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Hardest Flight To Load  
User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14482 times:

Okay, I mainly want to know non can bellies and looking for a/c of more then 100 seats but give me what you got. I ask this because everday I'm doing JFK-SDQ or JFK-STI which btw we had going down there on E-190's which sucked but for right now the biggest pain in the a$$ to load right now is a tie between the two in the above mentioned. Average right now, 252 bags with anywhere from 20-45 gate checks on a A320. Oh and EVERY bag weighs 50lbs with the exception of a very few weighing less. Okay, so lets here your horror flights to load, maybe I'll feel better hearing them LOL.


Giants football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14494 times:

Hands down: A 757 without carpets or trays. What a BITCH!
2nd place: CR7...back breaking in the aft bin. head breaking in the fwd bin.
MD88 was a bitch sometimes too. But it doesn't compare to a 75 w/o carpets or any CRJ.


User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14454 times:



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 1):
Hands down: A 757 without carpets or trays. What a BITCH!

Especially true if it's a -300!

Next up:

*Any DC9 (head splitting)

*CRJ900's (forward bins are terrible)

*Any flight going to MNL, or since we're going with non-containerized flights, any flight with a large number of MNL bags on it.



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14434 times:



Quoting NWAESC (Reply 2):
*Any flight going to MNL, or since we're going with non-containerized flights, any flight with a large number of MNL bags on it.

Make that any destination in Asia. Sorry but it's true.


User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14385 times:

Asia is one place I don't have to worry about. I can't imagine though what Sprit goes there down there in FLL with the central and south america flights. Those all gotta be a pain in the a$$. We got MCO-BOG coming up but the flight originates in JFK so we'll see the brunt of the flight up here do to it being a thru flight.


Giants football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14325 times:

Near anything to Canada. It seems the Canadians love to pack their kitchen sinks with them when they go on vacation.

In rank order from worst to not-so-bad, I'd say:

YEG, YYZ, YWG, YYZ, YVR

But those YEG flights.... ::shivers:: and of course the ramp screws us on the stacks in our inbound YEG's, so it takes like 30 minutes to unload those damn things.


User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14310 times:

SKIS!!!!!!!!!!!! i forgot all about those freakin things. ugh SLC, DEN in the winter is HORRIBLE


Giants football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14288 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 6):
ugh SLC, DEN in the winter is HORRIBLE

We at DEN are pretty bad..... but ASE is the worst.


User currently offlineClipper136 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 318 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14285 times:

Once did a Military Charter......ATA L1011. 380 pax.....BULK LOADED.......first and last time.......Pain in the A$$.

 relieved 


User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14262 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 7):
We at DEN are pretty bad..... but ASE is the worst.

Don't you guys have that special belt for ski's and snowboards. pax can over too it and pick them up without going to the main bag carasel.



Giants football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14243 times:

At AS, the flights to Russia with the MD or to GDL with the MD
were all major pains.
The clientele for those destinations tended to pack heavy boxes/motorcycle tires, etc,
making it difficult to get all the stuff loaded, not to mention the headaches for
weight and balance.



First, benzene in my Perrier, and now this!
User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14210 times:

But here is the thing though, were getting up too 42 gate checks on alot of theses SDQ and STI flights, and get this twice this year we have had 52 and 58 gate checks that at least I know of. Is this normal, has any of you had to deal with that on any of your flights??????


Giants football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14209 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 9):
Don't you guys have that special belt for ski's and snowboards.

Yes sir, they have a dedicated belt/claim-area for the skis, poles, and snowboards.


User currently offlinePlaneInsomniac From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14111 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 5):
Near anything to Canada. It seems the Canadians love to pack their kitchen sinks with them when they go on vacation.



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 5):
In rank order from worst to not-so-bad, I'd say:

YEG, YYZ, YWG, YYZ, YVR

Well, almost everything is cheaper in the US than in Canada... clothes, electronics, books etc. So it makes sense to exploit your baggage weight limit. This was especially true in the last 12-18 months, with the very high value of the Canadian dollar vs. the US dollar (although this has changed somewhat in recent weeks).

