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DL CVG Mainline Flights...?  
User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1502 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5008 times:

So as well all know CVG has pretty much been losing mainline flights left and right...i'm trying to figure out how many they have left, I count 41...

BOS = 3
ATL = 7
LGA = 3
DEN = 2
SLC = 4
SFO = 2
SEA = 2
RSW = 1
SNA = 1
LAX = 2
LAS = 2
MCO = 2
PHX = 1
SAN = 1
JFK = 1
BDL = 2
CDG = 1
CMH = 1
BWI = 1
LWG = 1
FRA = 1



Am I missing any????

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User currently offlineCle757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5012 times:

Wow, I think even CLE has more then that.


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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2693 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4861 times:



Quoting OOer (Thread starter):
Am I missing any????

MCO is 3 flights, not 2.
FLL has 1 daily

Don't know about any others. I'm sure their PDF timetable would be a good source.


User currently offlineSaxman66 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

SAN?? That has been all RJ's for a long time. Thats just a one time thing probably. And how about ABQ? I know there was one flight a day. But I haven't checked on that in a while.

PS: Wow, SAN I was thinking San Antonio!  Big grin Nevermind on that one. All those "San's" mix me up.

[Edited 2008-10-29 18:22:49]


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User currently offlineFLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4831 times:

The ABQ service has ended.

User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1560 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4823 times:

What about TPA? Did they discontinue CVG-TPA as well?


SWA TPA



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User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4814 times:



Quoting FLYjoe (Reply 4):
The ABQ service has ended

When did that end? I was just getting ready to look up the schedule to book a flight.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

Someone comented in hte merger approval thread that they see CVG going down to 20 mainline flights by mid 2009. But, that was before someone stated that CVG only has 41 mainline (might have been you OOer).

In retrospect, anyone think that it could happen that fast? Personally, I think it can.

Let the exodust to Detroit begin...  white 



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4775 times:



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 7):
CVG going down to 20 mainline flights by mid 2009

I said by fall of 2009...which is more like the end of 2009.

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 2):
MCO is 3 flights, not 2.

I looked at todays schedule...which only has 2.

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 2):
FLL has 1 daily

Yup, forgot about that one....however its a CR9 on tuesdays...


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4766 times:



Quoting Cle757 (Reply 1):
Wow, I think even CLE has more then that.

How about STL??

I cant believe no mainline to DCA.

How about MIA?


User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2693 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

Alright, here's all the mainline flights ex-CVG according to Delta.com's schedules (some flights operate less than daily):

CVG to:

ATL - 7
BWI - 1
BOS - 3
CUN - 1 (Saturday only)
CMH - 1
DEN - 2
FLL - 1
RSW - 1
FRA - 1
BDL - 2
LAS - 2
LGW - 1
LAX - 2
JFK - 1
LGA - 3
SNA - 1
MCO - 3
CDG - 1
PHX - 1
SLC - 4
SAN - 1
SFO - 2
SEA - 2
TPA - 1

Looks like a total of 45 daily flights. Keep in mind schedules may vary day-to-day so this may not always be the case.


User currently offlineBinMonster From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4691 times:

