiss) can't be merged wholesale due to the complications of dozens of bilateral air service treaties involving each carrier's home countries.

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
Now on board here is what you will get, instead of "what would you like to drink" you will get "watcha want"

While Delta has some horrible gate agents in ATL, I find that their on-board service is generally excellent.


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6537 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13953 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
Now on board here is what you will get, instead of "what would you like to drink" you will get "watcha want"

Burnsie, it appears your feelings are hurt about this merger. You may lose your union but make more pay and not pay union dues. Seems like a win win to me. As far as "watcha want", I believe you were more likely to hear that on a NW aircraft than DL. What are the details of the NW/DL pilot seniority agreement you alluded to a week or so ago, that you said was basically two to one in favor of the DL pilots. Please supply the details of that.


User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13945 times:
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Delta had their N610DL (the "Pink" 757) at the Marietta Airshow a couple of weekends ago.

Visitors got to visit the flight deck, then walk all the way through the 757 to deplane through airstairs at the rear service door.

The whole way through the plane, each seatback was playing a rolling DL logo ... a very, very subtle way of demonstrating the seatback IFE.

If you stopped and looked back towards the front, the lines of seats, with all the screens showing the same exact thing in unison, was really neat to see.

- litz


User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1507 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13901 times:



Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 8):
This is good in a way and bad in a way. Hopefully they will adopt SOME of NW's service standards. For example, at NW, we serve hot meals in F-Class on CRJ-900 and EMB-175 flights. Also, we serve in glassware in F-class on ALL NW and airlink flights (This was not the case on short DL flights or any DL connection flights the last time I flew F on them. Please correct me if that has changed). Finally, NW serves hot meals on shorter flights than DL. Right now at NW, if block is 2:30 or greater, it gets a meal. at Delta, it is mileage based and is only on flights a bit longer. Here's hoping they keep a few elements of NW inflight service.

All DL mainline flight have glassware in F class, and all flights over 1200 miles receive a meal...also specific markets receive a meal during meal hours.

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 10):
Burnsie, it appears your feelings are hurt about this merger. You may lose your union but make more pay and not pay union dues.

I think everyone knows that the compensation package NW flight attendants receive is superior to their counterparts at DL. So I don't really understand.


User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 870 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13890 times:



Quoting ScottB (Reply 9):
I find that their on-board service is generally excellent.

Agreed, I recently had wonderful crews on flights BOS-JFK (Comair, wonderful crew dealing with 1) fussy baby and 2) one-hour delay _after landing_ at JFK), and JFK-TLV (it was a night flight, but the crew did a great job to stay quiet, not throw a party in the galley, and make a great ice cream sundae  Smile).



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User currently offlineIndyWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 356 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13888 times:



Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 8):
(This was not the case on short DL flights or any DL connection flights the last time I flew F on them. Please correct me if that has changed

Pre-departure = plastic
glassware for inflight
at least that's how it's been on our E170s/175s for a while now


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13809 times:



Quoting OOer (Reply 12):
and all flights over 1200 miles receive a meal...also specific markets receive a meal during meal hours.

Yes, I understand the mileage requirement. NW serves meals on MUCH shorter flights. Many of our meal flights are a bit under 1,000 miles. Also, my understanding is that the DL Connection CR9s are not equipped with ovens and cannot do hot meal service.

Quoting OOer (Reply 12):
All DL mainline flight have glassware in F class

Good to hear!

Quoting IndyWA (Reply 14):
Pre-departure = plastic
glassware for inflight
at least that's how it's been on our E170s/175s for a while now

Good to hear. Do you have ovens and hot meals up there on long flights?



Good goes around!
User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13795 times:



Quoting ScottB (Reply 9):
Air France-KLM (and similarly, Lufthansa-Swiss) can't be merged wholesale due to the complications of dozens of bilateral air service treaties involving each carrier's home countries.

and yet again the same BS.... while this is true for AF-KL until next year, LH-Swiss could be fully merged any time they wanted. For more than a year now, Swiss is 100% LH owned - for the purposes of a bilateral air service treaty it is therefore a German company!



