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Frontier And Their Airfares?  
User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 5
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1995 times:

So after booking several flights for work the past few days, I've been getting a lot of flack from our corporate travel dept because my flights I've booked on DL are significantly higher than flights on Frontier.

Case in point, SLC-AUS on DL, $376 SLC-AUS on F9 $210. SLC-DCA DL $418, F9 is $259. All other airlines are within $15 to $20 of Delta's flights like AA, CO, UA, etc. US seems to be in the same ballpark as F9 but my gosh, are they both hurting that bad to fill seats? I know their costs aren't lower than DL's in any significance, but even at that lower fare, I'm just not going to fly with them, especially US.

Anyone else seeing this trend, and what does it mean for F9? Are they still headed towards liquidation, or are they making steps in the right direction away from that?


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25693 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1955 times:
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Quoting Fanoftristars (Thread starter):
US seems to be in the same ballpark as F9 but my gosh, are they both hurting that bad to fill seats?

The battleground is DEN, and, generally speaking, Frontier is matching Southwest's fares.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/29/20081029-B5AE_FARES/

RMN: "In Denver, however, fares increased just three percent in the second quarter to an average of $320.40, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. While ticket prices here have been rising over the past year, they are below the national average and are significantly lower than in 2000 and 2001.

Local travelers can thank heavy competition for keeping fares in check. Denver is one of just a handful of cities where three carriers - United Airlines, Frontier Airlines and Southwest Airlines - have large operations."


As to filling seats, Frontier's 82.8% load factor would indicate that is not a problem.

mariner



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User currently offlineRonmacIAH From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

F9 is a great airline to fly and you're missing out by flying on another carrier - paying more for a similar flight and not enjoying good service F9 is known for.

We continue to fly them on the IAH-DEN run and will do so again in several weeks. Flew F9 recently from IAH-SLC and it was a great flight coming and going. And this is from a diehard CO fan who usually flies nothing but our own hometown airline from IAH.



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User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2222 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1766 times:



Quoting Mariner (Reply 1):
The battleground is DEN, and, generally speaking, Frontier is matching Southwest's fares.

I've been doing quite a bit of research right now, and based upon my initial findings frontier is pricing the lowest on most routes and connecting options they offer. Similarly, US are second but WN are third (although they most of the times fare lower than US when in direct competition).

Without having insider knowledge into F9, I'd say their yield must be dire right now compared to the rest of the industry. Hopefully they'll manage to get their airfare up soon...


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25693 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1719 times:
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Quoting Runway23 (Reply 3):
Without having insider knowledge into F9, I'd say their yield must be dire right now compared to the rest of the industry. Hopefully they'll manage to get their airfare up soon...

I'm not sure that you need insider knowledge. Yield, from the September report:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/081006/lam106.html?.v=101

Mainline yield: "For September 2008, Frontier reported passenger yield of 10.60 cents, an 8.3 percent increase from the same period last year."

Lynx yield: "Lynx Aviation carried 90,992 passengers with a passenger yield of 21.38 cents."

There is no year-over-year comparison for Lynx because Lynx wasn't flying a year ago.

mariner



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