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Is DL Rumored to be getting the 777-300?  
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1865 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11498 times:
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I was reading in another thread that DL is getting 773's from EK. I wanted to know how much truth is in this rumor and when could we possibly see that stretched 777 hanging out the TOC bay?


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12428 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11462 times:

Without actually having heard the rumour, I'd say it's most unlikely; the only 773s EK are likely to want to get rid of are the older non-ER ones (and I haven't heard anything to indicate that this is so). These would be of little use/interest to DL. I could see DL going for 77Ws as a replacement for NW 744s, but these would likely be brand new aircraft.

User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5240 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11460 times:

It was rumored that DL was interested in some of EK's non-ER 773's but EK decided to renew the leases on the aircraft at the last minute so it's a no go.


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11446 times:
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I would have thought that it was unlikely - with the merger on their hands why would they want to create yet another small subfleet - in the longer term I can definitely see them going for an order for brand new 77Ws


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1865 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11437 times:
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 Sad And just like that my dreams of a DL 773 are dashed. Thanks for the help


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User currently onlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1874 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11413 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 4):
And just like that my dreams of a DL 773 are dashed. Thanks for the help

Don't worry. You may not see 773 in DL fleet, but my gut is telling me they will go for 77W when the time comes.



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8527 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11394 times:
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Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 4):
And just like that my dreams of a DL 773 are dashed

- Not so fast, the 77W would be a good choice as a 744 replacement & will work nicely with the 77L fleet DL are growing.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11370 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 3):
why would they want to create yet another small subfleet -

it wouldn't be much of a subfleet... EK's aircraft would've had perfect cockpit, parts, spares, and engine commonality with DL's 772ERs.

The expense of adding them would've been quite easy to overcome with the additional revenue they could bring to the table.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11046 times:



Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 5):
but my gut is telling me they will go for 77W when the time comes

Yes it would, and I think sooner or later, you will see the Widget on the tail of the 77W...maybe just like 7-10 of them for starters.


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10874 times:

the 773 would be a good 744 replacement. It would probably have to be ER though. Is there a 773LR?

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10841 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 9):
Is there a 773LR?

no


User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10505 times:

I remember a thread a few months ago that the DL CEO was not interested in ordering the 77W as a replacement for the 744. But it would be cool to see 77Ws on MSP-NRT.


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User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10484 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 9):
the 773 would be a good 744 replacement. It would probably have to be ER though. Is there a 773LR?

Ha! I wish....actually, there's an idea.



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8325 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10399 times:
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The only 777-300 DL would ever see is the -300ER fresh from Seattle. The deal for some former Emirates is dead, EK leased the airplanes again when the A380 were being delayed. When the NWA 744's are replaced some type of 777 or 748 will replace them. DL will need an airplane capable of flying a distance greater then teh A330-300 of NWA with 8000 miles range.

User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2306 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10255 times:

For those who like to fantasize like I do, here is something to look at, keep in mind the 773ER template I made was a bit over stretched then the regular version.

Here it is :


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Design © Bobby Catone
Template © RP Abraham



Also here is a 757 replacement  Wink


Aviation-Design.Net:
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Design © Bobby Catone
Template © Johnny Cotex



I wonder if Flynavy can handle the sim for the plane above  Wink hehe


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30877 posts, RR: 86
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10153 times:
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Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 13):
DL will need an airplane capable of flying a distance greater then teh A330-300 of NWA with 8000 miles range.

DL have that now with the 777-200LR.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9317 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8790 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Thread starter):

I was reading in another thread that DL is getting 773's from EK. I wanted to know how much truth is in this rumor and when could we possibly see that stretched 777 hanging out the TOC bay?

No
That deal died do to the A380s being late. EK re-leased them till 2012

Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 11):

I remember a thread a few months ago that the DL CEO was not interested in ordering the 77W as a replacement for the 744. But it would be cool to see 77Ws on MSP-NRT.

No Anderson has said he will not replace any 744s with 77Ws right now. This doesn't mean they wont order some for other routes.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 15):


DL have that now with the 777-200LR.

Also the 744s/77Es and A332s



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User currently onlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4049 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8635 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
I could see DL going for 77Ws as a replacement for NW 744s

I think that it is probable, but I think the combined carrier will first focus on getting rid of the DC-9s and other obsolete MDD aircraft, but a 773ER order to start the phase out of the soon to be obsolete 744s isn't out of the question.



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User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8482 times:

I doubt this is true (getting them from EK) and i'm sure they are looking at it as a replacement for the 744s they will be taking in. DL really has a few options, they can get 77Ws (probably new) to replace the 744s as they need replacements and possibly convert those 744s to 744Fs to replace the 742Fs, the 77W would go well with their current 777 fleet and would allow for commonality among 777 pilots. DL could also be looking at the 748. NW needs the 744s for asia routes and now when you combine DL and NW passengers on the same routes they may need a slightly larger aircraft. The 748 would also allow DL to do some interesting things with their new BizElite seats as well as their cozy suites for coach. It would give DL a great creative space.

Whichever way DL goes i'm sure they would get a much better deal with the 748 being the first American carrier to operate it and would give them nice commonality with the 787 without sacrificing any space.