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4764 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13776 times:

From today's press-release:

Quote:

The introduction of elements of Delta’s brand throughout the Northwest system beginning in spring 2009, including Delta’s popular Richard Tyler designer uniforms, Delta’s livery, “signature cocktails,” enhanced in-flight entertainment and other onboard amenities.

http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=11176



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User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10668 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13665 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
They won't keep the AF&KL type thing because Delta and most of their employees have always thought they were the gods of the aviation industry.

Watch you don't get hit by lightning!  Wink


BTW, just how many DL employees have you known?



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13567 times:

As for domestic IFE, I am guessing that all 753s and 5600-series 752s will get AVOD. Some A319s and A320s may also get AVOD. The rest of the A319/A320 fleet and the 5500-series 752s will probably get overhead LCDs or be left as they are. Some 5500-series 752s may be eliminated as leases expire.


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23306 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13457 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
The one thing I will be glad to see is seat assignment at the time of purchase. The "30 days beforehand" thing always kind of bugged me.

When did it go to 30? It was 90 days before departure for a long time.

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 8):
Also, we serve in glassware in F-class on ALL NW and airlink flights

That may be what the policy says, but in my experience, they go about 3 for 4 on glassware. I've definitely had plastic in F.



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User currently offline28thguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 13417 times:



Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 15):
Yes, I understand the mileage requirement. NW serves meals on MUCH shorter flights. Many of our meal flights are a bit under 1,000 miles. Also, my understanding is that the DL Connection CR9s are not equipped with ovens and cannot do hot meal service.

Delta's meal cut-off in F/C is 1,025 miles nowdays. It appears as if NYC-MSP will just barely qualify (JFK-MSP is listed at 1,025 on DL.com).

I have been served a meal in F/C on EMB-170 DL Connection (international flight, ATL-MTY). As you point out, it was a cold meal, but good.


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 13332 times:

Knowing Delta, I have a feeling we will see more meals in F class on shorter Delta flights in the future. Already, in the past two years, Delta has worked hard to improve their hard product up front. Recent (the past two years) changes have included; metal silverware return, glassware return, mileage cutoff for flights from 1550 to 1200, Michelle Bernstein meal options (previously only on BusinessElite flights), and on select markets out of JFK; ice cream sundae, amenity kits, and numerous other improvements I'm likely forgetting.

Hopefully, as Delta installs PTV's on the NW domestic fleet, they will install Wifi at the same time.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):

So does this mean that we will no longer have World Business Class on NW anymore

Correct, World Business Class will be replaced by a better, newer product even Delta doesn't have yet. It's provided by a company called "Thompson". On longer range planes such as the 777 and possibly the 747, I think we can expect to see the lie-flat herringbone layout for BusinessElite.

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
Yes we will have business elite with window seats that face away from windows and a ways from windows thus, its like being in the middle seat from the window.

Just because you are pointed "a ways" from the window, doesn't mean you still can't physically enjoy looking out of it. If you don't like it, fly on the planes that have the Thompson BusinessElite seats, or, better yet, fly coach.

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
They won't keep the AF&KL type thing because Delta and most of their employees have always thought they were the gods of the aviation industry.

You will convert soon enough  Wink.... Really, many of Delta's employees are some of the best, as seen by numerous posts of certain unbiased members, even by those who regularly fly other airlines. Just look in the Trip Reports forum. The only worry Delta employees have is the limited number of NW employees with attitudes like yours coming in and tarnishing the reputation.

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
Now on board here is what you will get, instead of "what would you like to drink" you will get "watcha want"

This comment is ridiculous, yet humorous in so many ways.

I see this merger incorporating the best of both airlines' in-flight. This includes; PTV IFE on the domestic fleet (DL), Wifi on most all of the domestic fleet (DL), free inflight snacks and a better BOB program (DL), refreshed cabins with leather seats and flight attendants in new uniforms (DL), a new Business class product already announced by DL, meals in first on flights longer than 2:30 (NW), and possibly free alcohol in Y on transatlantic flights.

