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1-x-x Cabin Configuration?  
User currently offlineLNv22 From Norway, joined Mar 2008, 182 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7079 times:

Hi,

A Norwegian newspaper used this photo in an aviation related article today:

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/5/55/552/552932/fly1art_1225918167.jpg
Copyright: AFP/SCANPIX
Url to the article: http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2008/11/05/552932.html


I'm sure there are lots of people here that can identify what carrier and configuration this is  Smile
Looks like a widebody to me, but I've never seen a 1-x-x configuration on any of the widebodies I've ever flown with (330, 767, DC-10, MD-11, L-1011).

Anyone familiar with this?


We have clearance, Clarence. Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?
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User currently offlineBaw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2027 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7015 times:

This photo looks like the interior of an EMB145...and the configuration is 1-2. The key is the overhead bin...there is none on the left side and one that reaches nearly the top of the ceiling in the middle of the cabin.

Additionally, the windows look quite large, which is also one of the key features of the EMB145.

Hope this help you.
Cheers,
baw716



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User currently offlineSkyone From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6994 times:

it definitely looks like the interior of an EMB-35, 40 or 45. Been up on Continental Express and AEagle EMBs and I am positive it is one of those airplanes. If they use it for a widebody article, they really do not know the difference. Only wide body with 1-X-X that I have been on is AM 767 in J. 1-2-2. CO J class is 2-1-2, so the 1 seat doesnt have a window.

User currently offlineLNv22 From Norway, joined Mar 2008, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6943 times:

Thanks guys,

Never been in a EMB145  Wink

The article don't say widebody, only my guess when i looked at the ceiling/roof - funny.. just felt like a wide one..

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 1):
The key is the overhead bin...there is none on the left side and one that reaches nearly the top of the ceiling in the middle of the cabin.

Explains it  Smile



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User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6724 times:

Semi off-topic, but here's a widebody with a 2-2-1 config:

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User currently offlineConcordski From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6725 times:

Indeed this is probably an EMB135/145. A little hard to gauge # of rows. However, you can see a bit of the wall on the right over the seats. The seats are regional jet-esque.

User currently offlinePlateMan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 922 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6726 times:



Quoting LNv22 (Reply 3):
Never been in a EMB145 Wink

Great plane, I fly them AA Eagle service alot between JFK-DCA and its great having a window and aisle seat at the same time. Though the ceiling is quite low at 6 foot, I can't stand in the plane



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User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2226 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6724 times:

The key is the lack of overhead on the left side. A wide body has room for an overhead over the left row of seats due to the curvature of the aircraft. The EMB family has such a narrow diameter there isn't enough room for a AC had two configerations prior to the763 being Xm'd with single row of seats being on either the left or right side of the J Class cabin. The difference being whether the aircraft was one of the ones inherited in the takeover of Canadian or the normal config.

User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2815 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6724 times:

My regular bird these days making the LHR-ABZ run. That and the BAe-145 and S-92.

I like it for the config and the quick boarding and deboarding (though it annoys me how we have to wait for oversized hand baggage to be offloaded first before we can get off). But for some reason, I always have a hankering for an A319. Don't know why. Only advantage I can see is that the flight would be shorter, not an insignificant advantage I grant you.


User currently offlineDmanmtl From Canada, joined May 2006, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6724 times:

Air Canada's EMB 170s and 190s have a 1-2 config in executive class...

User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8190 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6724 times:

I've flown a QF 767 in Business where the port side was a single seat. Great if you're traveling by yourself.

User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24874 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6724 times:

I agree it's probably an E-145. I was going to say Saab 340 or Saab 2000, which have the same 1-2 layout and bins on the right side only, but the visible part of the window looks too big for a Saab.

User currently offlineRwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2311 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6134 times:
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The other clue that it's an E-135/145 is the aisle - which is a step down from the floor under the seats.

User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6133 times:
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Quoting Rwessel (Reply 12):
The other clue that it's an E-135/145 is the aisle - which is a step down from the floor under the seats.

Also, the emergency exit sign is built into the curved roof which makes me think it's an E 135/145. IIRC the exit sign of the Saabs is in the left hand overhead 'rack'.

Also (although you can't really tell on this photo) but the window line up exactly to the rows on the E 135/145 and on the Saabs I don't recall they are so exact???

Sandyb123



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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24874 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6133 times:



Quoting Ken777 (Reply 10):
I've flown a QF 767 in Business where the port side was a single seat. Great if you're traveling by yourself.

Canadian Airlines 763s were 1-2-2. After the merger with AC that was the easiest way to tell an ex-CP 763 from an original AC 763 (prior to their recent conversion to flat-bed seats in a 1-1-1 layout). CP's had the single seat on the left side and AC's on the right side. In any case,they were both much more spacious than than 767 operators with 6-abreast business class configurations like DL.

A few other 767 operators with 5-abreast in J class, including CO and AZ, are 2-1-2 with the single seat in the middle..


User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1994 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6133 times:

SQ's new C and F classes are 1-2-1.

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1209 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6133 times:

Some of Qantas' 767s have the 1-2-2 configuration in the business class.

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7403 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6135 times:



Quoting LNv22 (Thread starter):
I've never seen a 1-x-x configuration on any of the widebodies

Many have this 1x2x1 configuration, especially in Buisness or First Class
AF has it in its B777's First Class :


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User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6135 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
Canadian Airlines 763s were 1-2-2. After the merger with AC that was the easiest way to tell an ex-CP 763 from an original AC 763

Hmmm... interesting. I didn't know that. so I guess the 763 I flew a few years back MUC-YYZ was originally CP? I actually liked those C seats and configuration. and btw, it's much more pleasant to be on the single seat in a 1-2-2 config, rather than in the 2-1-2, which feels like you're on a deserted island  boxedin 


User currently offlineLNv22 From Norway, joined Mar 2008, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6135 times:

Thanks again guys!

What a poor guess from me! yes 

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 17):
Many have this 1x2x1 configuration, especially in Buisness or First Class
AF has it in its B777's First Class :

Yes, I've seen this too in F. I was however thinking of Y, but my post was a little inaccurate at that point!



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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24874 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1949 times:



Quoting CastropRauxel (Reply 18):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
Canadian Airlines 763s were 1-2-2. After the merger with AC that was the easiest way to tell an ex-CP 763 from an original AC 763

Hmmm... interesting. I didn't know that. so I guess the 763 I flew a few years back MUC-YYZ was originally CP?

A couple of ex-CP 763s in the pre-XM layout with the single seat on the left side.


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