This is in particular the case for places "further out" / further up north such as Edmonton. There, people cannot simply make a day trip to the US and fill up their car trunks. Moreover, I guess things are even more expensive there due to costlier transportation until they reach store shelves.



Am I cured? Slept 5 hours on last long-haul flight...
User currently offlineIadbudd From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14080 times:

Taca A320/A321 To El Salvador. Heavy rear round. During Christmas every flight leaves behing 1 or 2 bulk carts that would not fit. Since every flight is full they have to go on a freighter and pax get their bags days later. You are guarenteed 1 bag will make it and lucky if your second and third bag go. Also for widebody's Ethiopian's flights to ADD are back breakers. Every bag has to be picked up by two people. The only 767 that will fill every position with bags and no cargo and still leave bags behind. Including building pallets for bags. Their crews do lots of shopping during their layovers as well.

User currently offlineUSAir330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 824 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14032 times:

Worst flights Hmmm...

-WN-

PHL-MDW (Freight and transfers alone can be bad at times)
PHL-PIT ( Lots of US non-revs on the afternoon flights. On weekends it can be a pain atleast 20-24 Gate check bags.)


User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13953 times:

OK I realize you aked for 100+ seat aircraft but it doesn't matter, camp time for DRO and all those exteremly heavy trunks. (30 people on the plane, 20 trunks and then some baggage)
The Dash 8's handle well but I hated opening a bin and finding it only loaded with trunks or having to figure out how to put all the trunks into the plane with out going over weight. The CRJ-200 were a little better if we didn't take any wiehgt hits because of being hot.


User currently offlineMtsuatc From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13951 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 7):
but ASE is the worst.

I 2nd that. I worked out there last winter. Every flight at least 120-130 bags, around 20-30 skis and snowboards, and a ton of heavies.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2633 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13843 times:

It was no picnic loading Icelandic DC8-63's at ORD in the 1970's. Cargo use to send over about 6 carts of Bally pinball machines and we tried our best to load as many as we could. With the DC8's "U" shaped floor, we had to stick them crosswise or lengthwise. I believe 26 full-sized Bally pinball machines was the most we could load, along with duffle bags from the mostly hippies traveling to LUX via KEF.

Of course, loading 104,000 lbs. of cargo on a KLM 747-200 passenger version was also a treat in the same era. Bags and some cargo went in small Main deck containers (fit through the passenger door) and loaded on a special, rickety loader to the back left door. The zone weights on the front 5 LD7 was exactly at gross weight for each calculation.
But, the best part was bulk loading heavy sacks of resin, which for some reason was being transported to Europe via air. You had to push the sacks uphill; in the 747-200 bulk bin.

[Edited 2008-11-10 18:33:44]

User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1517 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13819 times:

I second the flights to MNL. Worst ever personally to load was an Ecuatoriana
B707 with each bag weighing about 100kgs each! Hot, heavy, and a b*itch to
haul into the bins for positioning



Cargo doesn't whine, moan, or complain
User currently offlineRamperMAF From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13703 times:

Some of you guys might scoff a bit at my suggestion but read on and allow me to explain.

MQ started sending the ATR72 into MAF and it can be a headache. Not so much the the front area, C1 and C2, with the large electric door...but the back area, C4a and C4b is more or less just a closet. It wouldn't be that bad if all we had to do was throw bags but out here in the outstations you're a jack of all trades, running ops and weight and balance, CG, etc..checking people in..loading and downloading the pax/bags..cleaning and making coffee..doing the trash..it's a full plate with 3 guys per shift (4 on a good day).

Add to that de-icing or OSO operations or 70+ less-than-pleased pax you have to re-book alone and it can make for much needed post-shift nap.

Anyway the ATR, by yourself on the ramp or with a buddy to catch the bags even, is my personal vote...sure got spoiled with the E145's....


User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 13592 times:



Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 8):
Once did a Military Charter......ATA L1011. 380 pax.....BULK LOADED.......first and last time.......Pain in the A$$.

