LY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2877 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3733 times:
Here is the answer: due a technical problem, the 744 (F-GITH) stayed at MIA and then flew empty to CDG as AF0390. The passengers stayed at hotels in MIA, and then flew on a BA 744.
Passengers complained, and some said that AF 744s were not safe anymore.
What do you think?
Why did the airplane fly empty to CDG? Was there a risk?
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 28680 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3351 times:
If it was an engine problem, you can also ferry a 4-engine (or 3-engine) aircrat with one engine shut down. If a problem required an engine change away from home base, that could be cheaper than shipping a spare engine and having to arrange and pay for installation by another airline or maintenance company.
Tacoronte From United States of America, joined May 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3098 times:
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 8): Could someone explain to me what is more uncomfortable in an AF's B744 full Y Class than in any other airline B744 (or A330/A340/B777) full Y class ?
When it comes about "old" AF B744 :
AF B744 age : from 1992 to 2004
LH B744 age : from 1989 to 2002
BA B744 age : from 1989 to 1999
NW B744 age : rom 1989 to 2002
You seem to defend AF too much, may be you work for them but I've flew on LH's 744 and was pretty normal compared to the 744's from AF, may be that's why AF use them mostly on leisure destinations. But again, I preffer airbuses, LX's A330 are pretty comfortable and I also like IB's A340, just no PTV's. I'm still waiting for the 77W to MIA!
Soxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 883 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2960 times:
Quoting Sandyb123 (Reply 11): Looks nice IMO but WTF no PTV and only 31 inches pitch. That is poor from a long-haul international airline. It's the expected standard these days.
How can those passengers possibly see that TV monitor? Did they remove the projector/screen for weight reasons, or was it never installed? That's a bummer, especially given that the 747s are usually used on longer flights.
Pilot: "Request push, which way should we face?" JFK Ground: "You better face the front, sir, or you'll scare the pax!"
IADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2866 times:
When an aircraft is flown back empty, like this, to its home base, doe the cabin crew that was scheduled to work the flight also return with the empty plane or do they stay behind to work another flight?
FlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7484 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2648 times:
Quoting Tacoronte (Reply 12): You seem to defend AF too much, may be you work for them but I've flew on LH's 744 and was pretty normal compared to the 744's from AF,
I work for AF but I don't want to defend them "too much" ... I am just curious to know what you find in LH's B744 you don't find in AF's B744, considering that LH B744 don't have PTVs either and have exactely the same seat pitch tan AF in Y ...
Quoting IADLHR (Reply 16): When an aircraft is flown back empty, like this, to its home base, doe the cabin crew that was scheduled to work the flight also return with the empty plane or do they stay behind to work another flight?
It depends on the problem.
About three weeks ago we had a technical problem on an A320 in NCE. The flight was cancelled for the passengers and all the CREW, including the F/A returned ORY with the plane empty.