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SAS Absence From The Middle East  
User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

Why dont SAS fly to the Middle East (excluding Israel) isnt there a market in Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, why dont they fly to these countries, will they in the near future Smile

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p.s when and why was SK revamped? why did they dispose off their 747, DC-10 and A300 fleet? which routes did they drop at that time and did they ever fly to the above mentione countries before?


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User currently offlineKRP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1803 times:

SK in the ME
At present flies only CPH ATH
Previously Sk has flown the flw ME routes
CPH-ATH-BEY
CPH-ATH-AMM
CPH-ATH-DAM
These routes were flown on alternate dates by DC8 enabling a daily service to ATH - this ended approxinately at the time that the DC8-60s were retired from SK

CPH-JED-NBO this flight ended with the demise of the DC10 from Sk fleet

CPH-RUH
was flown for a short time by MD83 approx 10 years ago.

At the moment Sk partner DM flies 4times weekly CPHCAI in code share with Sk on 737-500

DM also flies the former SK routes to ATH (2daily from 24mar) and CPHIST(daily from 24mar)

Sk got their new (ugly) livery approx 2½ years ago.

747/DC10/A300 were retired due to lack of yield.

SK has gradually reduced their overses flights:
Here´s a list of SK routes that has been given up:
CPH-KIX
CPH-LAX
CPH-YUL
CPH-DUS-Lagos
CPH-LIS-GRU/GIG/EZE/SCL/MVD (in all kind of kombinations)
CPH-NBO-JNB
CPH-KHI
CPH-HKG
CPH-CUR on to some other caribean destination that escapes my memory)

with the exception og KIX and HKG all these routes disappered around the time of the demise of SK DC8´s

KIX/HKG were flown recently by 767-300

Recently flight were also undertaken on the
ARN NRT route but have been discontinued

Before nonstop NRT flight were made possible NRT flight were routed
CPH ANC NRT
CPH SVO NRT

For at short time SK operated also operated
CPH-SIN and CPH-GRU nonstop by 767-200ER these flights have also be cancelled, though SIN is now (again) served via BKK as a one-stop service.

Present SK overseas flights are:
CPH EWR
ARN EWR
OSL EWR
CPH ORD
ARN ORD
CPH SEA
CPH IAD (from april 01)
CPH NRT
CPH PEK
CPH DEL
CPH BKK SIN
CPH SFJ
CPH THU (regular charter)


Roumours in Scandinavia will have it that SFO is the next SK destination to be added.


User currently offlineSr176 From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

The problem is that as a member of star alliance SK has become a feeder airline for LH

User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1802 times:

If there was a market for SAS routes to those countries mentioned, SAS would have been there. SAS does'nt fly low yield routes where the pax mix. is'nt right (e.g. too many holidaymakers).

However, Scandinavia is well served by airlines from the middle east region. Iran Air from Tehran, Syrianair from Damascus and Aleppo, Egypt Air from Cairo, Turkish from Istanbul and Ankara, PIA from Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad, Sri Lankan/Emirates from Dubai. Kuwait Airlines, Royal Jordanian and MEA used to fly to Copenhagen from Kuwait, Amman and Beirut.

In addition Maersk Air operates a code-share with SAS on routes from Copenhagen to Cairo, Istanbul, Athens and Venice.

SAS got rid of their big aircraft in the last part of the 80's (1987-1988-1989), when they got their new smaller B767's. I guess the reason was that they wanted smaller aircrafts which was better suited for Scandinavia. At one stage SAS philosophy was to offer mainly nonstop services from the destinations they served, and the B767 was very well suited for these operations.

SAS used to operate to destinations like Los Angeles, Nairobi, Johannesburg, Rio de Janeiro and Santiago de Chile when they had the B747/DC10.


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User currently offlineKRP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

SK may well be a feeder airline for LH, however most of these route cuts took place way before anyone had even thought abot STAR-alliance.
START has got nothing to with the cuts, but may however have something to do with the flights not coming back again.

But then again is that not what alliances are for: Feeding into each others network.

That is why SK starts flying to IAD: To feed into UA


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8092 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1788 times:

SK's first Caravelle flight was to Beirut, in May 1959. They must have had a lot of flights there pre-war, I have a photo of Hamra (like Oxford Street or Fifth Av in Beirut) and the SAS ticket office is a big building in the main part of town. That was in 1974, a year before the troubles.


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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

So You consider Greece a Middle Eastern country, well it isnt CYPRUS is, but thanks for all the information KRP Smile

p.s I love SKs new livery very stylish, very unique.



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User currently offlineKRP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

=>airmale:
No I do not consider GR a mideastern country, I merely explained the routes that SK used to fly, and they happened to touch down in GR on their way to the Mideast.


User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

OK! hey i forgot to mention my first international flight was on an SAS DC-10 from Karachi to Singapore via Bangkok in 1978 was 8 years old then, I was sick through out threw up countless times but still have fond memories of the airline, sad they quit Karachi Sad


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