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QF A380 At Sydney Today 10/11/08  
User currently offlineMal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 713 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6461 times:

Hi all
Sitting in my hotel the Samford Plaza next to Sydney airport this morning, I saw a QF A380 depart at around 9.00am , what was this a positionong flight or a new QF bird ?I also saw it yesterday in the maint' hangers at the back of the domestic terminals. it looked great on take off, and did manage to get some pix's but they are not that good due to being taken through the hotel window.
cheers
malb787

[Edited 2008-11-09 20:38:15]

edited to change title

[Edited 2008-11-09 20:39:09]


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5005 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6402 times:



Quoting Mal787 (Thread starter):
I saw a QF A380 depart at around 9.00am , what was this a positionong flight or a new QF bird ?I also saw it yesterday in the maint' hangers at the back of the domestic terminals

The aircraft would of arrived the evening before from LAX and spent the night in hangar 96... The departure you witnessed this morning would of been Nancy repositioning to MEL to form the QF93 to LAX...

Hope this clears it up...

EK413



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User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6300 times:



Quoting EK413 (Reply 1):
The aircraft would of arrived the evening before from LAX and spent the night in hangar 96... The departure you witnessed this morning would of been Nancy repositioning to MEL to form the QF93 to LAX...

Hope this clears it up...

So it has to do this repositioning flight a LOT, I would imagine, since it covers both LAX/SYD AND LAX/MEL flights?

This procedure sounds rather expensive, if it's on an ongoing basis. Are the repositioning fights also revenue flights? If so, I imagine the load factors would be kind of low. I'm surprised Qantas doesn't concentrate on just one American city until it receives more 380s, considering how strapped for cash airlines are these days...



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User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6283 times:

The repositioning flight is usually only once a week.
The revenue flights are MEL-LAX-MEL on Mondays
MEL-LAX-SYD on Wednesdays (or a MEL-SYD reposition if there is some problem)
and SYD-LAX-SYD on Fridays.
I suspect the Sunday reposition flight is also a training flight, and the need for repositioning will cease when their 2nd A388 arrives.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5005 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6251 times:



Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 2):

So it has to do this repositioning flight a LOT, I would imagine, since it covers both LAX/SYD AND LAX/MEL flights?

This procedure sounds rather expensive, if it's on an ongoing basis. Are the repositioning fights also revenue flights? If so, I imagine the load factors would be kind of low. I'm surprised Qantas doesn't concentrate on just one American city until it receives more 380s, considering how strapped for cash airlines are these days...

QF not like other carriers is pretty conservative with its fleet and considering only 1 A380 has been delivered the carrier is easing the new type into the fleet to ensure a smooth transition... Just to top it off, the repositioning flights act as a training flight to maximise the crew hours with the aircraft type...

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 3):
I suspect the Sunday reposition flight is also a training flight, and the need for repositioning will cease when their 2nd A388 arrives.

Once the 2nd and 3rd aircraft arrive towards the end of the year these flights will become less common unless an aircraft goes U/S in either MEL or SYD...

EK413



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5826 times:

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 3):
MEL-LAX-SYD on Wednesdays

As far as I know, the 380 has only operated QF12 on a Wednesday once, the Wednesday before last.

EDIT: Although 12 this Wed is scheduled to be a 380.

[Edited 2008-11-10 06:03:21]


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User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3928 times:

Is the SYD-LAX-JFK going to have the A380 servicing it or will it always stay 747. I just wanted know because I would LOVE to see the A380 in Qantas colors. Thanks

Contrails15



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User currently offlineVhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1493 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3212 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 6):
Is the SYD-LAX-JFK going to have the A380 servicing it or will it always stay 747. I just wanted know because I would LOVE to see the A380 in Qantas colors. Thanks

There are no plans at present for the 380 to perform the JFK tag on at this point.





Vhq



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5005 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3067 times:



Quoting Vhqpa (Reply 7):
There are no plans at present for the 380 to perform the JFK tag on at this point.

Unless loads point towards a need for the upgrade in equipment in addition scheduling permit ample time...

EK413



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User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2834 times:



Quoting EK413 (Reply 8):
Unless loads point towards a need for the upgrade in equipment in addition scheduling permit ample time...

How is that route? Loads pretty seasonal or do they got good loads going on all thru the year.



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User currently offlineVhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1493 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2673 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 9):
How is that route? Loads pretty seasonal or do they got good loads going on all thru the year.

Last time I heard it does ok with premium pax, economy is more or less empty. But it hauls a lot of freight between LAX and JFK.



Vhq



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5005 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2618 times:



Quoting Vhqpa (Reply 10):
Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 9):
How is that route? Loads pretty seasonal or do they got good loads going on all thru the year.

Last time I heard it does ok with premium pax, economy is more or less empty. But it hauls a lot of freight between LAX and JFK.

Beat me to it... hehe... Yeah, y/c loads are pretty light however QF make up for it with belly freight...

EK413



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