CVG still has quite a bit of feed, some dupes due to diff ops per day of wek


EQPT STA DEPT OUT FLT # NEXT CITY
CRJ 07:00 6613 ORD
CR9 07:30 6356 BOS
CRJ 07:30 6636 LGA
CRJ 07:35 6434 PHL
CR7 07:35 6726 EWR
CP9 08:35 5851 AUS
ERJ 08:35 6012 ORF
ERJ 08:35 6028 DTW
ERF 08:35 6188 IAD
ERF 08:35 6277 BWI
CRJ 08:35 6392 DTW
CR7 08:35 6668 BWI
ERJ 08:40 6068 CLE
CRJ 08:40 6636 LGA
CR7 08:40 6687 AUS
CAJ 08:45 5496 MCI
CR7 08:45 6347 SAT
CRJ 08:45 6361 ORD
CR9 08:45 6441 MIA
CRJ 08:45 6455 MCI
CR7 08:45 6615 SAT
CR7 08:45 6665 MIA
CRJ 08:45 6692 CHS
CR7 08:45 6709 SAT
CRJ 08:45 6810 JFK
CAJ 08:50 5359 OMA
CAJ 08:50 5613 MEM
ERJ 08:50 6076 CMH
ERJ 08:50 6157 RDU
ERF 08:50 6190 PIT
CRJ 08:50 6480 YYZ
CRJ 08:50 6535 IAH
RJ9 08:55 4507 MSP
RJ9 08:55 4663 MSP
CAJ 08:55 4929 LEX
CAJ 08:55 4993 CLT
CAJ 08:55 4996 GSO
CAJ 08:55 5293 RDU
CAJ 08:55 5613 GSO
CP9 08:55 5835 DCA
ERJ 08:55 6018 BUF
ERF 08:55 6179 CLT
ERF 08:55 6199 RIC
ERF 08:55 6217 DTW
ERF 08:55 6217 RDU
CRJ 08:55 6343 LEX
CR7 08:55 6366 DCA
CRJ 08:55 6367 SAV
CRJ 08:55 6505 CLT
CRJ 08:55 6782 RIC
CR7 08:55 6943 MSP
CAJ 09:00 5293 SDF
CP9 09:00 5831 DFW
CP9 09:00 5833 MCO
ERJ 09:00 6079 JAX
ERF 09:00 6271 CAE
ERF 09:00 6277 PWM
CRJ 09:00 6356 SYR
CR9 09:00 6441 MCO
CR9 09:00 6442 FLL
CRJ 09:00 6486 EWR
CR9 09:00 6491 DFW
CRJ 09:00 6583 JAX
CP9 09:05 2002 LGA
CAJ 09:05 5198 CID
CAJ 09:05 5409 TYS
CP9 09:05 5802 LGA
ERJ 09:05 6095 GSP
ERF 09:05 6170 BDL
ERF 09:05 6217 MEM
ERF 09:05 6264 BWI
CRJ 09:05 6471 ATW
CR9 09:05 6471 TPA
CRJ 09:05 6544 PVD
CRJ 09:05 6649 FSD
CRJ 09:05 6709 TYS
CR7 09:05 6782 LGA
CR7 09:05 6807 SRQ
CRJ 09:05 6839 XNA
CP9 09:10 5876 BOS
ERJ 09:10 6045 CHA
ERJ 09:10 6075 BNA
ERJ 09:10 6095 GSP
ERJ 09:10 6115 STL
ERJ 09:10 6143 IND
ERJ 09:10 6144 SBN
ERJ 09:10 6155 MSY
ERF 09:10 6197 HSV
ERF 09:10 6199 BNA
ERF 09:10 6271 IND
CR9 09:10 6356 BOS
CRJ 09:10 6399 MSY
CRJ 09:10 6415 HSV
CRJ 09:10 6434 PHL
CRJ 09:10 6520 GRR
CAJ 09:15 4917 CRW
CAJ 09:15 5159 DSM
ERJ 09:15 6009 MKE
CRJ 09:15 6339 BHM
CRJ 09:15 6741 DSM
CRJ 09:15 6778 CRW
CR9 09:20 6945 CUN
CR7 09:30 6947 NAS
CJ7 09:40 5187 ATL
CAJ 09:55 5177 ATL
CRJ 10:05 6810 JFK
CP9 10:30 5814 LGA
CP9 10:30 5826 LGA
ERJ 10:30 6099 IND
CRJ 10:30 6416 HTS
CR7 10:30 6442 BDL
CR7 10:30 6537 CMH
CRJ 10:30 6639 BHM
CR9 10:30 6652 LGA
CR7 10:30 6702 SDF
CRJ 10:30 6810 JFK
CRJ 10:32 6416 HTS
CAJ 10:35 5699 TRI
CP9 10:35 5826 LGA
ERJ 10:35 6012 ORF
ERJ 10:35 6051 RIC
ERJ 10:35 6070 CLE