I would also like to know where the Cozy Suites stand in this merger, but no such announcement has yet to be made.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 13318 times:



Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 10):
Burnsie, it appears your feelings are hurt about this merger. You may lose your union but make more pay and not pay union dues. Seems like a win win to me. As far as "watcha want", I believe you were more likely to hear that on a NW aircraft than DL. What are the details of the NW/DL pilot seniority agreement you alluded to a week or so ago, that you said was basically two to one in favor of the DL pilots. Please supply the details of that.

 thumbsup  Welcome to Delta!



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineIloveboeing From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 13305 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 19):
Some A319s and A320s may also get AVOD. The rest of the A319/A320 fleet and the 5500-series 752s will probably get overhead LCDs or be left as they are.

IMO, they should refit the entire domestic fleet with PTVs/AVOD. They can use the new Weber slimline seats in economy. I got a chance to experience the new seats on a 738 last week and they were quite comfortable! The Delta On Demand System is excellent, too! They save weight, improve the passenger experience and increase seating capacity! Can't beat that!

They also need to have PTVs with AVOD across the entire international fleet. They need to refit the 744s right away! DL's PTV/AVOD system would blow UA's (should I even call it IFE?) entertainment system on their 744s right out of the water!!!!

Overhead screens are NOT internationally competitive and they need to move a step up, across the board!

I have high hopes for DL and I wish them the best! Congratulations on the merger, too!


