Air Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4817 times:
At a Belgian airshow (Hasselt-Kievit airfield) I once saw a Pitts Special crashing in front of my eyes. The pilot did a screwdive, too low, and didn't come out. The red/white coloured double decker crashed with full speed steep with its nose into the grass runway, at just 50 meters from the public. The pilot was killed at impact. There was no fire. The crowd, myself included, and even the firebrigade were in shock. The most horrifying thing of this event was that all aircraftnoise, cracking metal, wood and linnen disappeard immediately after impact and than it was extremely silent. The Belgian airshow commentator said a while later: "Uh, this was not the meaning ladies and gentlemen..."
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4524 times:
I've seen a few...
When I was a kid, I watched to F-101s make a formation takeoff and hit each other. One of the pilots was able to eject safely. When I was in college I attended an airshow where a Marine Corps Harrier lost power while demonstrating a hovering takeoff. The aircraft slammed to the ground and was severely damaged. The pilot escaped with minor injuries. About 15 years ago, an airshow pilot rolled inverted right after taking off. As he passed about 100 yard in front of us, he let the nose drop below the horizon and drove the airplane right into the ground. I was the entire thing "up close and personal." He did not survive. I've also seen a couple of single engine retractables (one, a brand new C210 on it's delivery flight) land gear-up. Relatively minor aircraft damage and no injuries. I never care to see another accident. They are NOT pleasant. You leave the scene with a sick feeling in your gut that lasts for a long time.
Pilotallen From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 656 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4458 times:
I saw a cessna 140 crash on a grassstrip in Maine his left tire fell off on t/o and he came in and it struck the ground i ran to get help from people nearby he walked away with a scaratch on his arm luckY!@
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6103 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4433 times:
Ive never seen one and I wish I never see one . I would end up being trammatized that must be one of the worst sights in the world it cant be fun to watch people get or hurt or worst get killed .
Sccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5260 posts, RR: 27 Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 4383 times:
1. I drove by the site of AM 498 (Cerritos, CA, 8/31/86) shortly after its crash; I was taking a friend to her flight to commute to Detroit (a NW FA)- spooky.
2. A very close friend was present in Paris when the TU-144 crashed; he was still a kid, and as they watched, he told his father, "that plane is not going to make it," to which his father replied, "nonsense- he's just showing off." History tells the tale.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 4380 times:
I saw an old airforce F-86 jet painted like one of the old thunderbirds crash at an Airshow near Detroit at Selfridge Air National Guard Base back in 1994. The pilot slammed the jet into the ground and died on impact. It was pretty scary to see.
My buddy saw Flight 255 crash and he almost got hit by it. He worked at the airport, if he had been a few seconds later, such as stopped at a light earlier, he could have been the victim. He was driving down Middlebelt Road where it crashed, and he had just passed Wick Road when he saw a very unusually low flying aircraft appear to have clipped the rental car building. He knew something was wrong right then and there, then he saw it come down in his rear view mirror. He still seems traumatized by it.
It didn't help him any later because he was at the airshow with me when that demonstration plane crashed. I can't get him to go to anymore airshows
Big777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 4364 times:
When I was young kid at school in Knoxville, Tennessee. My teacher heard very strange noise then stop with window open in classroom. A few minutes later, my school bell rang is over. I went outside and I can see across river where Knoxville downtown airport is at. I saw the small plane was crashed wreck side of runway. The helicopter picked up the pilot to the hospital. Later, I heard that pilot died. The small plane was failure engine while taking off. That's sad.
Copper1 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 439 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4339 times:
I have seen three fatal crashes, all of them at the Canadian International Airshow that is held in Toronto. The first was in 1977 when a Fairey Firefly crashed after pulling up, I believe the pilot, Alan Ness, a founding member of the Canadian Warplane Heritage, stalled the aircraft. He was killed.
A few years later I was at the show when the two Snowbird aircraft collided in midair, killing Capt. Shayne Antaya. Col. Dan Dempsey ejected and survived.
In about 1994 I was at the same airshow when a RAF Nimrod crashed and killed I believe 7 aircrew. I can't remember the exact cause but it was deemed to be pilot error. If memory serves he entered a manouver too low and simply ran out of airspace. All four engines were found to have been at full power at the time of the crash.
Hkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4340 times:
I came VERY close to watching a Dragon Air A320 crash. My photos are in the government report. The aircraft had flap problems and every time the gear was lowered the aircraft become very unstable. Anyway after two aborted landings on RWY 13 and one on 31 (Kai Tak) the pilot said that he has no fuel for another try so this was the last. At the last moment they lowered the gear land at about 45 degrees the aircraft left the runway over the grass crossed a taxiway back on to the grass and came to a halt with the nose a right main gear on the main taxiway and the left main on the grass.
I tell you hearing the whole thing live and reading the report later I can tell you I came very close to seeing something very horrible.
DTWA320 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 104 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4327 times:
I saw a "T something" that was made up to look like an old Thunderbird crash. The pilot was close to the ground, and he decided to roll, he was too close and the wing hit the ground and he did a cartwheel. He died instantly. It was pretty shocking. The airshow continued though. This was at Selfridge Air National Guard Base here in Michigan I believe in '94.
Logos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 774 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4313 times:
While it wasn't a big aircraft, I was actually in a plane crash as a child (11).
My dad was a private pilot and we had taken a family vacation from California to Colorado for a week. We were flying back and my dad overshot the approach to Ogden, Utah. As he tried to apply power, the engine just continued to idle. We were about 200' AGL with the airport behind us. He lined up on another runway but it was clear we wouldn't make it (Railroad levee short of the runway - your classic 50' obstacle). So, he aimed for a small field short of the runway. We barely missed some powerlines and one of the landing gear sheared off on a fence.
Upon hitting the ground, the plane (a Cessna Cardinal) immediately came down on the side with no landing gear and came to a stop after an abrupt semi-circle. The plane was a total loss but my family and me walked away.
Anyway, I'm still here 28 years later and I still love flying.
VirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4321 times:
I had a best friend and his family were killed on PA 103. I've seen the wreckage in the warehouse. I've also seen the plane a few years before the bombing.
When I was taking off in a Kuwait airways 747-200 from JFK in December of 1995 I did see that Tower Air 747-100 with the #4 engine ripped off after it hit a light pole and the forward nose gear collapsed. The plane was later canabalized for parts for other 747s in Towers' fleet. They had an incident/accident rating 13 times worse than the old Valujet accorrding to the DOT. Thank god their out of business. Their CEO Morris Nacatomi fled the country after the airline stopped flying to avoid creditors and angry pilots after he screwed them out of $12 million in backpay.
Aerotech From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 259 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 4284 times:
I saw a Beaver crash and explode. It was actually murder. The pilot was a doctor, and his partner wanted all the profits, so he hired a mechanic to reverse the controls. Instead of doing a climbing right turn, he did a decending left turn right after takeoof at Lake Hood and crashed in the parking lot. It blew up right on impact. If he would've pre-flighted, he would've found the crossed controls. Sad indeed.
Dash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4246 times:
FP_v2 Wow, that's kind of rude. How do you know if people are lying. Surely in the world somewhere there are witnesses to accidents and other such things. People saw the Oklahoma City bombing, recent train accidents in the UK, and 96 football fans dying in a stadium disaster. My house was shaking when the quake hit Seattle a couple weeks back. Regardless of the event there is going to be many people witnessing things....
Is it that hard to believe that these folks are telling the truth??
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29521 posts, RR: 59 Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4233 times:
Aerotech...I have never heard of that incident....
The worst incidents I have seen.....
A L-4 with a 60 hour pilot attempt to make a downwind landing with a 32 knot gusting tailwind. They made it down in one piece.
Two bipe races attempt to land on top of one another at the Reno races in 96.
When I was in the service I was installing radio gear for my unit at the FARP at Graff. Anyway the Cobra unit was on it's last day of manuvers and they where doing hot fueling and arming. Anyway I saw out of the corner of my eye a guy walking into the tail rotor.
I consider it lucky that these where the worst incidents that I can remember considering that I work at an airport and around airplanes all of the time.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4225 times:
DTWA320, you were right. Now that I think of it, that ex thunderbirds plane was a T-33, not an F-86. I don't know what possessed me to say F-86, that is the Sabre. I should know better.