ERJ 10:35 6089 EVV
ERJ 10:35 6143 SDF
CRJ 10:35 6546 BWI
CRJ 10:35 6654 SDF
CR7 10:35 6702 SDF
CR9 10:35 6716 DCA
CR7 10:35 6716 DCA
CAJ 10:40 5139 LEX
CAJ 10:40 5182 DAY
ERJ 10:40 6104 CMH
ERJ 10:40 6124 PIT
ERF 10:40 6203 CLT
ERF 10:40 6259 PWM
CRJ 10:40 6508 YUL
CRJ 10:40 6544 PVD
CR9 10:40 6652 LGA
CP9 10:45 5870 PHL
CP9 10:45 5876 BOS
ERF 10:45 6269 SYR
CR7 10:45 6356 BOS
CRJ 10:45 6369 CAE
CR7 10:45 6442 BDL
CRJ 10:45 6486 EWR
CRJ 10:45 6487 ORD
CAJ 10:50 5509 GSP
CAJ 10:50 5591 MDT
CAJ 10:50 5592 GSO
ERJ 10:50 6014 AZO
ERJ 10:50 6098 FWA
ERJ 10:50 6149 GSP
CRJ 10:50 6458 RDU
CRJ 10:50 6616 AVP
CRJ 10:50 6710 YYZ
ERF 10:55 6250 ALB
CAJ 12:20 5078 SYR
ERJ 12:20 6012 ORF
ERF 12:20 6240 ROC
CRJ 12:20 6440 RIC
CRJ 12:20 6458 GSP
CR7 12:20 6783 RSW
CP9 12:25 2045 ATL
CAJ 12:25 5591 MDT
CAJ 12:25 5592 JAX
CP9 12:25 5845 ATL
ERJ 12:25 6110 MKE
CRJ 12:25 6410 BOS
CR9 12:25 6459 TPA
CRJ 12:25 6607 JAX
ERJ 12:30 6005 LIT
ERJ 12:30 6125 STL
ERF 12:30 6259 PWM
CR9 12:30 6354 MSP
CRJ 12:30 6355 CHS
CRJ 12:30 6381 BNA
CRJ 12:30 6508 YUL
CRJ 12:30 6546 BWI
CR7 12:30 6805 PBI
CAJ 12:35 5356 GRR
CP9 12:35 5861 TYS
CP9 12:35 5870 PHL
ERJ 12:35 6015 DTW
ERF 12:35 6260 TYS
CR7 12:35 6448 EWR
CRJ 12:35 6469 RDU
CRJ 12:35 6516 GRR
CRJ 12:35 6788 PHL
ERJ 12:40 6049 TRI
ERJ 12:40 6070 CLE
ERJ 12:40 6116 SDF
CR7 12:40 6406 LGA
CRJ 12:40 6511 TRI
CRJ 12:40 6745 ORD
CAJ 12:45 5025 MCI
CAJ 12:45 5625 LEX
ERJ 12:45 6083 CMH
CRJ 12:45 6363 SAV
CR7 12:45 6412 BDL
CR7 12:45 6556 DCA
ERJ 12:50 6001 IND
ERJ 12:50 6024 SBN
ERJ 12:50 6120 PIT
ERF 12:50 6167 IND
CRJ 12:50 6657 DAY
CRJ 12:50 6768 YYZ
ERJ 13:05 6001 MKE
ERJ 13:05 6015 DTW
CRJ 13:05 6381 BNA
CR7 13:05 6433 SAT
CR7 13:05 6457 ORD
CRJ 13:05 6469 RDU
CR7 13:05 6561 SAT
CR7 13:05 6745 ORD
CRJ 13:05 6752 JFK
CRJ 13:05 6768 YYZ
CAJ 13:10 5137 DSM
ERJ 13:10 6120 PIT
ERF 13:10 6253 DAY
CRJ 13:10 6516 GRR
CRJ 13:10 6539 STL
CRJ 13:10 6545 IAH
CR7 13:10 6556 DCA
CAJ 13:15 4980 MSN
CAJ 13:15 5317 OMA
CP9 13:15 5852 BOS
ERJ 13:15 6024 SBN
ERJ 13:15 6034 XNA
ERF 13:15 6244 LEX
CRJ 13:15 6368 BOS
CRJ 13:15 6516 GRR
CRJ 13:15 6678 BOS
CRJ 13:15 6715 CID
CAJ 13:20 5176 OKC
CP9 13:20 5845 ATL
CP9 13:20 5856 DFW
ERF 13:20 6167 IND
ERF 13:20 6260 TYS
ERF 13:20 6277 MEM
CR7 13:20 6401 DFW
CR7 13:20 6569 DFW
CRJ 13:20 6625 MSP
CAJ 13:25 5393 TUL
ERJ 13:25 6005 LIT
ERJ 13:25 6011 MSY
ERJ 13:25 6116 SDF
CRJ 13:25 6581 MCI
CR9 13:30 6406 LGA
CAJ 13:45 5375 ATL
CRJ 14:00 6581 MCI
CR9 14:50 6788 DTW