25 KingAir200 : Well, at least we can get Coke on the airplanes now. I've never been a big Pepsi fan. Then you must know what DL plans to offer NWA ramp and CS after
26 AndyDTWnwa7 : I AM NOT getting worked up about this, simply asking the question: Is the new delta going to incorporate anything from NW? (a/c does not count). For e
27 DeltaL1011man : If they move the A32S to SLC then I think we will se PTVs on at least some. SLC-East coast will need it. Welcome to Change They seem to be taking her
28 Dalb777 : The new web site will be the current NW one but with DL logos, colors, etc...
29 OA412 : The rumor's have been that they are planning to move some A319s to SLC to operate some of the East Coast routes. And yeah, I definitely see them bein
30 DingDong : Just out of curiosity -- if it had been the other way around, what would you have had said about it?
31 DeltaL1011man : Welcome Change lmao...........Trust me I could care less if it was Delta or Northwest.
32 DeltAirlines : Had the beef shortribs the other day and wasn't too impressed - just didn't taste that good to me. I'm hoping the chicken is back this week, but I te
33 IndyWA : Cold meals on select flights...the 170s do not have oven and they have yet to install them on the 175s (but the whole area in the back for the oven i
34 SWA TPA : Oh yes sir! Indeed we do have ovens installed on our CR9's however we are not allowed to hardly even touch them much less use them. DL has told us (C
35 1337Delta764 : I am thinking that the domestic 5600 series NW 757s may be reconfigured to match Delta's Transcon 757 configuration, as they have the same exit layou
36 Floridaflyboy : Great to hear!! Thanks for the information! I sure hope they get them going. Passengers are always very pleased to get a hot meal on our MSP-DFW, MSP
37 747buff : Does this also mean we will see Coke on NW instead of that swamp water called Pepsi?
38 DeltAirlines : This will be true for mainline as well. It's all about having an integrated experience, so that a passenger can't tell they're on a contracted carrie
39 DeltaL1011man : HAHAHAHAHA I love that.......great Yes DL will stay with Coke. No clue on when it will make its way onto NW though.
40 Burnsie28 : Over 100, including one that is a relative. Arbitration ends in like 3 weeks, so we will find out the final part of that. Umm its always been 90 days
41 DeltaL1011man : Money. Same reason why DL has two 752s and two 738s. Its on Delta.com now. To bad thats about the only thing. Why don't you pay for it? I'm sure Delt
42 MCOAviationFan : I believe you will see this NW parameter in place at DL in F. Actually, DL F/A's have a higher compensation package than NW F/A's. DL is currently re
43 KingAir200 : Ain't no rumor, bud. I've seen the list.
44 KingAir200 : Since the edit isn't working, I'll add to my last post. The list DLALPA came up with is no rumor, and believe me, NWA pilots do not make up the top 10
45 JCS17 : Don't get me wrong, there a lot of things that I enjoyed about NW's service -- if I happened to be sitting in the front of the plane and had Elite sta
46 JohnClipper : ROLFL!!! I can just see the boarding annoucements here in HKG - "Welcum aboarhd Deltah Airlinz"
47 PeachAir : You sir are full of it. I work in that office, that is not the attitude here. Speechless ... this is just not true
48 Spartanmjf : And, ownership or not, the Swiss public and government would be loathe, considering their unique position in Europe and the world, to forego the pres
49 Bobnwa : The NW emplyees will get the same wages as the DL employees. The subject was about DL not DLALPA. DL hasn't said one word about pilot seniority and h
50 Sxf24 : NW does not board pillows on domestic flights. I would also recommend people avoid the blankets.
51 Phelpsie87 : Unless its wrapped up in plastic and your the first one to use it haha I have never heard Burnsie say that he worked the ramp... Listen, we have all
52 STT757 : Does DL offer complimentary meals on flights to Hawaii, or is it that Buy on board stuff. My Wife and I flew HNL-MSP-EWR in August, the HNL-MSP segmen
53 Cubsrule : Why didn't you just fly CO through IAH or take the nonstop?
54 STT757 : I used Onepass rewards for the trip, we took the nonstop CO flight# 15 from EWR-HNL in Businessfirst, the return trip was in Y on NWA and COEX. The r
55 FWAERJ : Per Delta.com, DL still offers complimentary meals on flights to Hawaii.
56 Mayor : That's not much of a sample amongst 50,000 employees for you to make a statement like that. In my 33+ years with the company, I've probably known 500
57 Brilondon : No. They don't. This is the way it has been on most airlines, if you get to chose your seats at all. You get what you payfor. This is absolutly false
58 Papatango : Where on Dekta.com is this listed not under fleet info?
59 Mayor : If the two pilot groups are as far apart as it seems, they'll have to let it go to arbitration, which they all agreed to abide by if it came to that.
60 DLPMMM : I had the short ribs last weekend and thought they were pretty good. Better than alot of entrees I've had on other airlines, including some major Eur
61 Cubsrule : So you got what you paid for. How is that "not right?"
62 Falstaff : I wonder what the beer selection will look like. NW usually has a Wisconsin or Minnesota beer. Now they will probably have some crappy beer from the
63 STT757 : 7.5 hours locked inside an aircraft at over 30,000ft with only water and soda, and because I used an award from Onepass which I've belonged to since
64 IndyWA : Such as the Leine's we currently serve on DL Connection flights? Hmm..not southern...from somewhere in the midwest where there is cheese and obese pe
65 Mayor : Here's the list of beers currently offered on DL, per Sky magazine...... Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat Heineken Amstel Light Miller Lite Odd, I don't se
66 Mayor : Oh, you mean like Blatz or Pabst Blue Ribbon??