I didn't even get the right plane that I had mistaken to get. I was thinking of another "F" plane that looked like the T-33, but I don't know what got me to say F-86.
As for that Thunderbirds painted T-33, there is another one flying, it was at Selfridge last summer. I got kind of worried when I saw that one flying. It did the same manuever that the one in 94 crashed on.
Last summer at Selfridge I saw a P-51 make an emergency landing during an airshow. It was flying in formation with another P-51 and I want to say an F-15, unless I was thinking of another show where a P-51 and F-15 flew in an unusual combo. Anyway, one of the P51s quickly returned and landed.
BostonBeau From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 462 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4209 times:
I saw a Pan Am B707 crash at Boston in the late 1960s. It was a cargo flight from JFK to Europe, that had smoke in the cockpit and diverted to Boston. I guess the smoke was so thick that they couldn't see to land, and they crashed on the runway. I was driving down the highway that passes the airport and I was keeping one eye on the road and one eye on the approaching aircraft, and all of a sudden there was a "bang", fireball, and big cloud of black smoke.
I also once saw a near mid-air collision between a NA B727 and a UA DC-8. I was walking my dog on a hill (about 7 miles from BOS) and was watching the planes on approach to the airport. I saw the NA plane approaching from the left, and the UA plane from the right....heading towards each other and getting really close. I assumed they were at different altitudes. All of a sudden, both planes suddenly banked sharply and turned away from each other. I mean they were REALLY steep banks and REALLY sharp turns...and I am sure the passengers were jostled around...as the aircraft were clearly trying to avoid hitting each other.
TonyB From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 111 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4200 times:
I had the terrible misfortune to be at an airshow at USAF Ramstein in Germany in 1988. The Italian Air Force Display Team 'Frecce Tricolori' had just started their display when one of their routine's went tragically wrong resulting in four (if I remember correctly) of their MB339 aircraft colliding. One of the jet trainers (which was the 'singleton' in the display and flying towards the crowd line) crashed into the crowd killing around 70 people. I was further down the crowd line and can remember feeling the heat of the fireball when the jet exploded.
AC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 794 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4208 times:
I saw a Canadian Regional Airlines F-28 go off the end of one of the runways here at St. John's, NF a couple of years back.
The plane was landing on runway 16. The weather was rain, drizzle and fog, and because our main runway (29/11) was being upgraded, some of the landing aides for 16/34 were disabled. Visability was above minimums.
The pilot touched down well over the half way point, and because the runway was only 7500ft, and braking action was reduced because of the water, the plane went off the end.
The nose gear was sheared off, but there were no injuries to the passengers and crew except for some minor bumps and brewses.
The a/c had also just been painted in the new proud wings livery. If I remember correctly, the reg. was C-FTIZ, but I'm not 100% positive.
In life, some days you are the bug..... some days you are the windshield!
Air Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4216 times:
Ofcourse people could lie. But I think the most of the readers of Airliners.net are serious people! Especially with my topic it would be sick when people are writing a fanatasy story about crashes.
For me it was a shocking experience to see somebody killing himself in front of my eyes.
A year later, at that same airfield, a home built propplane took off with tailwind during the airshow. The plane smashed to the ground very hard due to a windshear, almost hitting two parked, fully tanked RAF Harriers. The unretractable wheels were seriousely damaged. Instead he land the plane he took off and at 100m height he lost power and crashed behind a bunch of trees. The pilot had minor injuries due he pulled the plane horizontal just before impact. Terrible experience!
Many years ago, during the late 70's, as I lived close to Maastricht Airport I saw a USAF Sabreliner almost colliding with a Piper Cherokee (height 350m). The two encountered because the Piper turned in, without noticing the Sabreliner was coming also for landing, for landing after it flew a short circuit. The two had a distance of around 25 meters. The pilot of the Piper turned away the glidepath of the Sabreliner very quickly avoiding the collision. Terrible experience!
HS-LTA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 1999, 231 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4191 times:
I haven't seen any crash in front of my eyes.
But I heard once.
ON 22nd Aug 1999. A Mandarain Airlines MD-11 crashed at HKG. On that day I was at home and listening to the ATC. I heard that MD-11(B-150) on approach and flew over my house(my house is 15 miles on ILS 25L).And later I heard someone calling for help.
Hkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4193 times:
So you dont think we tell the truth ??
OK this is some of the detail from the report of the incident I saw.
ACCIDENTS INVESTIGATION DIVISION
Civil Aviation Department Hong Kong
Report on the Incident to Airbus A320-231 VR-HYU at Hong Kong International Airport on 6 June 1994
Aircraft Accident Report No 1/97
Date: 6 June 1994 at 0917 hr
Thats just the title, it contains over 80 pages of charts tables etc and the full communication between the pilots and the tower.
And the release from Airbus telling pilots what to do if this happens again.
This is just a tiny bit of the communications:
Second approach :
0851:53 HDA323 : Dragonair three two three, we do have a serious problem with the flight control, the aircraft becomes uncontrollable andd we are on the missed approach at the moment trying to solve the problem again.
0853:29 HDA323 : five hundred feet, we do have a serious malfunction with the flight control the minute we lower the landing gear and the aircraft became completely uncontrollable. Ah we are a bit short on the fuel, we would like to turn back, if possible for runway three one please.
0859:50 APP : Dragonair Three Two Three, two-minute mean wind at this momentis zero nine zero degrees at one seven knots, do you anticipate any difficulties in landing on runway three one ?
0900:03 HDA323 : Dragonair Three Two Three we accept...Runway three one and we are ready for the airport.
He tried a precision approach but went around for the third time....
0903:22 PAR : Dragonair three two three, I see you are going around, continue with the standard missed approach prodedure, climb four five zero zero feet over.
0903:32 HDA 323 : Precision, Three two three, ah we cannot, we have a shortage of fuel, we have a shortage of fuel.
0905:52 HDA 323 : Dragonair three two three, we like to make one more attempt, if it is possible we are very low on fuel.
0908:36 HDA 323 : Dragonair three two three, request immediate landing....
So what do you think ??, during this the pilot said this to the senoir purser:
Now the aircraft became uncontrollable each time we lowered the landing gear, I want you to prepare for a crash landing OK.
FUEL ON BOARD AFTER LANDING = 480 KG
25 Air Orange: I lived under the glidepath for runway 22 of Maastricht Airport in the little village Beek (in the south of NL). During the '70's Maastricht had a lot
26 F4N: To all: I witnessed a number of crashes during my military service in SEA during the early 70's. The most horrifying was to see a Marine F4 roll over
27 BDRules: we missed the British Midland 737 crash at East Midlands Airport (Kegworth Disaster) by about 30 seconds. i was looking out the back window of the car
28 MartyS: What's even worse than a plane crash is an airline crash. I was in on one of those myself once. The screams of the newly unemployed and investors burn
29 Ceilidh: I was at Lanseria in October 1983 when one of the Silver Falcon Impalas lost its wing as it pulled up out of a dive. The pilot ejected, but he was too
30 Thom@s: Can't say that I've seen one, but I came close to being in one while returning to Bergen - Flesland from Copenhagen - Kastrup one summer. It was onboa
31 Western737: HlywdCatft, What is flight 255? I mean, what airline, aircraft, and location? Thanks,
32 767ALLTHEWAY: I almost saw a Delta Express 737-200 Marry a US Airways Express Dash 8 at BOS. I was spotting one day when the Dash 8 took the runway. The DL 737 didn
33 Corocks: I saw a private plane land on Highway 400 in Atlanta about 1/4 mile ahead of me. It hit a van, pilot lived but the guy in the can did not. Needless to
34 GKirk: Yes I was in Lockerbie when PA103 came down. There was a huge bang and when I looked outside I could see this bright orange fireball falling to Earth.
35 Sevenair: A Cessna-172 nearly crashed when taking off from Newcastle around 3 years ago. Me and my pal were walking from the terminal to Callerton Parkway stati
36 Cedarjet: I'm about 10 miles from LHR, there is actually one of the main beacons right by - Epsom - but traffic flies North to the Thames before heading West on
37 Thom@s: Isn't callerton parkway a little far away from the airport? (It's not closer than Kingston park, is it?) Thom@s
38 An-225: My friend Chris saw a C-5 once, and said that he could hear that there was something wrong with the engines. I don't know if he was right though.