CAJ 15:00 5183 ORF
CAJ 15:00 5256 SYR
CP9 15:00 5858 DCA
CRJ 15:00 6336 ORF
CRJ 15:00 6355 CHS
CRJ 15:00 6372 DCA
CRJ 15:00 6386 IAD
CR9 15:00 6413 RSW
CRJ 15:00 6715 CID
CR7 15:00 6805 PBI
CAJ 15:05 5083 GSO
CP9 15:05 5857 EWR
ERJ 15:05 6022 CMH
ERF 15:05 6240 ROC
CRJ 15:05 6454 YYZ
CRJ 15:05 6640 YYZ
CRJ 15:05 6684 MHT
CRJ 15:05 6712 PVD
CRJ 15:05 6752 JFK
ERJ 15:10 6064 BUF
ERJ 15:10 6097 GSP
CR7 15:10 6342 BWI
CRJ 15:10 6405 CLT
CRJ 15:10 6408 BWI
CR7 15:10 6459 TPA
CR7 15:10 6466 BWI
CRJ 15:10 6494 YUL
CR9 15:10 6566 BWI
CAJ 15:15 5183 ALB
CAJ 15:15 5185 RDU
CAJ 15:15 5546 JAX
CRJ 15:15 6542 ALB
RJ9 15:20 4378 ORD
CP9 15:20 5840 PIT
CP9 15:20 5872 PIT
ERJ 15:20 6020 AVL
ERJ 15:20 6079 CHA
ERJ 15:20 6123 SBN
ERJ 15:20 6125 STL
CRJ 15:20 6363 SAV
CRJ 15:20 6431 CAE
CRJ 15:20 6438 PIT
CRJ 15:20 6439 CHA
ERJ 15:25 6106 HPN
ERJ 15:25 6159 RIC
CRJ 15:25 6392 RIC
CAJ 15:30 5302 MDT
CP9 15:30 5857 PHL
CR7 15:30 6466 PHL
CRJ 15:30 6468 PHL
CR9 15:30 6818 PHL
ERF 16:15 6202 DTW
ERF 16:15 6259 DTW
CRJ 16:15 6372 DTW
ERJ 16:20 6069 AZO
CP9 16:30 5841 MCI
ERJ 16:30 6112 EVV
CAJ 16:35 4990 CRW
CP9 16:35 5858 DCA
ERJ 16:35 6021 TRI
ERJ 16:35 6031 CMH
ERJ 16:35 6100 FWA
ERF 16:35 6185 BHM
ERF 16:35 6234 DCA
CRJ 16:35 6362 PHL
CRJ 16:35 6364 RDU
CR7 16:35 6368 DCA
CRJ 16:35 6444 IND
CRJ 16:35 6574 DCA
CRJ 16:35 6621 ORD
CRJ 16:35 6667 BHM
CRJ 16:35 6752 JFK
CRJ 16:35 6797 CRW
CRJ 16:35 6837 GSO
CR7 16:36 6552 EWR
CR7 16:36 6808 EWR
CP9 16:40 2014 MEM
CAJ 16:40 5146 LEX
CAJ 16:40 5241 HSV
CAJ 16:40 5517 MEM
CP9 16:40 5819 MEM
ERF 16:40 6177 TRI
ERF 16:40 6185 MEM
ERF 16:40 6208 PIT
ERF 16:40 6286 LEX
CRJ 16:40 6423 IAH
CRJ 16:40 6432 MHT
CR7 16:40 6438 MSP
CRJ 16:40 6495 MSP
CRJ 16:40 6527 HSV
CRJ 16:40 6575 LEX
CRJ 16:40 6776 AVP
CR7 16:40 6946 LEX
CP9 16:45 5869 DFW
ERJ 16:45 6006 MKE
ERJ 16:45 6019 IND
ERF 16:45 6176 PHL
ERF 16:45 6283 DAY
CR7 16:45 6463 DFW
CRJ 16:45 6502 LGA
CRJ 16:45 6607 JAX
CR9 16:45 6817 DFW
ERJ 16:50 6055 GSP
ERJ 16:50 6080 STL
ERJ 16:50 6109 STL
ERJ 16:50 6119 SDF
ERJ 16:50 6159 RIC
ERF 16:50 6196 SYR
ERF 16:50 6262 CLT
CR7 16:50 6338 ORF
CRJ 16:50 6360 TYS
CR9 16:50 6403 MCI
CRJ 16:50 6500 MCI
CRJ 16:50 6523 STL
CRJ 16:50 6613 ATW
CAJ 16:55 5007 TUL
ERJ 16:55 6027 AVL
ERJ 16:55 6112 EVV
ERJ 16:55 6158 BUF
ERF 16:55 6169 BNA
CRJ 16:55 6375 CID
CRJ 16:55 6383 DSM
CRJ 16:55 6389 BNA
CRJ 16:55 6429 DSM
CRJ 16:55 6550 AZO
CRJ 16:55 6622 CLE
CR7 16:55 6721 GSO
CP9 17:00 2076 BOS
