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User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 748 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2100 times:


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It appears that the picture was taken from either the theme building or one of the hotels that line the runways at LAX. Either way, it looks like they are landing on the north runways. My question is this: Which is closer to the camera? I think it is the Brasilia, but sometimes, it looks like the 747. Oh well, now it occupies my desktop, so I can conetmplate it all day. What do you think? Great shot.

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User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2369 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

Great shot! i think the brasilia is closer.


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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6220 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

From werever this shot was taken from that place offers excellent approach shots . The passengers in both planes if they saw each other planes almost landing at the same time they must have gotten sort of nervous . But the picture at the angle its at its hard to see which one is closer the THAI or the United Ex . I would have to say the THAI .
Chepos
Puerto Rico



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User currently offlineFlyua From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 318 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

No wonder LAX controllers get confused!

User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2095 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

It's hard to tell but my guess is that the 747-400 is closer. Do you know which runway on the north side typically handles jumbos?

User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

The 747 is in front.


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User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 748 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

Well, I have seen jumbos land on both, with the south-most north runway being longer. I believe this is 24L, which is usually used for departures, but can also handle landings. Let's keep the opinions going!

User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3195 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

I think the Thai 747 is closer than the United Express EMB-120. I think the EMB would look bigger than it does if it were in front of the 747.

All four runways at LAX are capable of handling 747 departures and arrivals. Normally, 24R and 25L (the outer runways) are used for arrivals, but if there isn't much departing traffic, they'll bring in arrivals on the inner 24L and 25R runways.

David


User currently offlineEarly Air From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 611 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

The 744 is closer for sure.

Rgds,
Early Air


User currently offlineHNL747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

He's using a telephoto lens, so he has good depth of field. However, objects will appear flatter and the spacial relationship between the 747 and EMB will be distorted. To me, it looks like the 747 is closer.

User currently offlineSuperslushy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

I'm about 75% sure that the 744 is closer. However, this raises another quesiton. Assuming these two planes are on visual guidelines, are they still not too close together for simulatneous approaches. 24L and 24R can't be more than 500 feet apart???

User currently offlineGib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

My vote's for the 744.

Gib
ATL


User currently offlineQantasAirways From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1279 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

I'de definately say the 747 is muchcloser
regards
QantasAirways



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User currently offlineNRA-3B From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

The 747 is landing on 24R. If you look below it, The junction of Supulveda and Lincoln appears. This is where the approach lights for 24R cross Sepulveda.
The picture is probably taken from the old tower, I think Joe Pries has enough pull to take his pics from there.
Telephoto foreshortening makes the shot as bad as the depth perception test at the DMV, but my take is that the Brazilia is landing on 24L, and is therefore in front of the 747, relative to the observer(photographer).
Simultaneous visual approaches to both sets of runways at LAX frequently have aircraft appearing to fly in "formation" on final.

Ok, who's next?


User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

I vote for the Brasillia. If you look at the relative size of the windows they are aobut equal with may the EMB's a bit bigger. If it were behind the jumbo they'd be a lot smaller and obscurred. I don't think that thirty some foot long EMB would look that large in comparrison either. I've seen our Dash-8's parked next to DC-10s and 747s ate SEA TAC and there's a huge level of dwarfing going on there.

Cheers.


User currently offlinePtica2000 From Slovenia, joined Nov 2000, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1643 times:

747 is closer. Compare the lenght of 747 and Brasilia. If Brasilia was in front, it would look much bigger.

User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 887 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

If Joe would have waited about a second to shoot this photo he would've had In N' Out Burger in the background!

User currently offlineTWA_PHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1626 times:

I say the Brasillia ..You have to look at the angle !!

User currently offlineClimbout From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

This is a very cool shot! But it does seem as if though these two aircrafts are extremely close. Assuming the Brasillia is behind the jumbo, wouldn't that pose a significant threat to the smaller aircraft? What about those vicious tornado effects created by jumbos that I've often read about here? Maybe the "little guy" is not as close as it appears in the picture. Mrs Thai deserves respect!

User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

The 747 is landing on 24L, you can tell by comparing the windows.
About wake turbulance note, the EMB-120 is higher then the 747, that is to aviod it. You always want to stay above the aircraft.
I also reckon it is at the top of the old tower, I too have been up there, and the view from up there is brilliant!
Iain


User currently offline36r From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

my vote is for the 744

User currently offlineWidebody From Ireland, joined Aug 2000, 1152 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

Hard to call, though taking 747 length at about 68m, and Brasilia length of 20m, I'd say the 744 is closer.....then again, looking at the cockpit and windshield size, I ain't too sure....one thing though is that it is easier to see the features of the 744, the Brasilia looks slightly more blurred and therefore further away......considering separation minima, the Brasilia shouls look a good deal bigger if it was closer....

User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

The Brasilia is closer. If it was behind it would be in danger of flying into the wing of the 747.

Thom@s



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User currently offlineSwake From Belgium, joined Jan 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1500 times:

I'd go for the EMB!

User currently offlineLV-7772 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

The 747 is closer, no doubt.

Peter


25 Post contains images Notarzt : I'd say the United Express EMB-120 is landing on 24L, and the Thai B747 on 24R. Daniel PS.: Votes stand at 8 for the EMB-120 vs. 13 for the B747...
26 Redngold : You can calculate it if you know the distance between runway centerlines and the length of each aircraft. It takes some trig. Based on what I see, tho
27 Mason : Thanks for all the responses! My vote is still for the EMB-120. I just can't see it any other way. I guess we'll never know. Anyone want to e-mail Joe
28 B-787 : In these types of approaches to LAX the smaller aircraft is always on 24R higher and tailing the larger one unless they are two turboprops mostly EMB-
29 Post contains images Kevin : Personally me I think the 744 is closer. And by the way did you notice that there are actually three aircraft on the picture Thai, United and an ad on
30 MEA-707 : The 744 is closer. The length of a 747 is 70,6 meters, of an EMB 20 meters. So the 747 3.5 times as long as the EMB. On the picture, the 747 appears m
31 USAFHummer : I e-mailed Joe, and he confirmed that...the 744 is indeed closer... Greg
32 Post contains images Thom@s : Well, then me and 8 others stand corrected. Thom@s
33 GOT : I'd say that the 747 is clooser. Anyway, great shot. Hope there are more shots like this in the database. GOT
34 Post contains images L'EspaceA340 : I e-maiedl him too... guess I was just too slow in posting
35 Joe pries : Yes guys, the 744 was closer- landing on 24L and the Brasilia is on 24R. I actually did not even see/pay attention to the Brasilia at the time i shot
36 SJC-Alien : Was the burger going to visible or the store,,,? ha haaaa Alien
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