39 C-GRYK: Twice, both at the Canadian Int'l Airshow 1989 2 Snowbirds collided and both crashed, 1 pilot killed, the other ejected. 1995 RAF Nimrod, didn't see i
40 Rlwynn: This is the truth. I have seen 4 crashes and one plane tip over on a taxiway. A long time ago, Meadowlark airport, Huntington Beach, California. Tri P
41 AIR757200: I was at our family restuarant (only a couple of miles away from DTW) when Northwest Flight 255 crashed, my father and uncle went to the crash site, b
42 AerLingus A330: While taxiing before takeoff enroute to Fort Lauderdale from Boston back in 1982 on Spring Break to visit my grandparents on a Delta L-1011, I saw the
43 XFSUgimpLB41X: I saw the charred remnants of a Cessna 172 that burned up in the runup area of LZU (Lawrenceville, GA..NE of ATL).... got some good pictures of it. No
44 Boeing747-400: My Dad's business friend was on the bridge when the 737-200 hit it in the winter in Washington DC. He saw it hit the cars right in front of him. Belie
45 HlywdCatft: Western737, Sorry, if I didn't make it clear. Flight 255 was a Northwest MD-80 that crashed on takeoff from Detroit Metro DTW bound for Phoenix due to
46 ILoVeA340: saw a guy hit hard while landing a cessna and the gear collapsed. The prop came out as a mangled piece of metal. He had to scrap the plane. He was fin
47 Toxtethogrady: at DFW in 1985. Big orange ball of flame smacking into those two water tanks and disappearing into a cloud of smoke and rain. I even ended up talking
48 Janya: I'm grateful that I have not yet witnessed an airplane crash. I did see the aftermath of a crash at Melbourne Int'l in FL last month. I got to the air
49 Apuneger: I saw the icident with the Sabena Airbus A340 when it returned from JFK. It had just touched down on Rwy 25L at EBBR (Brussels), when the right main g
50 CHRISBA777ER: Ive seen two Mig 29's crash at airshows here in the UK. the first was at Farnborough in the late 80's and the other was early 90's at IAT Fairford. I
51 IloveA340: I don't care ever to see a deadly crash.
52 CO Cargo: I would have seen 2 if it were not for snow. I was working in CLE when a DL M80 went off the end of runway 5R and into the mud as well as the night an
53 Evilboy: I was there when a Delta MD90 landed, I was looking the other way on the ramp when I herd 2 loud explosions. I looked towards the runway when I say to
54 767ALLTHEWAY: AerLingus A330, That World Airways crash at BOS, those two deaths were never confirmed, then again they never found the bodies...some in Boston say th
55 Greg: Seems like a lot of people die at Boston. Yes, Boston is clearly a deathtrap. Interesting that all these folks have actually witnessed air disasters c
56 DTW_Steve: I did not actually see the crash, but I very clearly remember NW 255 at DTW back in 1987. I lived about 5 miles from DTW. I was 7 years old, and my br
57 GOOFY: Thanks God I have never seen one. Even though I live near Pearson International Airport in Toronto which is always full of airplanes, but I have never
58 SJCguy: The only thing close to a "crash" was at SEA when a Horizon Air Dash8 landed but the nose didnt come down and the plane was stuck on it's back witht h
59 N312RC: My mom walked through the wreckage of flight 255 at DTW in '87. She was headed home from work at Detroit Recieving Hospital to our home in Brownstown,
60 DTW_Steve: My dad, who was a firefighter (now retired) at the time, witnessed the aftermath of NW 255. He won't talk about it to this day. He also was at the sce
61 Trident: Unfortunately, Iv'e seen three serious accidents - all at airshows. The first was at the 1981 Confederate Air Show at Harlingen, Texas, A Hawker Sea F
62 BlueJet: I was a witness to TWA 800 We were having a party on the beach that night, and someone shouted, Holy S*** and there it was. I was freaked, but I no id
63 FemaleFan: Fortunately I never saw a plane crash in real, I don't even want to see the TV pictures. I had a bad experience when the Lauda Air Boeing 767 crashed