CAJ 17:00 4941 OKC
CAJ 17:00 5648 CAE
CP9 17:00 5876 BOS
ERJ 17:00 6013 XNA
ERJ 17:00 6074 CLE
CR9 17:00 6420 BOS
CRJ 17:00 6529 OMA
CRJ 17:00 6760 GRR
CAJ 17:05 5099 ALB
CAJ 17:05 5241 MSN
ERJ 17:05 6007 LIT
ERJ 17:05 6023 MSY
ERJ 17:05 6081 CHA
ERF 17:05 6194 IAD
CRJ 17:05 6344 ALB
CRJ 17:05 6427 FSD
CRJ 17:10 6404 DAY
CP9 19:25 5832 DCA
ERJ 19:25 6074 CLE
ERJ 19:25 6158 BUF
ERF 19:25 6194 IAD
ERF 19:25 6234 DCA
CRJ 19:25 6432 MHT
CR7 19:25 6721 GSO
CRJ 19:25 6831 IAH
CRJ 19:25 6835 CHS
CAJ 19:30 5312 PVD
CP9 19:30 5877 ORD
ERJ 19:30 6044 GSP
ERJ 19:30 6103 RDU
ERF 19:30 6269 CLT
CRJ 19:30 6360 EWR
CR9 19:30 6453 ORD
CR7 19:30 6461 TPA
CRJ 19:30 6703 GSP
CRJ 19:30 6751 RDU
CAJ 19:35 5588 HPN
ERJ 19:35 6157 ORF
ERF 19:35 6198 PWM
ERF 19:35 6273 ROC
CRJ 19:35 6337 BNA
CRJ 19:35 6338 ORF
CR7 19:35 6461 TPA
CRJ 19:35 6607 JAX
CR7 19:39 6461 TPA
CAJ 19:40 4966 GRR
CAJ 19:40 5234 CAE
CP9 19:40 5840 PIT
ERJ 19:40 6150 SDF
ERF 19:40 6238 JFK
CRJ 19:40 6390 PIT
CRJ 19:40 6582 YYZ
CRJ 19:40 6620 JFK
CRJ 19:40 6755 PIT
CRJ 19:40 6776 AVP
CR7 19:40 6784 PIT
CP9 19:45 2068 PHL
CAJ 19:45 5099 ALB
CP9 19:45 5868 PHL
ERJ 19:45 6008 MKE
ERJ 19:45 6082 CMH
ERJ 19:45 6114 SBN
ERF 19:45 6176 PHL
CRJ 19:45 6340 DTW
CRJ 19:45 6344 ALB
CR7 19:45 6348 PHL
CRJ 19:45 6426 RIC
CRJ 19:45 6464 HTS
CP9 19:50 2077 TYS
CAJ 19:50 5184 MDT
CP9 19:50 5877 TYS
ERJ 19:50 6139 TRI
ERF 19:50 6196 SYR
CRJ 19:50 6404 DAY
CRJ 19:50 6507 IND
CRJ 19:50 6575 LEX
CAJ 19:55 5062 CRW
ERJ 19:55 6027 AVL
CRJ 20:30 6395 IND
CAJ 20:45 5496 GSO
ERJ 20:45 6013 XNA
ERJ 20:45 6102 FWA
ERJ 20:45 6109 STL
ERJ 20:45 6114 SBN
CRJ 20:45 6379 BNA
CR7 20:45 6384 PIT
CR7 20:45 6422 BNA
CRJ 20:45 6427 FSD
CRJ 20:45 6521 MCI
CRJ 20:45 6835 CHS
CAJ 20:50 5225 OMA
CAJ 20:50 5575 MSN
ERJ 20:50 6008 MKE
ERJ 20:50 6091 EVV
CRJ 20:50 6429 DSM
CRJ 20:50 6529 OMA
CRJ 20:50 6769 ATW
RJ9 20:55 4411 ATL
RJ9 20:55 4466 ORD
CAJ 20:55 5057 OKC
CAJ 20:55 5515 GRR
CP9 20:55 5844 BNA
ERJ 20:55 6007 LIT
ERF 20:55 6205 BHM
CRJ 20:55 6448 DCA
CRJ 20:55 6534 LGA
CAJ 21:00 4985 TUL
ERJ 21:00 6081 CHA
ERJ 21:00 6107 IND
ERJ 21:00 6151 MSY
CR7 21:00 6462 MSP
CRJ 21:00 6507 IND
CRJ 21:00 6513 HSV
CR9 21:00 6591 MSP
CR7 21:00 6592 BOS
CR7 21:00 6806 IND
CP9 21:05 5809 DFW
CP9 21:05 5809 MEM
CP9 21:05 5844 DFW
CP9 21:05 5844 MEM
CP9 21:05 5859 LEX
ERJ 21:05 6082 CMH
ERJ 21:05 6153 SDF
ERF 21:05 6183 LEX
CR7 21:05 6422 DFW
CRJ 21:05 6509 CID
CRJ 21:05 6532 AZO
CR7 21:05 6817 DFW


