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User currently offlineAFKL From Netherlands, joined Feb 2008, 219 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6971 times:

Hey all,

After having seen this particular photo here on a.net of the Qantas A380 economy cabin:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qantas/Airbus-A380-842/1420332/L/

I noticed that the armrests in the economy seats are completely dividing, with what appears to be no possibility of putting the armrest up. Will this mean the end of being able to stretch out in economy if you are lucky to find yourself on a long flight with an empty row? What about passengers of size? Will they no longer be able to put up the armrest for some extra room?

What other airlines, other than Qantas, have similar seats in economy? Are they only on the A380?


Thanks!


ALLARD.


Edit: This is not a bashing discussion of Qantas and the colours of their economy seats!  Smile

[Edited 2008-11-09 07:53:03]


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User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 791 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6958 times:

The fixed armrests are only found at exit row seats as they house the the tray table and tv screen.

Regards
ThomasCook



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User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26497 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6958 times:

Thats an exit row so arm rests cant be moved on most airlines. I think the others behind do all lift up.


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User currently offlineSuperhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6958 times:

It might be because these seats are at the front and that the tray tables are stored in those arm-rests (no seats in front means no tray tables from the front). Look at the seat behind in the middle row, the arm-rest are the normal ones.

User currently offlineAFKL From Netherlands, joined Feb 2008, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6937 times:

Cheers guys for the fast replies! Now that you mention it, the seats in the other rows do appear to have the "normal" armrests.

Thanks!


ALLARD.



ALLARD. First flight: KLM DC-10, LLW - AMS.
User currently offlineGrimey From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 449 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6651 times:



Quoting AFKL (Thread starter):
Will this mean the end of being able to stretch out in economy if you are lucky to find yourself on a long flight with an empty row?

I was on a flight from BKK - AMS last July, I had 3 seats to myself on a CI 744. Anyway when I made a bed by putting up the armrests and using all the blankets and pillows there was no problem with the flight attendants but when we would hit a bit of turbalance I would have to sit up with my seatbelt on, so having fixed may not make much of a difference.

In that QF A380 photo it states that the brown zone is in the rear  Silly

Grimey


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6619 times:

Front row seats on most airlines have the trays in the armrests which can make the seats feel more confining, and of course prohibits folding up the armrests for more room on the rare flights with plenty of empty seats. However the extra legroom common in the first row can offset that problem.

User currently offlineAFKL From Netherlands, joined Feb 2008, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6553 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
However the extra legroom common in the first row can offset that problem.

I tend to disagree with this. I usually find the front row seats to have less leg-room than the normal seats. Even though you may have more seat pitch knee wise, I can usually stretch my feet out further on normal seats as you have more room under the seat in front of you. This you can't do in front row seats.


ALLARD.



ALLARD. First flight: KLM DC-10, LLW - AMS.
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 6404 times:



Quoting AFKL (Reply 7):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
However the extra legroom common in the first row can offset that problem.

I tend to disagree with this. I usually find the front row seats to have less leg-room than the normal seats. Even though you may have more seat pitch knee wise, I can usually stretch my feet out further on normal seats as you have more room under the seat in front of you. This you can't do in front row seats.

That depends on the aircraft. Seats right behind the doors on most 747s and some other widebodies have unlimited legroom. Most A321s also have a row or two of seats behind emergency exits with much more legroom than usual.

I've also flown on many other aircraft where you are behind a bulkhead but still seem to have more overall room,although the issue you mention does exist also depending on the configuration. Overall, I prefer not having a seat in front of me for someone to recline into my lap.


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 952 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5456 times:



Quoting Grimey (Reply 5):
In that QF A380 photo it states that the brown zone is in the rear

Grimey, I thought I was the only one that caught that the other day when I first saw the photo. People in the back get brown seats, I just wonder if that was an inside joke on the interior designers? Brown zone is for unloading only.

But this thread isn't supposed to be about the color of the seats. Guess that was an exit row, did seem funny there was only one movable armrest in the middle row of seats. Looking at the curve of the walls, I could tell it was the lower deck.



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User currently offlineIwok From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5037 times:



Quoting AFKL (Thread starter):
Edit: This is not a bashing discussion of Qantas and the colours of their economy seats!

Now that the issue has been sorted out, I'll take the bite on the seat colors.

Anyone else think the colors mimic vomit?  vomit 

iwok


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 952 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4987 times:

Vomit and crap. Vomit zone in front or crap zone in the back, take your pick. Thanks for flying with us!


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User currently offlineXXMHxLHx5LXx From Germany, joined Mar 2007, 51 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3637 times:

I knew that in a B744 or A340 the legroom in an exit row was fairly large but always thought that being seated in the middle (right at the bulkhead) is not that spacious after all..
but in that picture it looks like the 4 middle seats really do have lots of legroom too... or is that just an optical thing in this picture that makes it seem wider than it really is?



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3608 times:

As has been said, the armrests are like that because of the tray table, a result of being a bulkhead row. Certainly not unique to QF or the 380 - all bulkhead rows are like that.

Quoting AFKL (Thread starter):
This is not a bashing discussion of Qantas and the colours of their economy seats!

Quite a nice color, actually (the green - don't know about the brown).

-Mir



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User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1039 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3559 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 13):
Quite a nice color, actually (the green - don't know about the brown).

Yeah, I like the green too!

On a recent Emirates flight I got bumped off the bulkhead I booked but the friendly check-in girl reserved out the three seats next to me so I could lye right down with armrests up and two blankets. Very nice especially as it was a busy flight!

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2577 times:



Quoting Xtoler (Reply 11):
Vomit and crap. Vomit zone in front or crap zone in the back, take your pick.

Or you may prefer the blood zone. The first economy class cabin is red.



User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2563 times:



Quoting Grimey (Reply 5):
Anyway when I made a bed by putting up the armrests and using all the blankets and pillows there was no problem with the flight attendants but when we would hit a bit of turbalance I would have to sit up with my seatbelt on

I just attach a belt around me while I'm lying down. Did they make you sit up anyway?



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User currently offlineGrimey From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 449 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2277 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 16):
I just attach a belt around me while I'm lying down. Did they make you sit up anyway?

The flight attendants just said "seat belts" nicely to me so I just sat up, anyway the film 21 came on the tv so it wasn't too bad.

Grimey


User currently offlineTravellerPlus From New Zealand, joined Nov 2008, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2209 times:

As I am a bit colour blind (green-red spectrum), I won't comment on the hues chosen, however, I wonder if the arm rests in the rear rows can be raised? The reason I say that is because the seat backs touch at the top, whereas they are cut-out at the pivot point for the armrests. In my experience the cut out needs to go quite a way up the seat to be able to raise an arm rest properly.

Can anyone who has flown on the A380 confirm what the story is with the A380 seats?

Cheers, TravellerPlus



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