67 Falstaff : That would be the greatest. However Pabst (which owns most of the classic brand names) is based in Illinois now and nearly all of its beers are contr
68 JAFA : Sorry you didn't get the serve you felt you deserved. Here are some things to consider: 1. Isn't this a redeye flight? 2. Did NW list this as a meal
69 Post contains images Burnsie28 : Thats not the point. Newsflash, the same plane doesn't always fly ATL-SAV. No rumor. Well I was there and everyone i met had that attitude that I met
70 Burnsie28 : 1. Yes that is a Red Eye flight 2. No they don't list it as a meal flight 3. Yes 4. Agreed and finally, its been talked about this over and over agai
71 STT757 : Redeye? The flight leaves HNL at 5:20PM, we boarded about 4:30PM. I don't consider 4:30 PM late night, I don't know what time you eat dinner but most
72 NWAESC : No pillows on domestic flights anymore... Bob, that's simply incorrect. DL's base pay is nominally more, but when you factor in benefits and all else
73 Mayor : I don't think you're making it up. What I think is this.........you went in there with the attitude that DL was evil and you didn't want to like anyo
74 Burnsie28 : Agreed, far better conditions, and Delta employee's would be stupid not to vote for a union and get those type of benefits. All europe flights are ba
75 STT757 : And you get food on those flights, in fact you get two meals... We did not depart at night, we departed in the afternoon. It got dark about three hou
76 PagoFlyer : This merger is great news for us "non-revs".....
77 Runway23 : Only on ATL-HNL. The rest are EATS.
78 Falstaff : Assuming you still have a job after all the dust settles.
79 Post contains links DeltaL1011man : http://www.delta.com/about_delta/cor...ats_facts/aircraft_fleet/index.jsp They seem to pop up on the short flights. This way they can be routed ATL-S
80 Burnsie28 : This was before the merger was even announced, and at that time it was "just a rumor" that it was coming soon. I'm aware of that, I have flown the ro
81 DeltaL1011man : Who says I don't know someone who can get me? Wouldn't waste the money to go up to MSP anyways. I'm sure the NW HQ is about the same as the rest of t
82 C767P : For those who who find Delta's service to be "unsavory" and dissapointed it will be the standard used after the merger there is a very simple solution
83 USAirALB : So can anyone get the odds of IFE on 319/320?
84 Burnsie28 : Because DL employee's can't get in even though they now own NW, just like NW employee's can't get into XJ's etc.
85 Jetlanta : As someone who grew up in the Upper Midwest but has called the South home for over 12 years, I will give you one word that should give you hope that
86 Jetlanta : I'm with you. As a Platinum Medallion for three years running, I have no idea what these people are talking about. I fly on all sorts of carriers all
87 1337Delta764 : It is very likely that some of them will get AVOD. As for the remainder of the fleet, they might get overhead LCDs or be left as they are.
88 Cubsrule : But again, you got what you paid for. You chose not to pay more to fly CO. It's not like there's some sort of human rights violation here... There ar
89 DeltaL1011man : This I know........so I can't know anyone who works for NW?
90 MCOAviationFan : According to several DL pilots who also claim to be privy to the negotiations, NW ALPA opening position was for the top 1000 pilots on the combined s
91 KingAir200 : I don't think the NWA proposal ever made it to the point that the DL ALPA proposal did. DL ALPA actually drew up a combined list. I do agree with you
92 STT757 : It's pathetic, I got food on a regional affiliate of CO on a two hour flight aboard a 50 seat ERJ-145. In comparison to NWA, 7.5 hours on a A330-300
93 Cubsrule : We may have to agree to disagree here, as I still don't understand why it's pathetic. If people demanded food on Hawaii flights (i.e. by staying away
94 MCOAviationFan : Totally agree. There is still hope that both groups can come to a negotiated settlement before the arbitrators have to decide.
95 GSPSPOT : What century did you just teleport in from? I haven't heard a discernable accent from DL crew in YEARS.
96 GSPSPOT : That logic holds water on shorter flights, but a flight of this length - it's inhumane IMO. And, NO, I don't like bringing my own food from airport c
97 BAW716 : Perhaps I didn't see anything on this point (I read through this pretty fast, so forgive me if this is repetitive).... While I understand the goal of
98 Sunking737 : To everyone at DL. good luck dealing with many of the NW people. Why because they seem to have the " Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made
99 Bobnwa : How did you as a Republic employee, get screwed by NWA.
100 Phelpsie87 : Perhaps something happened to him during the merger back in the 90's...i am curious myself.
101 Sunking737 : Yes I was a Republic employee, Station Agent was my title, ESE on the NW side. Sept. 1987. I was on Work Comp. with a knee injury, Full leg cast, ran
102 DTWAGENT : I would like to know how this meal thing works in FC. I flew to MBJ from ATL last year and and we did not get a thing to eat. Not even a snack in FC.
103 Cubsrule : ...then don't fly them. If enough people feel the same way, then maybe they'll bring food back.
104 Usair320 : tell that to the US (East) guys........ Integrity matters. Date of Hire is not the way to do things.
105 Cubsrule : What's the alternative?
106 Usair320 : Binding Arbitration.
107 Mayor : Both groups agreed to let it go to arbitration of they couldn't solve it. I hope they're men & women enough to agree with what happens if it does so.
108 Usair320 : It hasn't yet.............Not to mention automatically placeing 400 some east pilots at the top to cover international.
109 Mayor : I was talking about the DL/NW groups.
110 Cubsrule : Apples and oranges... Date of hire is a solution to the problem. Binding arbitration is a method of solving the problem. So I ask again: what's the a
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