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23299 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4593 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 9):
How about STL??

BOS 3
DCA 4
DFW 10
LAS 1
LAX 4
LGA 5
MIA 2
ORD 12
SEA 2
SNA 1 (discontinued Nov 2)
SFO 2

I count 46 in today's schedule... it'll be more like 40 after the November 2 schedule change.



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User currently offlineFlavio340 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4589 times:



Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 10):

That's funny because by my calculations MEM has about the same for NWA.

MEM right now has around 240 flights a day, or each city served out of MEM has about 2.3 flights a day. It looks like CVG and MEM are just about equal, interesting to see what happens in the next year.


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23299 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

Well, the editing function sucks, but I missed 2 stations in the list above. There are also 2 MCO flights and one to TPA, so the current count is 49.


I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4527 times:



Quoting BinMonster (Reply 11):
CVG still has quite a bit of feed

The question I think here really is...

Will Delta lower costs if some/most of these RJs go to DTW instead of CVG?
Or better yet....instead of having...

2xCRJ CVG-XYZ + 2xCR7 CVG-XYZ
&
4xCRJ DTW-XYZ


or

2xA319 + 3xCR7 DTW-XYZ


Obviously the CVG market is MUCH smaller than DTW, and DTW already offers MANY...MANY more destinations than CVG so it would make more sense to "consolidate" the 2 operations to DTW than CVG. Right?


User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4345 times:



Quoting OOer (Reply 15):
Obviously the CVG market is MUCH smaller than DTW, and DTW already offers MANY...MANY more destinations than CVG so it would make more sense to "consolidate" the 2 operations to DTW than CVG. Right?

While CVG has a large MSA population, as pointed out on here, CVG has limited O&D. DL has a limited number of "early departures"thus signaling CVG lack of local travel. Where DTW is a different market.


User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4236 times:



Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 16):
While CVG has a large MSA population, as pointed out on here, CVG has limited O&D. DL has a limited number of "early departures"thus signaling CVG lack of local travel. Where DTW is a different market.


Av, we have gone back and forth on this many times and you have made it clear that you have a personal dislike for CVG and Cincinnati, but it is important to note the reason that CVG has limited O&D. That is that its rates, as published yesterday, are the highest in the country, in fact 69% higher than the average ticket price in the country. The market is different because DL made it that way with their outrageous pricing. So a huge chunk of the O&D that would typically fly out of CVG goes elsewhere. Making a broad statement that CVG has limited O&D and lacks local travel is just wrong.



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User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4177 times:



Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 17):
Making a broad statement that CVG has limited O&D and lacks local travel is just wrong.