Oh I completly forgot about that. I also did an ATA military charter. But mine was a 757. About 200 military bags and back packs, plus some other gear. Every few minutes they'd throw small bottles of water up and we'd down them in 5 seconds flat.

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User currently offlineStburke From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13305 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 7):
We at DEN are pretty bad..... but ASE is the worst.

Skis, holy hell.

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 5):
Near anything to Canada. It seems the Canadians love to pack their kitchen sinks with them when they go on vacation.

Is it just me or do Canadian flights ALWAYS have a few sets of hockey sticks? Even in the summer.



aaaand it's gone.
User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1620 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13181 times:

Any flight going to or departing from MCO. I don't think you can make it though an MCO flight without at least 10 strollers.


Hey Swifty
User currently offlineQfyvr From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13069 times:

I would have to say the worst I ever did was a Skyservice (First Choice) 757-200 with magic carpet inop and 300+ mexican bags in the middle of winter. That or the Antonov AN-124 bulk loaded with 300,000+ shoe boxes from Nike.

25 KLASM83 : I thus shall third that. Having also worked there last winter, it was rather a pain to load the copious amounts of stuff those people always carried
26 YYCRampRat : AC1286 YYC-PHX E90 100 bags up front. 30 Sets of golf clubs in the back. Every single day. God I hate that flight.
27 VANGUARD737 : At ATA, loading a morning 737-800 MDW-GDL was hell-on-Earth. Imagine a maxed-out pit with almost no actual luggage. Everything was in trash bags with
28 Wn676 : US140 PHX-ANC. It operates with an A319. I had a flight about a month ago that had initially 120 bags and about 9,000 lbs of cargo. All kinds of stuff
29 Wn676 : Boy, something about Canadian flights and golf clubs. I did a YVR inbound the other day that had about 20-30 of them aft.
30 F9Animal : I have loaded a DL 767-200 with NFL gear. No cans, manual load. And trying to not break your neck on the rollers was not fun either. Oh man, that was
31 NWAESC : I've done that a couple of times myself... And a couple of charters to the Rose Bowl. You gotta love the warped plexiglas sheets they had on the floo
32 Planesavvy : I remember doing an Ethiopian 757 one hour turnaround with 250 bag/ 7 ton cargo offload and 350 bag/ 3 ton cargo onload. There were only two us in the
33 YXXMIKE : One of the biggest dog show's in North America is held at Tradex a facility right beside YXX and that would hands down be the worst weekend of the yea
34 Contrails15 : JFK-MCO we had 19 strollers with 5 or 6 car seats gatechecked and dont even get me started with the strollers weighing 20lbs of solid steal or those
35 Xdlx : Many Many moons ago, I worked next to an outfit that did W/B on B727 for AF. The route was PAP-SJU-POP, the pax ( was always full ) luggage consisted
36 LHR777 : Loose-load A321, routing LHR to pretty much any former BMED (now BMI) destination. The multi-stop flights were the worst. You'd had to load the final
37 XPJets : More like "any flight with a large number of MNL boxes on it". Flights going to MNL seldom have bags per se
38 KingAir200 : No kidding. Nobody has small travel strollers anymore. Ratty, old, and poorly taped MNL boxes.
39 Swatpamike : Hello All Boxes of crabs from MSY. Load 30 boxes, stick head out of bin and puke, then load 30 more. Hockey bags, dont they wash them?? Cheers swatpam
40 Captaink : MD80s are a pain in the ass to load. I was a CSA, but I used to hang out with my buddies on the ramp, and have crawled into a number of baggage holds
41 XPJets : Surprisingly, I never really found the -9/MD80 bin to be THAT bad. Then again, I'm 5'9" and fairly good in tight spaces, so it might just be me. Have
42 Contrails15 : Okay, so what can expect with this JFK-MCO-BOG that we got coming up. A320 is whats going to be used. imgine were going to have some W&B issues.
43 Katwspotter : A Saab 340 with skis and golf bags...kiss my a$$ if I have to be loadmaster for that flight. That and a CRJ with like 65 checked bags and 30 valets.