I do wonder though could we see DL using some 744s or 777s to do west coast to europe routes?


User currently offlineSCAT15F From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8404 times:

I am keeping my fingers crossed that DL will buy the 748...  bouncy   goodvibes 

User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8362 times:
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Quoting SXDFC (Reply 14):
Also here is a 757 replacement

Ha! My guess is that DL will replace the 757 with the 739ER.

I think the 77W would be a good candidate for DL, although maybe we'll DL getting the 747-8 or additional Dreamliners to replace some the older DL/NW widebodies.

I also believe that over time, DL will eventually rid itself of the NW Airbus (with maybe the exception of the A330's)...perhaps buy some additional 73G's or 73H's.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9317 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8283 times:



Quoting DL767captain (Reply 18):
I doubt this is true

It was true re-read my post  Wink

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 18):
probably new

would be about the only way

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 18):
I do wonder though could we see DL using some 744s or 777s to do west coast to europe routes?

no

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 20):
Ha! My guess is that DL will replace the 757 with the 739ER.

nope
Y1

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 20):
perhaps buy some additional 73G's or 73H's.

they have a bunch of optons



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8231 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 16):
and A332s

no A332 has 8000mi+ range.

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 18):
and would give them nice commonality with the 787

~What~ commonality, other than possibly some aspects of the similar engines?


User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8028 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Thread starter):
I was reading in another thread that DL is getting 773's from EK. I wanted to know how much truth is in this rumor and when could we possibly see that stretched 777 hanging out the TOC bay?

It ain't happening. DL hasn't even taken delivery of all the B777-200LR's yet and given the merger and all the aircraft they will get out of it, it would be crazy to get the B773 at this juncture.

They can train pilots on the B773 because the B772LR sim is set up for AC's B773's. But they are not buying any new or second hand B773's.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21556 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7908 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
the only 773s EK are likely to want to get rid of are the older non-ER ones (and I haven't heard anything to indicate that this is so). These would be of little use/interest to DL.

Actually, 773s would be great for NYC-Europe. But since EK is taking them back, it's not going to happen.

-Mir



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25 DeltaL1011man : The EK 773s are just like DL's 77Es. They have the Trent 892s though. Why? If you take a 773 and fly it to places such as ATL-LHR,CDG,GRU,FCO,DKR-JNB
26 Baw716 : 77W = 777-300ER 77L = 777-200LR baw716
27 DL767captain : Sorry i was being sarcastic, i remember reading some article saying there would be some commonality between the 748 and 787 and that just made me lau
28 Wedgetail737 : Somehow I don't think DL will wait around for Y1, especially if Boeing feels that it is not developed enough to be offered and present a good busines
29 1337Delta764 : While the 739ER might be a good replacement for the 752s on domestic routes, they cannot replace the international 752s, as the 739ER has less range.
30 NorthstarBoy : Didn't Boeing help DL with BK Exit financing? Wouldn't DL want to repay the favor when it comes to ordering new aircraft and consider boeing first? Al
31 DeltaL1011man : Yea I did. I do. Most of DL's 757s a pretty new. They might order a few 739s to replace the oldest but most will be replaced by Y1. They helped them
32 ConcordeBoy : Boeing cut 'em a bit of slack, sure... but their primary back-scratch was standing by DL against US' hostile bid. Common sense would suggest so, but
33 DeltaL1011man : Delta has always looked at both but Boeing always gives Delta the better deal. If boeing has to bend over to keep Delta then it will happen. Think ab
34 BAW716 : Delta has always had a preference for Boeing aircraft...however, now with Airbuses in the fleet...and a Tokyo hub, there are a lot of options on the
35 Mir : The 320s are perfectly good airplanes that DL now has, without having to make expensive payments. A new 738 is not going to deliver many cost benefit
36 ConcordeBoy : NW's (nor anyone else's) A332s don't have anywhere remotely NEAR that amount of range. In fact, NW's particular birds actually have a shorter range (
37 DeltaL1011man : The A332 can't do ATL-JNB. The only airplane that might be able to do it non-stop is the 77L. (can a A345?) 764ER Has nothing to do with the NWA merg
38 MD-90 : Always is a long time. There was a time when Delta had a marked preference for Douglas aircraft, although they did order from both manufacturers (and
39 Pellegrine : Yes, easily...with cargo. 744 and 77W can do it eastbound, but not year-round westbound. (Possibly 744ERs could do it year-round?)
40 Bobnwa : I do not think that DL paid cash for the 73G or any other aircraft.. I don't think there is a 744ER.
41 BAW716 : I stand corrected. I was reading someone else's post when writing this. Doesn't matter really, I still should have gotten my facts straight. Sorry. b
42 SeaBosDca : Qantas has 6. The remainder are freighters. 744, A345, A346, 77L, 77W can all do ATL-JNB. The problem is JNB-ATL due to extreme hot and high conditio
43 KochamLOT : Agreed! I dont think theres such a rush to do so with all the transatlantic routes they operate. I hope the 747s work well and stay long with Delta.
44 Wedgetail737 : I think we'll find DL ordering additional Dreamliners.
45 Lexy : Purchasing aircraft in an economy like this, merger or not, is not a smart thing to do. This is the time you straighten up your own house and get thi
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