Its not wrong, its a fact. CVG lacks the O&D to be a hub after this merger. Not only does it lack O&D but its proximity to DTW makes it a likely candidate to be de-hubbed. CVG should, and probably will still be a focus city for DL however dont expect more than 20-25 mainline flights and maybe 50-60 DLC flights. It will still serve all the primary markets and some secondary markets...but expect more cuts at CVG within the next 15-18 months.


User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4162 times:

I am not disputing that it lacks the O&D to be a hub. When it was designed, it was meant to be a connecting hub. The industry dynamics have changed since it was hubbed and I agree that it will be de-hubbed. However the O&D numbers that everyone on this board use are very misleading. And when it is dehubbed, I believe that there will be ample opportunity for competition to come in, over due time once the economy straightens out. When that happens, you will see prices come down and actually see O&D significantly increase at CVG.


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User currently offlineAcNDTTech From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4121 times:

As for the prices, I bought a RT ticket SAV-CVG for the Christmas holiday for about $300.00 on a carrier other than DL. DL's fare was almost $500.00 at the time. That is why the folks in the 'nati will drive 100 miles - to save $200.00. Back in June, I drove to JAX and flew into IND for a RT under $200.00.......us people from Cincinnati, just like to spend our $$$ on fun stuff - $200.00+ saved, is $200.00+ that we can spend having more fun with. For a family of 4, that is the difference in a day at the beach vs. a day at Disney World.

User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23299 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4051 times:



Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 17):
The market is different because DL made it that way with their outrageous pricing.

Interestingly, though, DL seemingly feels that they have no choice. If they did, wouldn't Simplifares still be around?



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17822 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3991 times:



Quoting OOer (Reply 18):
CVG lacks the O&D to be a hub after this merger. Not only does it lack O&D but its proximity to DTW makes it a likely candidate to be de-hubbed.

It also just lost about 10 daily roundtrips today for JAN-APR09, half of them mainline



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User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 748 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

I thought DL had CVG-PDX service, maybe it's just seasonal.

User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3823 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 22):
It also just lost about 10 daily roundtrips today for JAN-APR09, half of them mainline

Really....do we have a link to anything or just thats whats loaded??? What are they???


25 MaverickM11 : Just what was loaded today...it's pretty much across the board; nothing is cut outright I don't think. Departures are down about 4% in March for inst
26 Skibum9 : That's right...the almighty DL is always right! How can so many people on this board just drink the DL koolaid? Funny how simplifares worked in Cinci
27 Cubsrule : If DL made more money in CVG with Simplifares than without, they'd still be around. That's really not debatable. I don't see how that makes me a Kool
28 Skibum9 : I was refering to your comment that DL felt it was right. The fact is, the whole Mullen era was riddled with many bad decisions. Since then, they have
29 Cubsrule : Apology accepted, and don't worry about it. I'm not one of them (and I have the battle scars from W/T to prove it). I think DL's mistake, more than a
30 EXAAUADL : more than 1/2 of AA's flights at STL go to another AA hub, add in focus cities LGA, BOS and LAX and there is nearly no AA mainline left at STL.
31 Cubsrule : AA isn't US, though. It has hubs and focus cities in places that people actually want to fly to, so I'm not sure how relevant that is... TW had 11 fl
32 Post contains links AvConsultant : Skibum9 when I commenting on CVG, you almost like an ex-girlfriend who pops out of no where. Now all joking aside, you need to recall we agreed toget
33 Skibum9 : See my note to cubsrule where I say that DL has put CVG into a death spiral, which is in line with your comments. It all started when DL over relied
34 AcNDTTech : I'll take some too.....they quit selling it a Wal-Mart here in SAV.
35 AvConsultant : OK,,,,,,I understand what you are saying. Again, the demand from CVG is not a constant. I think a creative scheduling model would work geared towards
36 Airnerd : Was cancelled this fall I think. Used to be on 763s. It's all part of taking CVG's European gateway status away.
37 DTWAGENT : I think moving the CRJ from the C concourse over to B is a good move. That way everything thing is under one roof. And they are starting to get bigger
38 Cubsrule : They don't ATL 5x 752 1x 763 CVG 3x 738 JFK 1x 738 SLC 1x CRJ 2x CR7 2x M90 1x 752
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