44 Goldenshield : How about 3 manually loaded pallets of kayaks going to a competition? I've done that one. It wasn't fun.
45 Braby : Worst i've ever done was an AH 767 turnaround, over 900 bags outbound on alone, most of which were bulk loaded in compartments 1 and 3 due to a lack o
46 NWAESC : Only in the world of aviation is "balikbayan box" a four letter word...
47 S5LineATL : Ha Ha I scoff at you all!..(please imagine that being said in a funny voice or the satire just seems mean) Bulk loading an Omni Air DC10 or a World MD
48 AirFranceJFK : Just about all "ethnic" flights from the U.S. could technically fall in this category. Having worked North American Airlines' flight to GEO/STI/SDQ wi
49 Stil : Hi. I'll never forget an A321 with 250 bags. The aircraft brought only two ULDs and it wasn't prepared for bulk storage. Before asking permission to t
50 F9Animal : Oh yeah!! I got a better one! LOL! 15 friggin gate checked wheelchairs! Most were the heavy electric ones. The entire ramp team had to go up to the g
51 LHR777 : ...and that's what we do in this industry - whatever it takes to get the job done.
52 FlyDeltaJets : 757 is easy to me....all you need is a second person. The hard one is a full 737-800. That Aft compartment seems so long and no matter where you are a
53 F9Animal : Yes! And when you are at the door throwing the luggage or freight to the guy stacking, every bag seems to stop mid point. I would get so frustrated w
54 Acey559 : I agree that MD-80/DC-9 series aircraft are crap to load, especially if you didn't bring your knee pads to work that day. I only had to do one G4 char
55 Fleet Service : Delta doesn't have carpets on the 738? Ouch. I know it doesn't fall into the original posters category, but the F100 was a cast iron b!tch to load.You
56 Contrails15 : Oh yes the electric wheelchair. Now I'm thankfull everyday of my life that I'm healthy but one flight we had a wheelchair, an electric one come off o
57 DTWAGENT : Ok please help me understand some things. What are Gate Checks? And which aircraft is the best to load/unload. As for the weight of bags. I can see ba
58 Contrails15 : Gate checks are anything that a customer wants to be put in the belly of the aircraft but will having waiting for them on the jetbridge when they gat
59 FlyDeltaJets : They did until they realized that saving weight was more important than saving backs. Also they began installing the IFE systems on them too The stro
60 NWAESC : Containerized: A330 Bulk loaded: A319/320
61 CALMSP : can anyone top the island hopper??? (I'm saying no they can't!!) HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM..........try keeping that seperated for the download!!!!!
62 Doona : Actually, if you look at his profile, you'll see that he's a travel agent, not a gate agent. Cheers Mats
63 AirGabon : Former AF B747-300 flight routing once weekly from CDG to PAP (Haiti) and PTP... A real nightmare, totally full flights with excess baggages and weird
64 CB97 : Which airport is it that shrink wraps the bags? Is it Abu Dhabi? I would like to meet the person that thought that one up... They are nearly impossibl
65 Katwspotter : I had 3 bags from MSP come in that way because Customs couldnt get the bags zipped up and closed again...the pax wanted me to take a damage claim but
66 AirGabon : I thought 320series were all containerized for luggage??
67 KingAir200 : Containers are common on 320s in other parts of the world, but in the US, I don't think anyone uses cans on 320s. I know NWA doesn't, and I believe U
68 NWAESC : Them and the people that decided putting Armor All on hard side bags was a good idea... Correct.
69 Contrails15 : Cheers Mats[/quote] [quote=KingAir200,reply=67]Containers are common on 320s in other parts of the world, but in the US, I don't think anyone uses can
70 B777LRF : Bah, all this is just too easy! You try loading a An-124 with 85 tons of Playstation II consoles, and not a single ULD in sight, by hand! Took the bes
71 Contrails15 : The problem is not the number of bags usually, its the time frame you have to get it loaded.
72 TW741 : Remember 2 times that have been pretty hard to load (both TW) 767-200 - all container positions with almost 11 tons of cargo except door position in f
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